Well they didn't go with your examples. Most likely they went with the missing hand to visibly show it, or serve some plot point we don't know of yet. I use the Luke Skywalker example where he lost his hand and yet a few minutes later he got a new robotic one, yet the loss of his actual hand still served the story multiple times. 

Wouldn't lying about that and later that being the case cause more controversy, not less? That was certainly the case with the Mass Effect 3 ending. 

I didn't. You said they can't be the protagonist(what I meant when I said hero), and are saying it is because they are handicapped that Bioware won't and shouldn't have them be the one in DA4, so you are saying that handicapped people can't or shouldn't be protagonists. 

Can you honestly say that advertising the game with the protagonist being a hand short is a great way to sell an RPG?

So you've never heard someone tell a lie, and then someone say "you liar"? 

Yes, I have heard that. I've also heard people call others a "bastard", even though their parents were married before they were even concieved. Language is fickle. Spoken word and written word don't always align. Their meanings can change to suit a situation.

Anyway, this has strayed from the point. Even though this topic has been beaten to death on more than one occasion, going into this is not needed here.

Uh, the definitive of liar is a person who tells a lie.  I'm not twisting anything.

A person who tells lies.

It just seems so strange to me to buy the games off developers that you think are a bunch of liars. 

Um, I don't consider them liars. I consider what he said to be a lie, but that does not make him a liar. I tell a lie once in a while, when it's needed, but I don't think of myself as a liar. I actually think of myself as a very honest person.

Why must people twist words and read between the lines?

As I've said before, if the reason they removed the hand is to make the Inquisitor not playable because handicapped people can't be heroes then I am quitting my support of Bioware because that is a disgusting mindset. Luckily that doesn't seem to be the case since Patrick Weekes when asked stated that they did not remove the hand to make the Inquisitor no longer playable, saying there are plenty of amputee heroes. He said it was to show that the Inquisitor's days of sealing Rifts was done.

And in my examples, the Inquisitors days of sealing rifts would still have been done, and he or she would have still had a hand.

I don't believe a word of what Weekes said there. It was clearly so that the Inquisitor wouldn't be coming back as the playable character. He just wants to cover their backsides from any more controversy.

And no. Just because the Inquisitor isn't going to be playable does not stop the Inquisitor from being a hero. Just a hero you have limited control over. Don't twist my words.

Isabela. Her hip swaying was just... mesmerizing.

Nothing...sinister.

...

*eats a doughnut*

You better eat those!

Why? What's in them...?

*takes doughnuts*
Definitely a rule.

*steals the doughnuts and runs away*

The Inquisitor lost their left hand. That was the hand that held a shield. And making a prosthetic that swivels for sword work like with the Dual Wield or Two-Hand play styles isn't hard to imagine at all when the world has been shown to be able to have a prosthetic limb intricate enough to work as a grappling hook. 

 

Not really. Like all characters The Iron Bull went through various changes in design.

 

How would it defy logic? Again, real history has done it, and real history doesn't have Dwarves, Qunari, or magic. There is everything needed in Dragon Age for it to be a thing, and even is a thing in cases, so no it wouldn't defy logic.

Why did they, the BioWare writers, decide to cut off the hand? And don't say "because it's supposed to be tragic" - bollocks! That scene was not tragic in any way, shape or form, and if it was, it wasn't for that reason.

The writers could have simply removed the mark without having to remove the hand itself.

The writers could have made it so the mark just disappeared after a period once the breach had closed.

The writers could have written any number of different ways that could have played out, many of which would have led credibility to the Inquisitor returning as a protagonist in the next game.

But they chose the one that had the hand get cut off. What does that tell you all?

It's quite likely the Inquisitor isn't coming back (playable anyway, I imagine they will be back in some way considering the lead writer said he wanted to give them more closure which is kinda hard to do if they're not there), but that doesn't mean it's because of the hand. 

 

You really think it's likely that the concept artists wasted time drawing up designs that would be impossible to implement? You think they just forgot for several days that there was a battle system the character would have to be animated for? If the design was unrealistic to implement in the game, it wouldn't have got that far. The fact that they went with a different design in the end just means they preferred that design. Not to mention the fact that the devs have specifically said the loss of a hand wouldn't be a reason not to have them as the protagonist.

 

The idea that the loss of a hand is impossible to implement relies on both -

 

1 - the concept artists having no idea about their job and just sitting around wasting days drawing up impossible designs rather than anything realistic

2 - the devs being outright liars

 

And that doesn't even get into the fact that we have seen golems (aka, fully working constructed limbs) and a person regrow their entire arm after losing it.

Hundreds, thousands of ideas get thought up. Dozens get drawn up. Only one is 'right'. Ideas are not set in stone. Ideas allow for more ideas to flourish, but that doesn't mean that the original idea had to absolutely work. No. The idea just has to be interesting enough to the artist, in order for it to be drawn up, because hey 'why not?'.

In the case of never seeing home again the Quarians would be no different than anyone else on the ship.

 

If the Arks leave during ME3 than a small percentage of the troops are going into stasis already indoctrinated. The question is what happens to them after the Reapers are dealt with. Are they permanently damaged mentally? Do they stand around drooling on themselves?

