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Here's hoping Tali will be a full fledged member of the squad for ME3 and not some temporary one-quest-wonder! She still in in my opinion the most important squadmate in the ME games even if you don't romance her. Can't wait to see where her story goes.

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Yay, a new Tali thread! \\0/ I want her to be a full squadmate and even better, a love interest for FemShep. Please, make it so, BioWare!

Edited by Forsythia, 13 June 2011 - 06:07 PM.


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Even if Tali is sidelined for Admiralty Board in ME3 I will still love her and support her. I mean the ENTIRE GALAXY is at stake and she has more experience then anyone so I doubt having her on infantry with Shephard will do as much good as having her be a leader for the Quarian people

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Nice. I hope we'll catch a glimpse of her supposed new outfit in the near future.

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Goddamnit Collider! I was making a Tali thread!

<---- is very angry

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Tali's already been confirmed as a full squadmate.

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But we dont know to what extent InvaderErl, it could be for 1 mission for all we know. And what I really hope is that Tali and Legion can work together for peace on both sides and unite both Geth and Quarians against Reapers at the same time.

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I hear that they will have a DLC character along the lines of Sebastion in DA2 for the collectors edition of the game. What if that was tali? I can just imagine the rage and hate that would ensue. I highly doubt that is the case though.

Yeah, what if tali is on the Admiral board? There is the chance still that she is exiled or dead, but what would she be doing otherwise besides stick with Shepard on his ship, especially those that held a romance with her. I suppose since Shepard in back in the Alliance in seems, then they would have problems with Tali on board an Alliance vessel, especially since Shepard is being tried for committing a galactic crime that could start a war between the Alliance and the Batarians, even as big as the Citadel vs the Terminus Systems.

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TheAwesomologist wrote...

Here's hoping Tali will be a full fledged member of the squad for ME3 and not some temporary one-quest-wonder! She still in in my opinion the most important squadmate in the ME games even if you don't romance her. Can't wait to see where her story goes.

Casey Hudson has already confirmed (to PC Gamer Magazine and here on Twitter) she'll be a permanent squadmember (though apparantly, Christina Norman thinks that term is not entirely appropriate).

Additionally, a pic (her suit may be a placeholder, but there's been no comments on that so far):
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Edited by Thundertactics, 13 June 2011 - 06:15 PM.


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Alanosborn1991 wrote...

But we dont know to what extent InvaderErl, it could be for 1 mission for all we know. And what I really hope is that Tali and Legion can work together for peace on both sides and unite both Geth and Quarians against Reapers at the same time.


I think it'll most likely be for more than 1 mission, otherwise i doubt bioware would have confirmed her as a full squadmate in fear of major dissapointment.

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I wonder what the default decision in ME3 for the loyalty mission will be. Will she be exiled, part of the fleet but Rael is blacklisted, part of the fleet without being blacklisted, or did the loyalty mission never happen? Probably the last one.

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Yea there are a lot of variables Bioware needs to consider for the Tali romance
-Exiled
-Dead
-Unloyal
-Relationship with Legion
-Cheating romance or not

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Hudson's PC gamer interview seemed pretty straightforward about it:

"Casey Hudson: Wrex will be… basically everyone that’s a main character is in Mass Effect 3. Everyone – every single team character in the entire series – is in Mass Effect 3, but not necessarily as a squad member. So Wrex will be there but not necessarily as a full squad member.

The squadmates we can confirm are Garrus, Liara, Ashley or Kaiden, James Vega, and the one that we can mention that we haven’t mentioned before is Tali."

Plus the Twitter

Alexthehunted
@CaseyDHudson I read an article in PC magazine about mass effect 3 and said that Tali was returning as a full time squad mate is this true

@CaseyDHudson
@Alexthehunted Yes, Tali will be back in #ME3 and you'll see a continuation of her story arc.

(emphasis mine)


Plus we had that shot of Tali disembarking from the Normandy with Garrus and Shepard it seems that its been very much confirmed at this point she's a squaddie.

Edited by InvaderErl, 13 June 2011 - 06:20 PM.


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I guess at the Main Menu of ME3 there will be a quickstart and a full fledge comic doing the decisions for your start up into ME3.

So it will be:

New Game
>Import from ME2
>Quickstart Male
>Quickstart Female
>Comic

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Collider, just one quick question, I think we all remember how the S/S discussions went a couple weeks ago in the Tali thread, is there any possibility that there can be 'please keep "I want Tali to be a S/S option" to a minimum.' line in the OP? Not saying that people can't bring it up on occasion, but not constantly keep bringing it up, and then fighting against fans who don't want it.

This also applies as a question to everyone else. You know where the S/S thread is. Can you all please keep it there? I know some of you might want her as a S/S option, but there is a lot of fans who don't.

