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[mxfox408]

Bioware should have gone with another publisher that doesnt force its n@ z1 policies onto the devloper. EA grown to big for its bridges and is forcing thier idiotic drm onto thier cream of thier crop if it wasnt for the developers the making quality products the cunsumers buy the publishers would be broke and sol.

Modifié par mxfox408, 30 mars 2010 - 05:44 .

[Goth Skunk]

I will never PC game again as long as DRM exists.

[LostInSanity]

Because I originally downloaded some of the DLC on my brothers 360, I have to be online if I want to use any of it right now... and let me tell you, it sucks. I would still buy it in any case because I love the series, but I wouldnt like it.

[Titan98RG]

Goth Skunk wrote...

I will never PC game again as long as DRM exists.

i think this depends on what kind of DRM a bit.

[Dokarqt]

If they implement that ridiculous "internet connection active at all times and if it breaks you get booted from the game" thing im probably not getting ME3 no matter how much im looking forward to it.



Getting an illegal copy seem more likely if so, if it will circumvent the anal net connection checking. Even if I hate downloading games illegaly.

[Dreadz666]

If a singleplayer game requires a constant internet connection I will not buy it.Ever.

[darkshadow136]

DRM will ruin PC gaming.

[Darth_Trethon]

I hate to break it to you but games on PC are mostly unplayable anyway regardless of DRM though I can see how it adds insult to injury. At any rate I only purchase games on playable platforms and ME3 will deffinitely be out on at least one playable platform. Nuff said.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 30 mars 2010 - 06:08 .

[Eurypterid]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I hate to break it to you but games on PC are mostly unplayable anyway regardless of DRM *snip*

My 40+ installed and working PC games, along with another 2 dozen+ that I haven't got currently installed would tend to disagree with you.

[darkshadow136]

Eurypterid wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I hate to break it to you but games on PC are mostly unplayable anyway regardless of DRM *snip*

My 40+ installed and working PC games, along with another 2 dozen+ that I haven't got currently installed would tend to disagree with you.

Yep Eury I agree I have many games installed on my PC as well, and they all work great DRM's are the onely thing that can screw that up. Plus The game I have like DAO, Batman Arkham Asylum, Oblivion and more that are also on console not only can I do more with my games of those then console players can, but my graphics blow the console versions out of the water.

Consoles are great for peeps that can get a high end PC, and for some game consoles can be better. But on an overall  for RPG's and games like ME1/ME2, and other I mentioned Pc's can't be beat.

[Daeion]

darkshadow136 wrote...

DRM will ruin PC gaming.

No, the pirating of PC games, thus forcing companies to try and impliment various DRMs will ruin PC gaming.

[Daeion]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

I hate to break it to you but games on PC are mostly unplayable anyway regardless of DRM though I can see how it adds insult to injury. At any rate I only purchase games on playable platforms and ME3 will deffinitely be out on at least one playable platform. Nuff said.

Lol, really?  PC games are mostly unplayable?  That's weird because most games are better on the PC because of the freedom a mouse and keyboard allows when compared to a console system.  Now if you are saying they are unplayable because your system can't handle them, then get a new system or be quiet.

[Daeion]

mispelinsuks wrote...

I will not ever purchase any game from any company that uses any form of anti piracy that hurts the honest people buying the game. I for one am glad to see some people standing up against some of these issues . To many people in this day and age do and say nothing...and thats just like giving these companys a free pass to do what they want.

Yes, lets stand up against the people who want to get paid for their work instead of the peaple stealing the work.

[darkshadow136]

Daeion wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

DRM will ruin PC gaming.

No, the pirating of PC games, thus forcing companies to try and impliment various DRMs will ruin PC gaming.

Both are wrong. AC2 should be a ey opener for game companies that DRM's of that type will ruin their sales for PC. When a offline game is dependant on internet connection or the companies servers working properly it is a plan that will end in disaster. Like I've said before if you make the games so they need to be registered to be able to download patches or additional content, or even on the extreme make it so it needs to be registered in order to play the game. That would be a solution I could live with.

But in the case of AC2 their DRM stopped me from purchasingthe game because of the reviews of it.

[nammafia]

I will not buy any single player game, including missing out the finale to the ME trilogy, with always on internet connection DRM. There are plenty of good games out there to try.

[Daeion]

darkshadow136 wrote...

Daeion wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

DRM will ruin PC gaming.

No, the pirating of PC games, thus forcing companies to try and impliment various DRMs will ruin PC gaming.

Both are wrong. AC2 should be a ey opener for game companies that DRM's of that type will ruin their sales for PC. When a offline game is dependant on internet connection or the companies servers working properly it is a plan that will end in disaster. Like I've said before if you make the games so they need to be registered to be able to download patches or additional content, or even on the extreme make it so it needs to be registered in order to play the game. That would be a solution I could live with.

