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[Gilead26]

 So I just beat ME 2 again last night and as I watched the ending something occurred to me that (for some reason) I'd never previously thought of.  How the hell are the reapers going to get to the Milky Way fast enough to be something that shepard actually has to worry about? 

I mean plan A was for Sovereign to open the relay and let the other reapers through. Plan B was to build a new vanguard out of humans and to presumably attempt to open the relay again or, possibly, to build a brand new relay linking to darkspace.  

The fact that Plan B was to create a new vanguard not to just charge straight to the milky way seems to suggest that the Reapers are so far away that even by the standards of immortal sentient machines just flying to the milky way would take far too long.  

So how do you think the writers are going to explain this?  Will it involve the foreshadowed dark energy induced death of Haestrom's sun? or some other as yet unexplained method?

Modifié par Gilead26, 28 mars 2010 - 12:14 .

[Collider]

Obviously for good story telling they're going to try to paint the Reapers are still credibly dangerous. Barring being foolish, Bioware will make Shepard win in the end though. I have no idea what they're going to do but I don't expect them to fail to deliver.

[Gilead26]

Well neither do I. I'm just wondering how it will be accomplished.

[Vellen]

I think it has something to do with the death of suns.

[Weiser_Cain]

Umm the reapers can travel as fast as you and may have control over the relays meaning they can still travel faster than light and you can't.

Also speed is not (necessarily) what you have to worry about with reapers, it's the numberless hoard of incredibly powerful living weapons bent on galaxy wide genocide.

Oh and they can apparently replenish their numbers by liquefying enough of any suitable species.

Then there's indoctrination and we still don't truely understand their nature or origins.

[kraidy1117]

Most likely it has something to do with dark energy. It was mentioned alot in ME2 and as we know, Element zero has dark energy.

[TheLostGenius]

No. They will die of old age before ME3 is released. Then the Quarians Team up with the Krogan's, and you have to fight them both, cuz the Krogans have a cure for the Genophage!! Dun duh dun!!! And Tali is now an admiral so Sheperd has to fight her. They get into a final climatic fight mid game, and SHeperd almost kisses her when they meet, but then the Renegade Trigger appears and you pull it and blow her brains out, and make quick paste of the rest of the evil Quarians. Turns out the Krogan's had a secret facility where they were cloned an bred with Collectors. So in the end game you fight a race of super collector/prothean/Krogan hybrids, that have massive attacks and massive HP regeneration, and are massively aggressive and each one uses a mass effect core massively lethal attacks!!!

[Karstedt]

They lost all credibility when they were dismissed by the turian councilor. Once you've seen a turning air quote "reapers", it's just not scary anymore.

[TheLostGenius]

Yea the Quarian pretty much nailed it. The "Reapers" are just part of Sheps silly imagination. Silly Sheperd. Wouldn't it be funny if Sheperd was just pretending that the game was happening the whole time...kinda like the player!!!!

[Gilead26]

TheLostGenius wrote...

Yea the Quarian pretty much nailed it. The "Reapers" are just part of Sheps silly imagination. Silly Sheperd. Wouldn't it be funny if Sheperd was just pretending that the game was happening the whole time...kinda like the player!!!!

lol that would be the worst cop-out ever,    I think I'd throw my controller through my tv if that happened. 

[MCPOWill]

Personally I think ME3 will be a race against to to prepare the galaxy against the Reapers. I guess similiar to DAO thing, which I hope they dont per se. You've got the Quarians and the Geth, the Citadel Council and Terminus Systems, The Alliance and Cerberus etc. Probably gather an army as well as go off the find some ancient Kill-A-Reaper device and save the galaxy!!! oh and there should be an possibly to epic fail just like ME2. BECAUSE YOUR DECISIONS DETERMINE THE FATE OF THE GALAXY!!!!!!! - the Bioware Mass Effect 3 slogan-   

lol jk a little on the last part.

Modifié par MCPOWill, 28 mars 2010 - 12:34 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Gilead26 wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

Yea the Quarian pretty much nailed it. The "Reapers" are just part of Sheps silly imagination. Silly Sheperd. Wouldn't it be funny if Sheperd was just pretending that the game was happening the whole time...kinda like the player!!!!

lol that would be the worst cop-out ever,    I think I'd throw my controller through my tv if that happened. 

I care too much about my TV to do that.  Maybe I'd settle for throwing it through my little sister.

[Xaijin]

Giant beams of death + magnitude of reapers.

[TheLostGenius]

Gilead26 wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

Yea the Quarian pretty much nailed it. The "Reapers" are just part of Sheps silly imagination. Silly Sheperd. Wouldn't it be funny if Sheperd was just pretending that the game was happening the whole time...kinda like the player!!!!

lol that would be the worst cop-out ever,    I think I'd throw my controller through my tv if that happened. 

I think it would be hilarious if Commander Sheperd was really some 20 something guy living at his parents house pretending he was a space captain, and he's all like super nerded out and playing with action figures in his underwear. Then he closes your eyes and suddenly your talking to Shep's Love Interest. 

Don't shatterz the illuisionz guyz

[NoUserNameHere]

They have a contingency plan.

[SnakeStrike8]

Hey, if the reapers were even half-smart, they'd just loiter around outside the galaxy for three hundred years or so and wait until Shepard-Commander dies and the galaxy dismisses the Reapers as a fable. Then they can roll in and take everyone by surprise!

Because really, the Reapers are immortal. They KNOW that they'll outlive any old meatbag and that other old meatbags have imperfect memories and tend to forget stuff.

Perfect sense, right?

