So, after that codex about the descendants of Andraste...

Anyone else get the feeling that Leliana is one of them?

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Look up any Temple of Mythal quest. It is Solas' personal quest. I saw it over an LP on Twitch but forgot which channel.

Damn...

Is there any way you could point me to a good one?

I just watched the last Solas romance scene and I am laughing my ass off !

 

I am pro-Elven because I like the Theodosian elves but I was never pro-Dalish. After watching that scene with Solas I am so glad that I am pro-Elven or for The People but no pro-Dalish. 

 

I just want to see the look on the pro-Dalish after they hear that bombshell of a revelation..well two bombshell revelations...I am going to wait  for Lobsel and Xil to burst into righteous anger...

 

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One bombshell comes from Solas and that is Vallaslin is the marking of slaves. Since we know Elven gods to be powerful beings as opposed to actual gods, that would mean that a specific Vallaslin is the marking of a slave in service to a particular powerful being regarded as Elven god.

 

The second bombshell comes from Abelas who said that it was not Tevinter who destroyed Elvhenan or Arlathan. Which then implies that Elvhenan or Arlathan must have been destroyed by the Elven slaves who now call themselves Dalish Elves, most probably with the help of ancient Tevinter.

 

Hahahahahaha....! This is why you should never be pro-any group. Pro-people, sure, but pro-group ? It never ends well.

 

I gotta say about the OGB

 

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I might be completely biased but i love his name 

I must agree...

Now, why don't we all start guessing where the story will be going next?

Quality spoilers right here!

I wouldnt say it was Fen'Harel that was behind everything but Mythal...It seems Fen'Harel was only awakened recently since he couldnt stop Cory from taking the orb

Didn't he say that he gave Cory the orb?

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 I wouldn't even send him to the Wardens. He'd just run again. No Blackwall-mance for me then.   

Found a huge spoiler here.

Enjoy!

Or don't.

I'll just say that this doesn't prove anyone is a god. The elves don't seem to know what their worshiping.

Now I'm wondering...

See, Elves seem to reproduce at a rather normal rate, and they were once immortal supposedly. I wonder if they just did the Flemeth thing and bodyhop to their descendants, and so avert the excessive overpopulation ordinary immortality would have?

Well he didn't seem to be quite as the Dalish described him (other than being a trickster). Generally religion is based on stories some of which are true and some aren't. Lets not forget that we found Andraste's Ashes in Origins and they did work, that doesn't prove the Chantry correct but it does show that there is some truth to those tales. 

Yep.

Apparently the Ashes mysteriously disappeared and Leliana miraculously comes back to life if you killed her there, and even acknowledges that.

Well we already knew the old gods existed in some form because if they didn't there wouldn't be blights. Fan'Harel seems to be confirmed now but that doesn't prove the Dalish religion true. 

I think it proves quite a lot of it to be true. Remember, the Elven Gods aren't credited with creating the world.

Also, who else is thinking that Flemeth is Mythal?

So wait...

Both Fen'Harel and the Old Gods exist?

So that's every religion confirmed besides the Chantry?

Well, unless you count Leliana telling you how sure she was that she died, and how she was miraculously ressurected if you killed her as confirmation of the Maker.

God damn did I just see the most interesting spoilers for Solas.

Have fun guys!

This game looks more and more promising. Looks like Christmas is coming to Redcliffe. But it will be magister blood that will paint the land red.

 

Ho ho ho!

 

After I'm done saving our beloved Redcliffe, maybe I can convince Connor to become an Arcane Warrior and join up.

Well, I'm glad I spared Connor.

He understands the dangers of being a Mage better than most.

Any other interesting preloaded file info that you can share...

 

Either PM me or send it to this group... http://forum.bioware...at-one-spoiler/

Right now all I can do is confirm that the little strings of Blackwall data aren't falsified.

I will look for other characters later. I must sleep.

Well, ****.

Funny thing is that I called this before anyone even looked in the files.

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Did you find the prison line? That one was most intriguing to me.

Both real.

The Blackwall-related ones. Or at least those were the first posted on this site. 

Oh, speaking of which I just checked my own preloaded files with notepad to confirm a few of the Blackwall lines.

In short, they're real.

4chan. That's where all the file names have been coming from. I think it's a pretty safe bet that we're being trolled.

 

Not only that, but I'm pretty sure the "blackwall isn't a real grey warden" theory started there as well.

Sorry, I checked the files myself.

It is the same person. Blackwall is clever and pragmatic person not Knight in the shining armor.

Then he is still lying about being in Ferelden fighting Darkspawn.

I can't really imagine them making it so everything they said about the guy pre-release was a blatant lie. Which wasn't much, admittedly, but plot twists would feel kinda cheap that way. I mean, at least they've dropped hints for Vivienne's supposed 'hidden agenda' to not make it so the plot twist is only there because you were completely misled before release. 

I don't think everything was a blatant lie, but Grey Wardens just aren't these idealistic heroic figures of legend. We learned that lesson in Origins.

Blackwall isn't so much acting like a real Grey Warden as he is behaving more as a Fairy Tale, and that's basically how he's been described. The perfect Warden of a children's story. The thing is, Fairy Tales aren't real.

The Blackwall from World of Thedas was certainly not this noble heroic figure the Inquisition Blackwall seems to be. That Blackwall decided Ferelden was a lost cause and never went there, while this Blackwall claims he was fighting Darkspawn in Ferelden all along but curiously never showed up where a Warden would be most needed and where a proper Warden would know he was needed.

Wasn't there something about a 

 

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Griffin-themed children's rocking chair being an important part of Blackwall's storyline?

 

 

It would be a fairly interesting plotline to find out that this competent, honorable guy is actually just someone who always strived to be a Warden since he was a child, but was never able to get there. 

I don't think he's just an honorable, competent guy. He's far too good of a liar for that. It takes OOC knowledge to catch him in his lies, or even realize that certain things he says just don't add up.

He may have had some childhood desire to be a Grey Warden, or he may have some other reason he decided to take on the act of the ideal heroic Grey Warden, but I think much of his background was probably of the illegal nature. The way he reacts when you point out that many Wardens used to be criminals just makes me feel that way.

He may be honorable now, but evidence points to that not always having been the case.

If he's the real Blackwall, then he's the same guy who was content to wait while Ferelden fell. If he's an impostor, then he's an expert liar who knows the basics of how to do identity theft and get away with it.

Or they could have just retconned that piece of letter lore that they probably forgot about/didn't think we would find and analyze and just used the same name and changed the history of the character? I'm not saying the theory is wrong, but taking that old letter as law instead of what we've gotten so far from the game itself seems pretty rush. It would be interesting though. And I wouldn't mind Blackwall not dying from the taint

Maybe it was reconned, but the two are so different that they're basically opposites.

Either Blackwall is a lying coward or he's a lying impostor.

Well, apparently, there's also 

 

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Stroud.

 

And, potentially

 

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Loghain.

 

 

 

 

It's an interesting though, but I'm skeptical. We'll see, I guess. :S

Oh, I know those two are still existent, but I do wonder if they might be outside of the area in which the Wardens disappeared whereas Blackwall was not.

Whatever the case, the Blackwall in WoT is a very different Blackwall from the one that Blackwall claims to be.