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[Dave of Canada]

kraidy1117 wrote...
Not realy, ME2 is kinda similar to ME in alot of way. The main villien is just a reaper agent. Same as ME=]

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[kraidy1117]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

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Bucky_McLachlan wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Bucky_McLachlan wrote...

^I just want to make sure you understand you're still completely and utterly totally indisputably wrong about the Mako being better for exploration and exploration not being a huge P.I.T.A. in the first game.

Anyone who resorts to stating the other person is wrong and doesn't back it up is stupid and has lost an argument.  You think I'm wrong? Prove it.

Prove it? There's no Mako in ME2. There's your proof.

That's pathetic.  I personally believe that Bioware took it out because some people couldn't articulate their opinions about something.  I liked the mako, i hated the terrain. I've seen this opinion reflected by many of the people at this forum.  It isn't my fault that they can't distinguish between mako hate and terrain hate in their own minds, but I have to live with the consequences.  Your point is meaningless because we don't know the motivations of Bioware for excluding the mako or whether they knew the difference between what people were saying and what they meant.  Because we don't know their motivations, we can't use their actions as proof.  Thus your point is again meaningless.

Wrong, they took it out because only a minority liked it, majority hated the MAKO. Want proof? Read reviews, by gamers and reviewrs, hell I wish the old forums where still there, then I could go back and show you alot of the hate threads for the MAKO. Face it, you are a minority who liked the MAKO. Bioware can't pleease everyone.

They didn't hate the MAKO they hated the TERRAIN they were forced to drive it on.  As a vehicle it was great, the terrain they gave us sucked.  Stop grouping a vehicle with the terrain it was driven on, they are two totally different things.

Um again you are wrong. MAKO was citted for it's poor handling. Which is true. It was slow, had a long ass shield recharge time that was a pain on insainity, half the time your shots would not even hit your target if you where on an angle even if aimed at it. The MAKO was borining and not fun. Just because you don't think so does not make your opinion better then mine, Bucky or any of the other MAKO haters. Get used to it.

Anyone who said it had bad handling doesn't know how to drive a warthog, they drive almost identically.  Just adjust the camera angle, that's all it took.  On PC it was even easier.  The inability to hit targets is again due to terrain, not the mako.  I'll give you the shield recharge time facet, that was a pain.

Thats so full of **** and you know it. I can drive the Warthog just fine, why? Because it handels well! The MAKO does not. When will the MAKo lovers just admit that the MAKO could have been alot better and it's out because not alot of people liked it.

I never had a problem driving the mako that wasn't a direct result of the terrain.  I drove it by adjusting the camera angle and holding forward on the left thumbstick.  That happens to be how I drive the Warthog, and thus they are identical.  And I'm not a mako lover, i just hate that idiots like you got me stuck with f-ing planet scanning instead of driving anything and exploring.  The mako is a better vehicle because it can take a hell of a lot more punishment then the HH and it is more interesting to drive.  It takes more interaction to drive the Mako than the HH.  Now if Bioware made a vehicle that had wheels and thus made us contend with the terrain as well as mako-esque turret and scope with the HH jump and platforming, then I would be happy.  As it stands the things I want can mostly be found in the Mako, which is why I like it better.

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels? Also how am I an idiot? Is it because I did not like the MAKO? Well get used to it boy, in real life no one likes the same thing as you. You can either just accept it and stop insulting or just leave this place all togther if you think people are idiots because they don't like the same as you. Go back to the Tali thread.

[Bucky_McLachlan]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Anyone who said it had bad handling doesn't know how to drive a warthog, they drive almost identically.

Alright, I'm going to stop responding to you because you just say unsubstantiated bullsh*t without really thinking it through. The Mako is not even kind of sort of similar to the Warthog, other than the fact that it has wheels and you drive it.

The physics, center of gravity, speed, turn radius...everything...totally different.

I can understand Bioware was trying to cash in on the success of vehicles in Halo, that's obvious. But they failed.

Modifié par Bucky_McLachlan, 28 mars 2010 - 02:42 .

