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[Cascadus]

It was a hell of a lot more durable than the Hammerhead.

[Jarcander]

With a quick use of search function I found 51 Hammerhead threads in this forum section alone. They do seem to drop out of page 1 relatively quickly. At any rate, I'm done defending my smooth-rider. Trying to argue about it is like talking to a wall.

[DoNotResistHate]

Jarcander wrote...

With a quick use of search function I found 51 Hammerhead threads in this forum section alone. They do seem to drop out of page 1 relatively quickly. At any rate, I'm done defending my smooth-rider. Trying to argue about it is like talking to a wall.

All the ones I found were over a month old when I searched( and I did). Maybe the search function was glitching though cause I ran it again and this thread didn't even pop up.

Modifié par DoNotResistHate, 27 mars 2010 - 02:57 .

[DoNotResistHate]

huh apparently if you don't specify a specific mass effect forum and try to just search all ME forums it returns really old results.

edit: ah I see the oldest results are always at the top and the new  results at the bottom that seems counterintuitive is there a "sort" setting I can change or is that just how it is?

Modifié par DoNotResistHate, 27 mars 2010 - 03:12 .

[DRACO1130]

WOW! I seem to be the only one who was thinking in 3 dimensions - there is a MASSIVE mistake in the hammerhead implementation - the Geth cannot shoot UP - I hit the E key and went UP - at top of arc i had about 3 seconds - rapid fire missiles(which never run out) and blow geth to bits - they never fire back -

I posted my own lengthy assessment of hammer and firewalker which I won't re write here but my conclusion stands - SUCKY!

[BrutalWolfs]

Yea, I dident think it that great. It was cool but it seemed like it was... I dont know, just there.

[DoNotResistHate]

I noticed that jumping up and landing on enemies(mario style) is pretty much an insta-kill but playing that aggressively in the Hammerhead will sometimes end badly.

Modifié par DoNotResistHate, 27 mars 2010 - 03:15 .

[Big Yam]

Hammerhead is a tacked on mini game. I wish it augmented the existing combat model instead of adding something unrelated.

[Karstedt]

DoNotResistHate wrote...

 4. The hold the "y" button down mini game was almost as lame as planet scanning.   I mean seriously BW if you can't stop making lame mini-games then how about just eliminating mini-games altogether.   The 2 hacking mini-games that I liked at first even started to suck after 3+ play throughs.   Planet scanning sucked on play through number one for me and the hold the "Y" button mini-game started sucking after I completed the first level with the hammerhead and realized shortly after starting hammerhead lvl 2 that I was in for more "Y" button mini game.  Which is to say it wasn't bad until you put it in every hammerhead lvl. 

What I liked about the lockpicking mini-game in ME1, was haw friggin fast it was. Even on my 10th playthrough, it didn't really get irritating because it took all of 3 seconds. Plus you could always bypass it with omni-gel.  The hacking and bypass in ME2 are definitely better mini-games... but definitely get old fast.

The Hammerhead "mining", I knew was crap the very second I figured out what the heck I was supposed to do on the 'waypoints'. Us PC users got wrong control info, so it took me a while to figure out I had to hold down the stupid mining button. It lasted about 5 seconds too long to be anything but annoying. Now that I mention that, I'm gonna have to dig into the ini and see If I can change that.

Seriously if your game testers  can't see something as obvious as needing save points get new game testers if your not listening to your game testers then do us all a favor and demote yourself to janitor and stay far away from the other devs.  

I have no idea what the deal is with testers. Do they just suck? This seem to be getting more and more common. I've applied for various testing jobs before and they certainly don't want a thorough and critical eye such as mine (or maybe it's because I don't wear slacks, because slacks are a key component to job performance). So I'm assuming they hire a bunch of those people who post stuff on the forum like, "Bioware iz teh best ever! Duz no wrong! Even the bad stuf iz good!".
Actually that's a bit cynical, as DA didn't have as many blantently ignored gameplay hinderances. It might not be the testers fault though, they may have just ignored them.