But in the case of AC2 their DRM stopped me from purchasingthe game because of the reviews of it.

Oh I agree that it's a stupid way to DRM, especially for single player games that have no reason to need an internet connection, at least C&C4 sort of has a reason.  However I get a little sick of people getting all hhuffy at the developers and publishers for wanting to get paid and don't seem to care in the least about the piraters.

[mxfox408]

I understand that companies worry about software piracy so they add drm but its retarded that you have to always be online to play the damn thing. It should registet once and if it detects the same key that was already registerd it should require a login much like steam.

[Ieldra]

ThePasserby wrote...

EA's editor has slammed the new DRM system used by EA on Command and Conquer 4.

You can read this short article here: www.videogamer.com/news/ea_slams_its_c_and_c4_drm.html

With this new DRM system, the player has to have his/her internet connection up always. Losing it even for a moment results in the game being forced back to the main menu and all progress, presumably from the last save, lost.

What if ME3 were to use this DRM as well? If EA forces it on C & C 4, chances are, it mightl foist it on ME3 as well. Would you still buy the game?

That would be one of the very few things that would make me avoid future ME games. In fact, it might be the only thing with this effect I can imagine. Some things annoy me more in games, some less. But some few just make me stop. No annoyance, no feeling of betrayal, just the knowledge that this is where I won't follow.

[Kandid001]

Intrusive DRM shafts honest customers more than pirates. I don't mind when the launcher of ME2 connects to the internet to inform me about new patch or DLC, but constant internet connection requirement to play a single player game is ridiculous. And if EA doesn't have the brain capacity to comprehend this obvious fact, a prestigious studio like BioWare deserves better than them.



And if EA does implement this "feature" to all of their games and BioWare abides, not my problem. There are many other high quality games which don't treat me like a criminal.

[Dansayshi]

Say no to DRM folks, hell, IT DOESNT EVEN BLOODY WORK!! When will publishers understand that instead of wasting money and annoying the very loyal people who actually pay money for the game. Im waiting for the day when a publisher will ask what its fans think, want and enjoy most, and cater to that, instead of merely looking at statistics and going "DURP IS CANZ STOOP DA PIRAATS" Alienating your player base will not make them pay money.



The WORST DRM of all tho is internet req. and when you lie about it its even worse. EA with c&c 4, in a Q and A session, were asked if their was any DRM. They said no. They were then asked if you needed an internet connection. They said yes, the game needs access to the internet at all times or you will not be able to keep playing. Bloody stupidity much Oo



I just HATE DRM. Rant over

[Seneva]

I'm old enough to remember this:"



Step 1: Open booklet

Step 2: Page 3, sentence 24, word 4

Step 3: Page 2, sentence 2, word 1

Step 4: Etc



I'm not against DRM per se. I am against the fact that I will be forced to keep a 100% active connection to the internet. (that is totally out of MY control. ISP my have a hiccup... BOOT!) to play a game I legally BOUGHT for 45 Euro.



I dislike piracy just like most people but this is penalizing the legitimate buyers. It *will* get hacked, no matter *what* kind of DRM you create.

[Baskervore]

Well, steam is not bad because you can play offline. What ubi and ea are doing with some of their games does not actually help fight piracy, and actually prevents sales.

[Dansayshi]

And here I thought EA learnt their lesson with Spore...

[Brp650]

Right now those who pirated SH5 are enjoying the game, no drm means no leash. Those of us who bought the game have that leash.

this new DRM is an awful idea. What if your new $30,000 car had to have a wireless connection in order to drive. Would suck if you were driving and all the sudden it just turned off and you heard a voice like onstar "were sorry, but your connection to the manufacturers wireless was lost, have a nice day"

My question is this. Is the DRM like Apples claim to the Iphone? They argued that even tho the consumer purchased the IPhone, it still belongs to Apple, so jailbreaking it is illegal and against the terms of use. In a sense, you are just "renting" the phone from them, not purchasing it.

USSC decided that if a consumer "purchased" said merchandise, then the consumer can do with it has they please.

Guess what im trying to get at, of course i may be way off target, the DRM is in fact violating the consumers right?

please correct me if i am wrong

[Dansayshi]

Didnt know about the iphone thing. With a game tho I beleive that your given the rights to use the software. That to me means I can use it anywhere I please. Atm tho they try to get in the way, and say I dont actually own a license to use the software, infact, im just renting it, and that they control the software, and can take it away as they wish.

What a bunch of corporate bolix. I own the disc, I have a right to whats on it, I can access it anywhere I want. I also believe that in most courts around the world, that would stand. Not in the US tho... 1 thing they just cannot understand is that US law does not = European law. The amount of times something from the US has violated the european unions trading standards and hasnt even been punished for it is staggering. All because the right people get their money.

Thats all my opinion ofc.

Modifié par Dansayshi, 30 mars 2010 - 08:37 .