[KotOREffecT]

Another thing I love about the Hammerhead is just the sound of it, the way it feels as I swoop around a corner while I'm running on boosters. It just feels epic in a scifi type of way, also kinda feels like pod racing from star wars/kotor, only a fighter pod verison. Imagine getting into Hammerhead style fights with other hover tanks in ME 3? That would be freaking badass!

[TheLostGenius]

kraidy1117 wrote...

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Bucky_McLachlan wrote...

Ya the only thing that really made an impact in the first game was it's story. Gameplay wise it did not influence the gaming industry in any way shape or form, in fact it was really seen to be lacking as far as gameplay is concerned, and that's why Mass Effect 2 is so much different (and better).

Well I was one of the few who did not like the story because I kinda felt it was too much of  H.P lovecraft short storie rip off, but hey each to there own.

Thats redundant. Nowadays there is no such thing as an original science fiction idea.

Meh I just expected more from Bioware, thats all.

Though the original Bioshock was pretty damn original and atmosphereic.

[GuardianAngel470]

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^I just want to make sure you understand you're still completely and utterly totally indisputably wrong about the Mako being better for exploration and exploration not being a huge P.I.T.A. in the first game.[/quote]
Anyone who resorts to stating the other person is wrong and doesn't back it up is stupid and has lost an argument.  You think I'm wrong? Prove it. [/quote]
Prove it? There's no Mako in ME2. There's your proof.

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That's pathetic.  I personally believe that Bioware took it out because some people couldn't articulate their opinions about something.  I liked the mako, i hated the terrain. I've seen this opinion reflected by many of the people at this forum.  It isn't my fault that they can't distinguish between mako hate and terrain hate in their own minds, but I have to live with the consequences.  Your point is meaningless because we don't know the motivations of Bioware for excluding the mako or whether they knew the difference between what people were saying and what they meant.  Because we don't know their motivations, we can't use their actions as proof.  Thus your point is again meaningless.[/quote]

Wrong, they took it out because only a minority liked it, majority hated the MAKO. Want proof? Read reviews, by gamers and reviewrs, hell I wish the old forums where still there, then I could go back and show you alot of the hate threads for the MAKO. Face it, you are a minority who liked the MAKO. Bioware can't pleease everyone.

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They didn't hate the MAKO they hated the TERRAIN they were forced to drive it on.  As a vehicle it was great, the terrain they gave us sucked.  Stop grouping a vehicle with the terrain it was driven on, they are two totally different things.
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Um again you are wrong. MAKO was citted for it's poor handling. Which is true. It was slow, had a long ass shield recharge time that was a pain on insainity, half the time your shots would not even hit your target if you where on an angle even if aimed at it. The MAKO was borining and not fun. Just because you don't think so does not make your opinion better then mine, Bucky or any of the other MAKO haters. Get used to it.

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Anyone who said it had bad handling doesn't know how to drive a warthog, they drive almost identically.  Just adjust the camera angle, that's all it took.  On PC it was even easier.  The inability to hit targets is again due to terrain, not the mako.  I'll give you the shield recharge time facet, that was a pain.
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Thats so full of **** and you know it. I can drive the Warthog just fine, why? Because it handels well! The MAKO does not. When will the MAKo lovers just admit that the MAKO could have been alot better and it's out because not alot of people liked it.

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I never had a problem driving the mako that wasn't a direct result of the terrain.  I drove it by adjusting the camera angle and holding forward on the left thumbstick.  That happens to be how I drive the Warthog, and thus they are identical.  And I'm not a mako lover, i just hate that idiots like you got me stuck with f-ing planet scanning instead of driving anything and exploring.  The mako is a better vehicle because it can take a hell of a lot more punishment then the HH and it is more interesting to drive.  It takes more interaction to drive the Mako than the HH.  Now if Bioware made a vehicle that had wheels and thus made us contend with the terrain as well as mako-esque turret and scope with the HH jump and platforming, then I would be happy.  As it stands the things I want can mostly be found in the Mako, which is why I like it better.