[DoNotResistHate]

Karstedt wrote...

DoNotResistHate wrote...

 4. The hold the "y" button down mini game was almost as lame as planet scanning.   I mean seriously BW if you can't stop making lame mini-games then how about just eliminating mini-games altogether.   The 2 hacking mini-games that I liked at first even started to suck after 3+ play throughs.   Planet scanning sucked on play through number one for me and the hold the "Y" button mini-game started sucking after I completed the first level with the hammerhead and realized shortly after starting hammerhead lvl 2 that I was in for more "Y" button mini game.  Which is to say it wasn't bad until you put it in every hammerhead lvl. 

What I liked about the lockpicking mini-game in ME1, was haw friggin fast it was. Even on my 10th playthrough, it didn't really get irritating because it took all of 3 seconds. Plus you could always bypass it with omni-gel.  The hacking and bypass in ME2 are definitely better mini-games... but definitely get old fast.

The Hammerhead "mining", I knew was crap the very second I figured out what the heck I was supposed to do on the 'waypoints'. Us PC users got wrong control info, so it took me a while to figure out I had to hold down the stupid mining button. It lasted about 5 seconds too long to be anything but annoying. Now that I mention that, I'm gonna have to dig into the ini and see If I can change that.

Seriously if your game testers  can't see something as obvious as needing save points get new game testers if your not listening to your game testers then do us all a favor and demote yourself to janitor and stay far away from the other devs.  

I have no idea what the deal is with testers. Do they just suck? This seem to be getting more and more common. I've applied for various testing jobs before and they certainly don't want a thorough and critical eye such as mine (or maybe it's because I don't wear slacks, because slacks are a key component to job performance). So I'm assuming they hire a bunch of those people who post stuff on the forum like, "Bioware iz teh best ever! Duz no wrong! Even the bad stuf iz good!".
Actually that's a bit cynical, as DA didn't have as many blantently ignored gameplay hinderances. It might not be the testers fault though, they may have just ignored them.

Ya some of the stuff that got through just boggles the mind.  I mean didn't anybody say "hold on a second this whole mining mini-game gets old fast" or maybe "hey Casey this planet scanning mini game is really not that much fun for something so critical to the game maybe we should change it up." I mean someone must have known these things.  I am sure they played through the game plenty of times while debugging it.    I can almost guarantee someone told them about it and they ignored them. 

Modifié par DoNotResistHate, 27 mars 2010 - 04:46 .

[Zulu_DFA]

DoNotResistHate wrote...

 Driving it seemed fun maybe even more so than the Mako(which I liked).  However combat in it seemed extremely lame.  There was no way to zoom your gun in for precise aiming(unless I missed something).    So every battle constituted aiming the gun in the general direction of your enemy and holding the trigger down until the enemy was blown up.  

1.  The auto aiming on it was terrible even with the seeking ability the damn things still seemed liked the missed half the time.

2.  The main gun was way too week.   Should have been more on par with the main gun on the Mako IMHO

3. No save points are you kidding me did BW forget how to make polished games sometime between ME1 and ME2.  I mean really no save points for the whole mission = seriously sucky game game play experience.     First of all every time a make a mistake I get punished bad by having to start the whole damn level over.   This limits your ability to use the hammerhead aggressively in battle since it pays more just to hang back and play it safe.    2 it limits your ability to really see what the hammerhead can do since you can't really goof around in it with out risking a restart of the level. I'll never forget the first time I died in the hammerhead had finished the level and was screwing around and I got my hammerhead hung up on some ruble so I couldn't get out of the acid. Man was I pissed when I realized I had to start the level over.

4. The hold the "y" button down mini game was almost as lame as planet scanning.   I mean seriously BW if you can't stop making lame mini-games then how about just eliminating mini-games altogether.   The 2 hacking mini-games that I liked at first even started to suck after 3+ play throughs.   Planet scanning sucked on play through number one for me and the hold the "Y" button mini-game started sucking after I completed the first level with the hammerhead and realized shortly after starting hammerhead lvl 2 that I was in for more "Y" button mini game.  Which is to say it wasn't bad until you put it in every hammerhead lvl.  