[TheLostGenius]

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

Hey, if the reapers were even half-smart, they'd just loiter around outside the galaxy for three hundred years or so and wait until Shepard-Commander dies and the galaxy dismisses the Reapers as a fable. Then they can roll in and take everyone by surprise!
Because really, the Reapers are immortal. They KNOW that they'll outlive any old meatbag and that other old meatbags have imperfect memories and tend to forget stuff.
Perfect sense, right?

Thats what I was saying, why don't they just wait for Commander Sheperd to die of old age? They have billions of years to wait. They even explain this to you in the first game, that they bid their time. Maybe the galaxy is more vulnerable than you think.

[SnakeStrike8]

TheLostGenius wrote...

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

Hey, if the reapers were even half-smart, they'd just loiter around outside the galaxy for three hundred years or so and wait until Shepard-Commander dies and the galaxy dismisses the Reapers as a fable. Then they can roll in and take everyone by surprise!
Because really, the Reapers are immortal. They KNOW that they'll outlive any old meatbag and that other old meatbags have imperfect memories and tend to forget stuff.
Perfect sense, right?

Thats what I was saying, why don't they just wait for Commander Sheperd to die of old age? They have billions of years to wait. They even explain this to you in the first game, that they bid their time. Maybe the galaxy is more vulnerable than you think.

Hope that's true. What I'd REALLY enjoy in ME 3 wwould be for the Reapers to unleash some sort of self-replicating weapon in the Milky Way (like a sun-killing virus or somesuch) and the only way for you to stop them is to venture out into Dark Space and assault the Reapers to stop it.
It's the most tactically vialbe option from the Reapers point of view, right?
But of course, the Reapers will be stupid/ arrogant/ whatever and will try ot rush the galaxy, right into your prepared strongholds, fleets, defenses, and whatnot.

[wolf99000]

I read on here a theory on this with you messing there plan up there must have been a reason they left one back to call them in so maybe with them coming the long way it will make them vulnerable and not able to attack in full from the start as they used up most of there energy just getting to the milky way

my guess on dark energy maybe that is the power that they use and there allies are doing this so they can get fully powered once they get there

Modifié par wolf99000, 28 mars 2010 - 01:31 .

[Tilarta]

The Reapers are on a deadline, emphasis on the dead.



Basically, the time selected for their cull is usually before any civilization can advance far enough to threaten them technologically.



And because not one, but two of their attempts failed, they have to act quickly or lose everything.



After all, we have the Anti-Reaper EDI, the ability to manfacture Reaper weapons courtesy of the deceased Sovereign, the Reaper killer cannon discovered by Cerberus and as demonstrated by the many upgrades to the Normandy SR2, the threat posed by Reapers is diminishing.



I also think that they desperately need energy to recharge, so that could be another motivation to attack now.



As for the speed of their transit, the Reapers could probably come up with a way to temporarily boost their mass effect drives, theorectically getting close to or matching mass effect velocities.



Then, when they're close enough to a mass relay in our galaxy, all they have to do is use it to go wherever they want (most likely the Citadel).



As for their defeat, for me at least, the Rachni will be involved.

I spared the Rachni Queen and she promised me the aid of the Rachni in the future.



I'm also speculating offering the Krogan the genophage research data (I saved it for later) will secure their loyalty.



As for the rest of the battle, I have a feeling every race out there will band together to fight the threat of the Reapers.



Because when the Reapers come, it doesn't matter who's side you are on, everyone dies.

[TheLostGenius]

I know. The Emperor Reaper builds a "Star Destroyer" its a massive space station that blows up...stars! Creating massive mass effect warp fields that could allow the Reaper's to invade while re-catalyzing the Galaxy.

[Highdragonslayer]

In the end cinematic the reapers weren't going to the milky way so they probabibly have a plan C there.

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

Hey, if the reapers were even half-smart, they'd just loiter around outside the galaxy for three hundred years or so and wait until Shepard-Commander dies and the galaxy dismisses the Reapers as a fable. Then they can roll in and take everyone by surprise!
Because really, the Reapers are immortal. They KNOW that they'll outlive any old meatbag and that other old meatbags have imperfect memories and tend to forget stuff.
Perfect sense, right?

Shepard is pretty much a Cyborg and I think he would live quite a while, espiecally if Cerberus and/or non-heretic geth keep him alive.

[TuringPoint]

Gilead26 wrote...

 So I just beat ME 2 again last night and as I watched the ending something occurred to me that (for some reason) I'd never previously thought of.  How the hell are the reapers going to get to the Milky Way fast enough to be something that shepard actually has to worry about? 

Exactly my confusion when ME 1 ended and Shepard said, "The Reapers are still coming..."  How??  Except that there was a possibility of others being indoctrinated, even then, wasn't Sovereign needed to activate the relay?  If they had more than one Reaper, surely they would have brought both to the battle of the citadel.

[smudboy]

Gilead26 wrote...

 So I just beat ME 2 again last night and as I watched the ending something occurred to me that (for some reason) I'd never previously thought of.  How the hell are the reapers going to get to the Milky Way fast enough to be something that shepard actually has to worry about? 

I mean plan A was for Sovereign to open the relay and let the other reapers through. Plan B was to build a new vanguard out of humans and to presumably attempt to open the relay again or, possibly, to build a brand new relay linking to darkspace.  

The fact that Plan B was to create a new vanguard not to just charge straight to the milky way seems to suggest that the Reapers are so far away that even by the standards of immortal sentient machines just flying to the milky way would take far too long.  

So how do you think the writers are going to explain this?  Will it involve the foreshadowed dark energy induced death of Haestrom's sun? or some other as yet unexplained method?

Sorry, what was Plan B again, and how do you know this?