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It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels? Also how am I an idiot? Is it because I did not like the MAKO? Well get used to it boy, in real life no one likes the same thing as you. You can either just accept it and stop insulting or just leave this place all togther if you think people are idiots because they don't like the same as you. Go back to the Tali thread.

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First off, WTF is with the Tali thread comment?  Second, I was going to apologize for calling you an idiot and tell you how I got caught up in the moment but it seems such a gesture would be wasted.  The idiot comment was derived from emotions over being forced into something as stupid as planet scanning by people who couldn't be bothered to spend 10 seconds analyzing why things were the way they were in ME in regards to the mako.  I've seen you argue that you can't hit anything with the mako which is what happens when someone spends only enough time thinking about something to come to the conclusion that the obvious thing is at fault.  10 extra seconds spent thinking about why you couldn't hit that target and you would have seen that it is because the ground underneath you is crooked.  It isn't the vehicles fault, it is the terrain's fault.  Fix the problem, not the symptom.

[Cascadus]

The Mako was superior to the Hammerhead. Why? Because the Mako was an ACTUAL AFV. It could actually stand up to fire and appeared to be made out of materials that were not in fact paper mache. If I'm honestly scared the hell out of three infantry units in the Hammerhead, something that I never worried about in the Mako, then something is seriously wrong.
I loved the Mako. I hated the terrain. People can't separate the Mako from the mountains. I loved that feeling of bounciness that the Mako brought, launching myself over a cliff, suspending myself in the air with my thrusters and smashing into a Juggernaut. I loved the sheer feeling of awesomeness wielding the Mako's main gun, fighting Thresher Maws and informing enemies that their requests to destroy me were being politely replied to at velocity of 1% of light speed. I miss actually having the ability to aim my weapons rather than spamming my autoaim missiles and strafing a bunch. I never understood BioWare's logic in removing the Mako, it was a flawed concept, but had the ability to be great. All they needed to improve was some of the controls and fun terrain. As it stands, I just can't really feel the Hammerhead.
And people telling me because it's the future, we shouldn't be using wheels is hilarious. Maybe if ME took place in the year 3000, but as it stands, wheels still have inherent advantages over hovercraft.

Modifié par Cascadus, 28 mars 2010 - 02:47 .

[Zulu_DFA]

kraidy1117 wrote...

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels?

Again this is your self-defeating point that favors the Mako. The wheel was invented 5000 years ago and it will be relevant in the coming centuries, with or without eezo. Why do you think Lunar and Martian exploration vehicles roll on wheels (not even caterpillars)? It's more efficient.

And the idea of a hover vehicle for space exploration is just outright retarded. What is it supposed to hover in no air conditions?

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 28 mars 2010 - 02:51 .

[kraidy1117]

[quote]GuardianAngel470 wrote...

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[quote]GuardianAngel470 wrote...

[quote]kraidy1117 wrote...

[quote]GuardianAngel470 wrote...

[quote]Bucky_McLachlan wrote...

[quote]GuardianAngel470 wrote...

[quote]Bucky_McLachlan wrote...

^I just want to make sure you understand you're still completely and utterly totally indisputably wrong about the Mako being better for exploration and exploration not being a huge P.I.T.A. in the first game.[/quote]
Anyone who resorts to stating the other person is wrong and doesn't back it up is stupid and has lost an argument.  You think I'm wrong? Prove it. [/quote]
Prove it? There's no Mako in ME2. There's your proof.

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That's pathetic.  I personally believe that Bioware took it out because some people couldn't articulate their opinions about something.  I liked the mako, i hated the terrain. I've seen this opinion reflected by many of the people at this forum.  It isn't my fault that they can't distinguish between mako hate and terrain hate in their own minds, but I have to live with the consequences.  Your point is meaningless because we don't know the motivations of Bioware for excluding the mako or whether they knew the difference between what people were saying and what they meant.  Because we don't know their motivations, we can't use their actions as proof.  Thus your point is again meaningless.[/quote]

Wrong, they took it out because only a minority liked it, majority hated the MAKO. Want proof? Read reviews, by gamers and reviewrs, hell I wish the old forums where still there, then I could go back and show you alot of the hate threads for the MAKO. Face it, you are a minority who liked the MAKO. Bioware can't pleease everyone.