Seriously if your game testers  can't see something as obvious as needing save points get new game testers if your not listening to your game testers then do us all a favor and demote yourself to janitor and stay far away from the other devs.   

Those are just my thoughts though what do you guys think?

Yes.

Hammerhead also sucks from the sci-fi PoV. It wouldnt' be able to hover and propell itself with those turbines in no air environment. However, there was one "moon" level where it worked just fine... But on the other hand we know that high heels on the batttlefield and bare skin in UV-irradiated zero-K vacuum are not issues in ME universe...

However, cold wind can harm the Hammerhead's engines! And it can be destroyed in a couple of seconds by small arms fire! What sort if IFV is it?

Overall: Project Firewalker yet again reminded me of the blessed Super Mario gameplay. I even cried a little. First time since the Biotic God thread got locked down.

[Cascadus]

Actually, ME1 did address the fact that everyone wore hardsuits and made a lot of sense within context of the universe, because if you didn't wear that hardsuit, you'd up and die pretty quick in EVA environments.

That was changed for reasons inexplicable.

[Throw_this_away]

OP... I thought the HH was fun to drive and the levels were beautiful. I think it was a good teaser for what is possible with the HH. I look forward to future (paid) DLC that will use the HH to it's full potential and integrate the HH and squad combat in missions.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Cascadus wrote...

Actually, ME1 did address the fact that everyone wore hardsuits and made a lot of sense within context of the universe, because if you didn't wear that hardsuit, you'd up and die pretty quick in EVA environments.
That was changed for reasons inexplicable.

I hate this change <_<

[KhanQuest 419]

Shandepared wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

The Hammerhead appears to be armoured by paper mache. Say what you will about the Mako (though I absolutely and entirely loved it), but you could run straight into enemy fire, tackle a Colossus and get a few troops along the way and come out Gangbusters

The Mako had terrible armor... what it had was shields. One those were gone though a couple hits would kill you. I remember my first death in the mako happened when a thresher maw came up out of nowhere right next to me and insta-killed me. At the very least it was one hell of an introduction to thresher maws.

lolololol samething happened to me.....well i tried to run the thresher maw over

[DoNotResistHate]

Throw_this_away wrote...

OP... I thought the HH was fun to drive and the levels were beautiful. I think it was a good teaser for what is possible with the HH. I look forward to future (paid) DLC that will use the HH to it's full potential and integrate the HH and squad combat in missions.

I thought it was fun to "drive" as well and also thought the levels looked good.   It was the other stuff I mentioned that I didn't like.  

Ya I agree any sort of turbine based engines will  obviously not work in a situation where there is no atmosphere and the lack of realistic armor and hard suits for many of your companions is laughable.   They really need to work on quality control.  I appreciate that they are making an honest effort it's just that they need to figure out how to turn the effort into quality.  Is it that they are not being given enough time either by  EA or someone at Bioware? it is quite possible.  I personally would rather have quality over quantity.  I mean sure it took ages for BW to come out with the" bring down the sky" mission.  But it was probably the best side mission in the game IMHO.

Modifié par DoNotResistHate, 27 mars 2010 - 05:34 .

[DoNotResistHate]

KhanQuest 419 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

The Hammerhead appears to be armoured by paper mache. Say what you will about the Mako (though I absolutely and entirely loved it), but you could run straight into enemy fire, tackle a Colossus and get a few troops along the way and come out Gangbusters

The Mako had terrible armor... what it had was shields. One those were gone though a couple hits would kill you. I remember my first death in the mako happened when a thresher maw came up out of nowhere right next to me and insta-killed me. At the very least it was one hell of an introduction to thresher maws.

lolololol samething happened to me.....well i tried to run the thresher maw over

ROFL,  I think we all probably tried it.  Ya running over the thresher maw, not an effective strategy.

Modifié par DoNotResistHate, 27 mars 2010 - 05:30 .