 

Now the writers may completely disregard this as they don't want to touch the ending consequences yet, if ever.

Actually, that could be interesting to see. The Quarians being the only ones who aren't leaving behind a planet. Not the drooling bit.

The Quarians are going to be the only ones on the Ark ships to understand what it's like to leave behind your home, your planet. I would expect Quarians to have critical roles within counselling to the other races. They could help them come to grips with their new reality.

It could be an interesting thing to see. Quarians being, just their usual selves whilst everyone else is uncomfortable and home sick.

And now that I think of it. Who are better engineers than the Quarians? They'd be invaluable to the expedition. If anything goes wrong with the ships, the Quarians will know what to do to fix it.

I want to see the Quarians. I want to see all of the races return.

Unfortunately, what I want is of no concern.

There is only so much that can be put into a game. Even now, at the pinnacle of gaming, there are still limits.

Understandably, some of the races from the trilogy will be left behind. I expect Volus, Elcor, Hanar and Batarians are definitely on the cutting mat. Quarians on the other hand. We saw enough of the Quarians in the trilogy. Enough that they became an established race, along with the Turians, Asari, Salarians and Krogan.

We know the Krogan, Asari and Salarians are with us on the journey to Andromeda. Three of the four Council races are on that journey. It's not a far stretch to think that the Turians, the final Council race, will also be with us.

Now the case with the Krogan.

What exactly makes the Krogan so worthwhile in bringing them to Andromeda? They don't really have spaceflight potential, instead relying on the other races. They're good in a fight but then, so are Humans and Turians. Why the Krogan?

There is no real reason why. None that we know of anyway.

However. The Krogan are one of the first images people will think of when they think of Mass Effect. Correct? Do you deny this?

The Krogan got the same amount of content within the three games as the Quarians did. Both races are on equal footing in terms of which had more of a role to play in the trilogy.

Going by that basis, I would expect the Quarians to also be in on the journey to Andromeda.

This would also bring a total of six races on the journey. Six is a nice number.

Ooooh! Voltobal! Didn't even see one yet. And I love that Paras just chilling in the store between all the drinks. It would make a good DQ member. (Also give me that lemon soda! )

Amazing things happened yesterday. I hatched quite a lot of eggs already but always got stuff like Taubsi, Rattfratz, Raupy etc out of it, which is obviously not all that exciting. BUT:

Spoiler

  I gave this one already 1x Bonbon, it was at 301 when it hatched. 10km egg.

5km egg!

My new children are so pretty!

Who or what are you having sex with to produce such children?!

More names need to be added.

I am aware that a few people here haven't posted their name by which people can find them. Doing so would open up more opportunities for grouping up on more platforms.

However, SmilesJA, I would be willing to play some games with you. I'd prefer if we could try quick play for a bit first thought. I want to experience what it's like to work together, before risking our ranks. A bad group can be just as bad as pairing up with strangers.

Except mere prosthetics have functioned properly in battle in our own history, like with Gotz of the Iron Hand. And at the time we didn't have the engineering know how of the Dwarves and Qunari as well as of course magic. 

That hand of his didn't function as a normal hand though. Sure, it could hold things like a shield or pen, a fixed position, but it couldn't move with the fluidity sword work requires.

And with the case of Iron Bull. Have you ever wondered why they didn't give him a prosthetic? Because, by what is being said, they wouldn't have had to change anything. All it would have required was an aesthetic change. A different design in his appearance. Not difficult to do.

No, they didn't give Iron Bull a prosthetic because it is a ridiculous idea that would defy logic.

Accept that the Inquisitor isn't coming back as a playable character. Accept it and move on.

That would be my own fault, though I suspect you may have drawn the lightning

Love being associated to such a thing.

It's free on PC too.

Maybe PS4 too then.

Life is Strange: Episode 1 is free right now on Xbox One. If anyone hasn't played it yet and has an Xbox One, now's the time to give it a go.

I did say "beneath their armour and clothing", right?

Yes, I believe I did.

If it wasn't clear, I meant aliens that are... civilised. Turians, Krogan, Drell, Quarians, et cetera. Not Thresher Maws, or Klixen, or Reapers.

Are you buying Toblerone?

*ears perk up*

Toblerone! Give me that toblerone!

*steals all the toblerone - except for the dark chocolate*

Another one of these threads...

Look, the Inquisitor is not coming back as the playable character. If you don't believe that, you are clearly in denial and you need to seek some kind of help in understanding what exactly happened and why.

I dunno, they have numbers as low as 1%. Surely, DAI's completion rate can't be that bad.

What other reason could there be for it to not be included?

Why no DAI listed, but Witcher 3? That's newer, isn't it?

Because the number is so low that it would be pointless to add it to the rest of the data.

That's the only reason I can think of for it not being on there.

Dark Souls 3 is also newer and that's on there.

Well, would you look at that? The Witcher has lower completion rates than Bioware games!

 

I now have objective proof to support my belief that Bioware kicks CDPR's ass! 

 

That's right. I said it. 

 

Ah, that's just because people are stilling playing through the huge, 'more than BioWare will ever put in a game' amount of content.