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They didn't hate the MAKO they hated the TERRAIN they were forced to drive it on.  As a vehicle it was great, the terrain they gave us sucked.  Stop grouping a vehicle with the terrain it was driven on, they are two totally different things.
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Um again you are wrong. MAKO was citted for it's poor handling. Which is true. It was slow, had a long ass shield recharge time that was a pain on insainity, half the time your shots would not even hit your target if you where on an angle even if aimed at it. The MAKO was borining and not fun. Just because you don't think so does not make your opinion better then mine, Bucky or any of the other MAKO haters. Get used to it.

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Anyone who said it had bad handling doesn't know how to drive a warthog, they drive almost identically.  Just adjust the camera angle, that's all it took.  On PC it was even easier.  The inability to hit targets is again due to terrain, not the mako.  I'll give you the shield recharge time facet, that was a pain.
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Thats so full of **** and you know it. I can drive the Warthog just fine, why? Because it handels well! The MAKO does not. When will the MAKo lovers just admit that the MAKO could have been alot better and it's out because not alot of people liked it.

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I never had a problem driving the mako that wasn't a direct result of the terrain.  I drove it by adjusting the camera angle and holding forward on the left thumbstick.  That happens to be how I drive the Warthog, and thus they are identical.  And I'm not a mako lover, i just hate that idiots like you got me stuck with f-ing planet scanning instead of driving anything and exploring.  The mako is a better vehicle because it can take a hell of a lot more punishment then the HH and it is more interesting to drive.  It takes more interaction to drive the Mako than the HH.  Now if Bioware made a vehicle that had wheels and thus made us contend with the terrain as well as mako-esque turret and scope with the HH jump and platforming, then I would be happy.  As it stands the things I want can mostly be found in the Mako, which is why I like it better.

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It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels? Also how am I an idiot? Is it because I did not like the MAKO? Well get used to it boy, in real life no one likes the same thing as you. You can either just accept it and stop insulting or just leave this place all togther if you think people are idiots because they don't like the same as you. Go back to the Tali thread.

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First off, WTF is with the Tali thread comment?  Second, I was going to apologize for calling you an idiot and tell you how I got caught up in the moment but it seems such a gesture would be wasted.  The idiot comment was derived from emotions over being forced into something as stupid as planet scanning by people who couldn't be bothered to spend 10 seconds analyzing why things were the way they were in ME in regards to the mako.  I've seen you argue that you can't hit anything with the mako which is what happens when someone spends only enough time thinking about something to come to the conclusion that the obvious thing is at fault.  10 extra seconds spent thinking about why you couldn't hit that target and you would have seen that it is because the ground underneath you is crooked.  It isn't the vehicles fault, it is the terrain's fault.  Fix the problem, not the symptom.[/quote]

Where did the Tali comment come from? Because you can't seem to understand people have differnt opinions then you and seeing as you don't like it, you should just stay in there.

[GuardianAngel470]

Bucky_McLachlan wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Anyone who said it had bad handling doesn't know how to drive a warthog, they drive almost identically.

Alright, I'm going to stop responding to you because you just say unsubstantiated bullsh*t without really thinking it through. The Mako is not even kind of sort of similar to the Warthog, other than the fact that it has wheels and you drive it.

The physics, center of gravity, speed, turn radius...everything...totally different.

I can understand Bioware was trying to cash in on the success of vehicles in Halo, that's obvious. But they failed.

I was speaking in terms of what I did with the controller.  I didn't mean that they behaved the same, I meant that what I did with the controller was the same.

[GuardianAngel470]

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^I just want to make sure you understand you're still completely and utterly totally indisputably wrong about the Mako being better for exploration and exploration not being a huge P.I.T.A. in the first game.[/quote]
Anyone who resorts to stating the other person is wrong and doesn't back it up is stupid and has lost an argument.  You think I'm wrong? Prove it. [/quote]
Prove it? There's no Mako in ME2. There's your proof.