I'm not interested in another argument or heated debate, and I know what Mr. Woo said, but there is a dedicated thread for it.

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Why not just move existing thread?

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well if Garrus is back in the squad Tali is probably back too and she is Tali'Zorah was Normandy right?

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Troodon80 wrote...

Collider, just one quick question, I think we all remember how the S/S discussions went a couple weeks ago in the Tali thread, is there any possibility that there can be 'please keep "I want Tali to be a S/S option" to a minimum.' line in the OP? Not saying that people can't bring it up on occasion, but not constantly keep bringing it up, and then fighting against fans who don't want it.

This also applies as a question to everyone else. You know where the S/S thread is. Can you all please keep it there? I know some of you might want her as a S/S option, but there is a lot of fans who don't.

I'm not interested in another argument or heated debate, and I know what Mr. Woo said, but there is a dedicated thread for it.


I agree. S/S is a very hotly debated and touchy topic (and all attempts to discuss peacefully have failed), and for the sake of this thread, should be kept to a minimum.

Edited for grammar.

Edited by The Big Bad Wolf, 13 June 2011 - 06:35 PM.


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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Troodon80 wrote...

Collider, just one quick question, I think we all remember how the S/S discussions went a couple weeks ago in the Tali thread, is there any possibility that there can be 'please keep "I want Tali to be a S/S option" to a minimum.' line in the OP? Not saying that people can't bring it up on occasion, but not constantly keep bringing it up, and then fighting against fans who don't want it.

This also applies as a question to everyone else. You know where the S/S thread is. Can you all please keep it there? I know some of you might want her as a S/S option, but there is a lot of fans who don't.

I'm not interested in another argument or heated debate, and I know what Mr. Woo said, but there is a dedicated thread for it.


I agree. S/S is a very hitly and touchy topic (and all attempts to discuss peacefully have failed), and for the sake of this thread, should be kept to a minimum.


Same, let's just make it about tali's character and try to avoid that particular topic, for the sake of the threads sanity :P

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Troodon80 wrote...

Collider, just one quick question, I think we all remember how the S/S discussions went a couple weeks ago in the Tali thread, is there any possibility that there can be 'please keep "I want Tali to be a S/S option" to a minimum.' line in the OP? Not saying that people can't bring it up on occasion, but not constantly keep bringing it up, and then fighting against fans who don't want it.

This also applies as a question to everyone else. You know where the S/S thread is. Can you all please keep it there? I know some of you might want her as a S/S option, but there is a lot of fans who don't.

I'm not interested in another argument or heated debate, and I know what Mr. Woo said, but there is a dedicated thread for it.

I second this wholeheartedly.

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Forum sig I made for the ME2 thread:
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Also: Troodon speaks truth.

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SennenScale wrote...

I wonder what the default decision in ME3 for the loyalty mission will be. Will she be exiled, part of the fleet but Rael is blacklisted, part of the fleet without being blacklisted, or did the loyalty mission never happen? Probably the last one.

I figure that the comic you use to make Shepards without importing may have the choice of what Shepard did at Tali's loyalty mission. If not...

In ME2 the default is generally Shepard just doing the
bare minimum to complete the game. So I'd guess default Shepard in ME3
has Tali exiled, but then again, her being exiled leaves a reference
that new players would either not "get" or would need to be told about,
which is extra work.

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Troodon80 wrote...

Collider, just one quick question, I think we all remember how the S/S discussions went a couple weeks ago in the Tali thread, is there any possibility that there can be 'please keep "I want Tali to be a S/S option" to a minimum.' line in the OP? Not saying that people can't bring it up on occasion, but not constantly keep bringing it up, and then fighting against fans who don't want it.

This also applies as a question to everyone else. You know where the S/S thread is. Can you all please keep it there? I know some of you might want her as a S/S option, but there is a lot of fans who don't.

I'm not interested in another argument or heated debate, and I know what Mr. Woo said, but there is a dedicated thread for it.


Hmmm... This seems a reasonable request, everyone has the right to his/her opinions but the debates had basically hijacked the thread back then, several attempt at discussing other things were ignored as that topic was constantly picked up again...

I don't know whether it should actually be put in the OP as a rule, it would be enough as an advice for the posters to show a bit of restraint, as to avoid escalations that could have repercussions for the whole thread...

They can post their opinion, but the debates go in the other thread, or something like that...

Mesina2 wrote...

Why not just move existing thread?


Everyone can do that!? I thought only the mods could move threads...Posted Image
If that's the case and they didn't I guess they thought we would simply create a new one...

I'm more curious about what will happen to the original Tali'Zorah Thread though...
I hope it won't end up dying on us... :(

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@Pride Demon: Matter's been settled already (check OP).