Spartas Husky wrote...
Andorfiend wrote...
You can say a judge is a hypocrite, and you might even be right. But we still need people to exercise judgement. That is a job that needs doing, and it needs qualified people doing it.
Who is qualified to do so?
Take todays day. Who is qualified to tell a Green Berrett how to do his job?Who is qualified to tell Cerberus not to do anything ....inmoral?
Well let's see. The UCMJ, the Geneva convention and International warcrimes law for starters form the basis of the legal system within which a Green beret works. In direct command is a chain of command which goes up from his unit commander to Chief General of the Army to the (civilian) Secretary of Defense to the President. who is ultimately responsible for that Green Berets actions. He is responsible to although only somewhat answerable to American Public.
And the reason that Green Beret had damm well better follow orders and not kill everyone he thinks is a bad guy is that he just flat out doesn't know who is a bad guy or not. Someone trying to kill him? Pretty damn simple answer. Scummy gun running bastard who sells weapons to terrorists? Might be a bad guy, might be a Mossad mole penetrating the organization and if the Green Beret kills him it will screw up years worth of intelligence operations. The real world does not have the neat simple answers you think it does.
Spartas Husky wrote...
The Alliance, which is another word for a politician who steals money everytime they can?
And you're basing that on... what exactly? We haven't really seen much of the Alliance really. But the Alliance isn't 'a politician' it is a political/military organization responsible for all extraterrestrial humanity. So that would be yes, that's who Cerberus should be answering to. It's who they were answering to in fact before TIM decided to start murdering the Alliance soldiers who were responsible for protecting the humanity he claims to serve. So. TIM has cut himself off from the over all organization that might prevent him from screwing up allied intelligence or dropping a bomb on people with whom we were about to sign a treaty.
Spartas Husky wrote...
A simple civilian who has no idea what is at stake and a civilians job is to pay taxes and be quiet.
Huh. I was under the impression you're an American. Forgive me if I'm wrong. But if you are, and that's what you think the job of an American citizen is you own your civics professor a swift kick in the crotch. An american citizen through his right of franchise has the
duty to keep informed of events and politics local, national and global and to voice his opinions on them to his elected representative. He has the
duty to vote his conscience based on his informed opinion.
In simpler terms the whole reasons Green Berets exist is to allow civillians to live their lives in peace. And to keep supplying those Green Berets with arms and paychecks. Military organizations do forget this from time to time. The results are usually disastrous. Unless you're going to claim that a military controled country like Burma or North Korea can compete economically or militarily with a civilian controled country like South Korea or the US. In other words central control like TIM wants to exercise will
inevitably lead to humanity falling further behind the other races like the Asari or Salarians who reap the benefits of internal competition.
Spartas Husky wrote...
I am not contradicting my self. Point is, the guy on the field can't see right from wrong. The guy in charge of him has other things to worry about, and is more interested in success not whether or not what he is doing is acceptable.
Everyone on the field, is to deep to see the actual line.
Everyone in Charge cares not about the enemy, or the thousands of civilians, he/she cares about the couple of hundreds soldiers he/she wants to get out alive. Nothing else matters.
Everyone That is right on top watching the bigger picture dont see anyone, not a line, nor individuals, they see progress in 2 ways. The expdient bath, or the long path. Both are drentched in the blood of millions, doesn't matter which way you choose, you think you choose the right path because it satisfies your conciounce in some way.
The battalion commander had better have his eye on the bigger picture, and he has to hammer that view down through the chain of command.
But you're right. And that's why the guy in the field
isn't in charge. The US employs thousands of people whose job boils down to keeping track of what the hell is going on in this big, complex, interconnected world of ours. And they boil their information down into daily intelligence reports and it flows around the complex chains of communication within the national government. All so that we can act like we know what's going on, and we often get it right. You really think TIM can do better all by his lonesome in the vastly larger and more complex world of a galactic civilization?
The world isn't simple. It isn't black and white. Good guys and bad guys. Military heros and civillian sheep. Not all politicians are corrupt. Not all buisiness men are possessed of more greed than sense. And not all James Bond villains have good ideas.
Spartas Husky wrote...
Like I said before. Which one do you favor?
Mutilation, torture, experimantation
of millions of animals to produce a cure of some sort over a long
period?
OR
Mutilation, torture experimantation of a couple thousands of
humans to do the same, in a short time?
False dilema. There is no particular reason to think things will go faster or more ethically with human subjects. There are also sound reasons for using animals in preference to humans for a wide variety of reasons depending on the research in question. And besides the point really. We're damn near at the point of being able to model biochemical processes on an atom by atom basis now. In a century live testing will be only used for final stage confirmation of the computer modeling. Nothing Cerberus does is sound science or even slightly neccessary.
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