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That's pathetic.  I personally believe that Bioware took it out because some people couldn't articulate their opinions about something.  I liked the mako, i hated the terrain. I've seen this opinion reflected by many of the people at this forum.  It isn't my fault that they can't distinguish between mako hate and terrain hate in their own minds, but I have to live with the consequences.  Your point is meaningless because we don't know the motivations of Bioware for excluding the mako or whether they knew the difference between what people were saying and what they meant.  Because we don't know their motivations, we can't use their actions as proof.  Thus your point is again meaningless.[/quote]

Wrong, they took it out because only a minority liked it, majority hated the MAKO. Want proof? Read reviews, by gamers and reviewrs, hell I wish the old forums where still there, then I could go back and show you alot of the hate threads for the MAKO. Face it, you are a minority who liked the MAKO. Bioware can't pleease everyone.

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They didn't hate the MAKO they hated the TERRAIN they were forced to drive it on.  As a vehicle it was great, the terrain they gave us sucked.  Stop grouping a vehicle with the terrain it was driven on, they are two totally different things.
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Um again you are wrong. MAKO was citted for it's poor handling. Which is true. It was slow, had a long ass shield recharge time that was a pain on insainity, half the time your shots would not even hit your target if you where on an angle even if aimed at it. The MAKO was borining and not fun. Just because you don't think so does not make your opinion better then mine, Bucky or any of the other MAKO haters. Get used to it.

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Anyone who said it had bad handling doesn't know how to drive a warthog, they drive almost identically.  Just adjust the camera angle, that's all it took.  On PC it was even easier.  The inability to hit targets is again due to terrain, not the mako.  I'll give you the shield recharge time facet, that was a pain.
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Thats so full of **** and you know it. I can drive the Warthog just fine, why? Because it handels well! The MAKO does not. When will the MAKo lovers just admit that the MAKO could have been alot better and it's out because not alot of people liked it.

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I never had a problem driving the mako that wasn't a direct result of the terrain.  I drove it by adjusting the camera angle and holding forward on the left thumbstick.  That happens to be how I drive the Warthog, and thus they are identical.  And I'm not a mako lover, i just hate that idiots like you got me stuck with f-ing planet scanning instead of driving anything and exploring.  The mako is a better vehicle because it can take a hell of a lot more punishment then the HH and it is more interesting to drive.  It takes more interaction to drive the Mako than the HH.  Now if Bioware made a vehicle that had wheels and thus made us contend with the terrain as well as mako-esque turret and scope with the HH jump and platforming, then I would be happy.  As it stands the things I want can mostly be found in the Mako, which is why I like it better.

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It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels? Also how am I an idiot? Is it because I did not like the MAKO? Well get used to it boy, in real life no one likes the same thing as you. You can either just accept it and stop insulting or just leave this place all togther if you think people are idiots because they don't like the same as you. Go back to the Tali thread.

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First off, WTF is with the Tali thread comment?  Second, I was going to apologize for calling you an idiot and tell you how I got caught up in the moment but it seems such a gesture would be wasted.  The idiot comment was derived from emotions over being forced into something as stupid as planet scanning by people who couldn't be bothered to spend 10 seconds analyzing why things were the way they were in ME in regards to the mako.  I've seen you argue that you can't hit anything with the mako which is what happens when someone spends only enough time thinking about something to come to the conclusion that the obvious thing is at fault.  10 extra seconds spent thinking about why you couldn't hit that target and you would have seen that it is because the ground underneath you is crooked.  It isn't the vehicles fault, it is the terrain's fault.  Fix the problem, not the symptom.[/quote]

Where did the Tali comment come from? Because you can't seem to understand people have differnt opinions then you and seeing as you don't like it, you should just stay in there.

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Way to respond to only the first and most meaningless sentence.

[kraidy1117]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels?

Again this is your self-defeating point that favors the Mako. Thw wheel was invented 5000 years ago and it will be relevant in the coming centuries, with or without eezo. Why do you think Lunar and Martian exploration vehicles roll on wheels (not ever caterpillars)? It's more efficient.