[Zulu_DFA]

DoNotResistHate wrote...

KhanQuest 419 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

The Hammerhead appears to be armoured by paper mache. Say what you will about the Mako (though I absolutely and entirely loved it), but you could run straight into enemy fire, tackle a Colossus and get a few troops along the way and come out Gangbusters

The Mako had terrible armor... what it had was shields. One those were gone though a couple hits would kill you. I remember my first death in the mako happened when a thresher maw came up out of nowhere right next to me and insta-killed me. At the very least it was one hell of an introduction to thresher maws.

lolololol samething happened to me.....well i tried to run the thresher maw over

ROFL,  I think we all probably tried it.  Ya running over the thresher maw, not an effective strategy.

It worked with the Colossi though.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

DoNotResistHate wrote...

KhanQuest 419 wrote...

Shandepared wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

The Hammerhead appears to be armoured by paper mache. Say what you will about the Mako (though I absolutely and entirely loved it), but you could run straight into enemy fire, tackle a Colossus and get a few troops along the way and come out Gangbusters

The Mako had terrible armor... what it had was shields. One those were gone though a couple hits would kill you. I remember my first death in the mako happened when a thresher maw came up out of nowhere right next to me and insta-killed me. At the very least it was one hell of an introduction to thresher maws.

lolololol samething happened to me.....well i tried to run the thresher maw over

ROFL,  I think we all probably tried it.  Ya running over the thresher maw, not an effective strategy.

It worked with the Colossi though.

This is true, this is quite effective against them actually.

You do get caught on them for a second though.

[Zulu_DFA]

Geth infantry was fun to smash against walls, occasionally.

[Zulu_DFA]

Well, if Hammerhead is actually a BioWare's test project for the Alliance Spacefighter... it's going to be all right. As long as we won't need to worry about falling into a lava pool, like it happened to me with the Hammerhead a few times, because with that camera I couldn't see what's underneath the vehicle. And, also, the number of missiles (torpedoes) on the spacefighter should be strictly limited and missions should feature few destructible enemies and 1-2 targets to hit as the mission objective, rather then score of easy-to-hit with infinite ammo enemies.

For the record, I walked through the Project Firewalker, but it's not going to make it into for ME3 import, because of the said un-sci-fi-ish-ness of the Hammerhead and the ridiculousness of the plot of the missions.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 27 mars 2010 - 06:18 .

[KotOREffecT]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

For the record, I walked through the Project Firewalker, but it's not going to make it into for ME3 import, because of the said un-sci-fi-ish-ness of the Hammerhead and the ridiculousness of the plot of the missions.

I wouldn't be so sure about the Hammerhead itself. It's obvious that this was just the beta stages for it. The Hammerhead itself is very smooth and a blast to control, it just needs better sheilding and more weapons. I def see it being in ME 3, esp since most of the reviews around the net have been positive on it and a lot of people really do like the control, just not the very short missions and how the HH blows up easily. But in general, the attention to detail in the mission worlds were actually very good, esp that Mustafar like lava world. Imagine more open worlds or larger like worlds in ME 3 with off foot combat and dialogue/choice making in the missions.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see this expanded on in ME 3, it would greatly enrich the ME universe I think.

[Kronner]

Hammerhead is incredibly stupid "addon". Feels too consolish to me. It is free, but it still sucks. Auto targeting rockets, no armor/health bar, instead we get infinite health because it auto-regenerates.

For ME3, they are probably make the Big White Shark and you will control it with only left-mouse button - it will feature automatic pathfinding, auto-targeting and auto-regenerating. Intense ****. Yay!

[KotOREffecT]

Kronner wrote...

Hammerhead is incredibly stupid "addon". Feels too consolish to me. It is free, but it still sucks.

In your opinion of course.

Kronner wrote...

For ME3, they are probably make the Big White Shark and you will control it with only left-mouse button - it will feature automatic pathfinding, auto-targeting and auto-regenerating. Intense ****. Yay!

God no.