And the idea of a hover vehicle for space exploration is just outright retarded. What is it supposed to hover in no air conditions?

Two words for you, star wars. ME takes place in the feture, the Hammerhead makes more sence then the MAKO.

[kraidy1117]

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^I just want to make sure you understand you're still completely and utterly totally indisputably wrong about the Mako being better for exploration and exploration not being a huge P.I.T.A. in the first game.[/quote]
Anyone who resorts to stating the other person is wrong and doesn't back it up is stupid and has lost an argument.  You think I'm wrong? Prove it. [/quote]
Prove it? There's no Mako in ME2. There's your proof.

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That's pathetic.  I personally believe that Bioware took it out because some people couldn't articulate their opinions about something.  I liked the mako, i hated the terrain. I've seen this opinion reflected by many of the people at this forum.  It isn't my fault that they can't distinguish between mako hate and terrain hate in their own minds, but I have to live with the consequences.  Your point is meaningless because we don't know the motivations of Bioware for excluding the mako or whether they knew the difference between what people were saying and what they meant.  Because we don't know their motivations, we can't use their actions as proof.  Thus your point is again meaningless.[/quote]

Wrong, they took it out because only a minority liked it, majority hated the MAKO. Want proof? Read reviews, by gamers and reviewrs, hell I wish the old forums where still there, then I could go back and show you alot of the hate threads for the MAKO. Face it, you are a minority who liked the MAKO. Bioware can't pleease everyone.

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They didn't hate the MAKO they hated the TERRAIN they were forced to drive it on.  As a vehicle it was great, the terrain they gave us sucked.  Stop grouping a vehicle with the terrain it was driven on, they are two totally different things.
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Um again you are wrong. MAKO was citted for it's poor handling. Which is true. It was slow, had a long ass shield recharge time that was a pain on insainity, half the time your shots would not even hit your target if you where on an angle even if aimed at it. The MAKO was borining and not fun. Just because you don't think so does not make your opinion better then mine, Bucky or any of the other MAKO haters. Get used to it.

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Anyone who said it had bad handling doesn't know how to drive a warthog, they drive almost identically.  Just adjust the camera angle, that's all it took.  On PC it was even easier.  The inability to hit targets is again due to terrain, not the mako.  I'll give you the shield recharge time facet, that was a pain.
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Thats so full of **** and you know it. I can drive the Warthog just fine, why? Because it handels well! The MAKO does not. When will the MAKo lovers just admit that the MAKO could have been alot better and it's out because not alot of people liked it.

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I never had a problem driving the mako that wasn't a direct result of the terrain.  I drove it by adjusting the camera angle and holding forward on the left thumbstick.  That happens to be how I drive the Warthog, and thus they are identical.  And I'm not a mako lover, i just hate that idiots like you got me stuck with f-ing planet scanning instead of driving anything and exploring.  The mako is a better vehicle because it can take a hell of a lot more punishment then the HH and it is more interesting to drive.  It takes more interaction to drive the Mako than the HH.  Now if Bioware made a vehicle that had wheels and thus made us contend with the terrain as well as mako-esque turret and scope with the HH jump and platforming, then I would be happy.  As it stands the things I want can mostly be found in the Mako, which is why I like it better.

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It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels? Also how am I an idiot? Is it because I did not like the MAKO? Well get used to it boy, in real life no one likes the same thing as you. You can either just accept it and stop insulting or just leave this place all togther if you think people are idiots because they don't like the same as you. Go back to the Tali thread.

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First off, WTF is with the Tali thread comment?  Second, I was going to apologize for calling you an idiot and tell you how I got caught up in the moment but it seems such a gesture would be wasted.  The idiot comment was derived from emotions over being forced into something as stupid as planet scanning by people who couldn't be bothered to spend 10 seconds analyzing why things were the way they were in ME in regards to the mako.  I've seen you argue that you can't hit anything with the mako which is what happens when someone spends only enough time thinking about something to come to the conclusion that the obvious thing is at fault.  10 extra seconds spent thinking about why you couldn't hit that target and you would have seen that it is because the ground underneath you is crooked.  It isn't the vehicles fault, it is the terrain's fault.  Fix the problem, not the symptom.[/quote]

Where did the Tali comment come from? Because you can't seem to understand people have differnt opinions then you and seeing as you don't like it, you should just stay in there.

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Way to respond to only the first and most meaningless sentence.
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Well seeing as the Hammerhead fixed the MAKO aiming issues as you can shoot anywhere with the Hammerhead, even underneth you. You had to be right on solid ground to hit something which is plain stupid and who cares if it's not relistic. It's a video game.

[Zulu_DFA]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels?

Again this is your self-defeating point that favors the Mako. Thw wheel was invented 5000 years ago and it will be relevant in the coming centuries, with or without eezo. Why do you think Lunar and Martian exploration vehicles roll on wheels (not ever caterpillars)? It's more efficient.

And the idea of a hover vehicle for space exploration is just outright retarded. What is it supposed to hover in no air conditions?

Two words for you, star wars. ME takes place in the feture, the Hammerhead makes more sence then the MAKO.

U-huh. Like lazer beams being visible in space. Sure.

[KotOREffecT]

Anybody see that one thread the other day about Planet scaning vs the Mako? Yea it wasn't to pleasant for the Mako, because you know its sad when people pick something like scnaing planets over the Mako, and a lot of people in that thread did. Just saying, that vehicle wasn't as popular as some mako fanboys try to make it out to be enlight of the realease of the far superior Hammerhead.

[kraidy1117]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels?

Again this is your self-defeating point that favors the Mako. Thw wheel was invented 5000 years ago and it will be relevant in the coming centuries, with or without eezo. Why do you think Lunar and Martian exploration vehicles roll on wheels (not ever caterpillars)? It's more efficient.

And the idea of a hover vehicle for space exploration is just outright retarded. What is it supposed to hover in no air conditions?

Two words for you, star wars. ME takes place in the feture, the Hammerhead makes more sence then the MAKO.

U-huh. Like lazer beams being visible in space. Sure.

Who cares? Why do people always bring the it's not relistic argument? It's a game, not real. Star Trek has beams in space for crying out loud....

[GuardianAngel470]

kraidy1117 wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Way to respond to only the first and most meaningless sentence.

Well seeing as the Hammerhead fixed the MAKO aiming issues as you can shoot anywhere with the Hammerhead, even underneth you. You had to be right on solid ground to hit something which is plain stupid and who cares if it's not relistic. It's a video game.

That's pathetic.  How is it fun to shoot things like that?  It wasn't an aiming issue at all.  The only thing Bioware could have done to fix that on the mako is....there's nothing, it was realistic and it made you STOP and AIM before firing.  The HH weapon is a joke.  It isn't fun to shoot fire and forget missiles, especially not FnF missiles that don't hit their targets.  The mako's weapons were better because A) they were more realistic and you actually had to try to hit your target. 

[GuardianAngel470]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels?

Again this is your self-defeating point that favors the Mako. Thw wheel was invented 5000 years ago and it will be relevant in the coming centuries, with or without eezo. Why do you think Lunar and Martian exploration vehicles roll on wheels (not ever caterpillars)? It's more efficient.

And the idea of a hover vehicle for space exploration is just outright retarded. What is it supposed to hover in no air conditions?

Two words for you, star wars. ME takes place in the feture, the Hammerhead makes more sence then the MAKO.

U-huh. Like lazer beams being visible in space. Sure.

Who cares? Why do people always bring the it's not relistic argument? It's a game, not real. Star Trek has beams in space for crying out loud....

Because the effect of realism is the introduction of challenge.  IF a game isn't challenging then it isn't very fun.

[kraidy1117]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Way to respond to only the first and most meaningless sentence.

Well seeing as the Hammerhead fixed the MAKO aiming issues as you can shoot anywhere with the Hammerhead, even underneth you. You had to be right on solid ground to hit something which is plain stupid and who cares if it's not relistic. It's a video game.

That's pathetic.  How is it fun to shoot things like that?  It wasn't an aiming issue at all.  The only thing Bioware could have done to fix that on the mako is....there's nothing, it was realistic and it made you STOP and AIM before firing.  The HH weapon is a joke.  It isn't fun to shoot fire and forget missiles, especially not FnF missiles that don't hit their targets.  The mako's weapons were better because A) they were more realistic and you actually had to try to hit your target. 

Who cares if it's relistic! It is a video game. Not real life, when will people like you relise this and grow up. Also my missles never miss the targets, maybe you just fail at the Hammerhead because alot of people have no problem with the Hammerheads controls expect for it's weak shield and lack of a second gun. Face it, the Hammerhead is with us now and just saying the Hammerhead sucks will not help your argument. Want to be contructive, give ideas to Bioware like many of us have done to make the Hammerhead better.

[Zulu_DFA]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels?

Again this is your self-defeating point that favors the Mako. Thw wheel was invented 5000 years ago and it will be relevant in the coming centuries, with or without eezo. Why do you think Lunar and Martian exploration vehicles roll on wheels (not ever caterpillars)? It's more efficient.

And the idea of a hover vehicle for space exploration is just outright retarded. What is it supposed to hover in no air conditions?

Two words for you, star wars. ME takes place in the feture, the Hammerhead makes more sence then the MAKO.

U-huh. Like lazer beams being visible in space. Sure.

Who cares? Why do people always bring the it's not relistic argument? It's a game, not real. Star Trek has beams in space for crying out loud....

Because back in ME1 it all made much more sense. And it's a pity that a would-be good sci-fi francise is brought down so soon to the level of Star Wars and Star Trek, just because the crowd wants more special effects, ****** and cornball, and "who cares?" about all the rest.

[kraidy1117]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels?

Again this is your self-defeating point that favors the Mako. Thw wheel was invented 5000 years ago and it will be relevant in the coming centuries, with or without eezo. Why do you think Lunar and Martian exploration vehicles roll on wheels (not ever caterpillars)? It's more efficient.

And the idea of a hover vehicle for space exploration is just outright retarded. What is it supposed to hover in no air conditions?

Two words for you, star wars. ME takes place in the feture, the Hammerhead makes more sence then the MAKO.

U-huh. Like lazer beams being visible in space. Sure.

Who cares? Why do people always bring the it's not relistic argument? It's a game, not real. Star Trek has beams in space for crying out loud....

Because the effect of realism is the introduction of challenge.  IF a game isn't challenging then it isn't very fun.

You are a complete and utter moron you know that?No game is relistic at all, more importly sci-fi has never and will never be relistic. Why? Because it would be borining. There is no sound in space and only one Star Trek did that right and it was a mvoie. There is no fire in space, yet many sci-fi games including ME have fire in space. I can go on and on.

[GuardianAngel470]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

It's sci-fi and in the feture for christsakes. Who cares abouyt wheels?

Again this is your self-defeating point that favors the Mako. Thw wheel was invented 5000 years ago and it will be relevant in the coming centuries, with or without eezo. Why do you think Lunar and Martian exploration vehicles roll on wheels (not ever caterpillars)? It's more efficient.

And the idea of a hover vehicle for space exploration is just outright retarded. What is it supposed to hover in no air conditions?

Two words for you, star wars. ME takes place in the feture, the Hammerhead makes more sence then the MAKO.

U-huh. Like lazer beams being visible in space. Sure.

Who cares? Why do people always bring the it's not relistic argument? It's a game, not real. Star Trek has beams in space for crying out loud....

Because back in ME1 it all made much more sense. And it's a pity that a would-be good sci-fi francise is brought down so soon to the level of Star Wars and Star Trek, just because the crowd wants more special effects, ****** and cornball, and "who cares?" about all the rest.

Actually the visibility of the "Lasers" makes sense.  For one, the reaper and thanix cannon aren't lasers, they are plasma jets.  The collector weapon I thought was the same, but I remember mention of a projected energy weapon and because I don't know anything about PEW i can't say why it is visible.  The other two though make sense.