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Aradace wrote...

I have to agree with the OP....As "flawed" as the Hammerhead "may" be, it is FAR superior to the Mako in terms of controlability. Anyone who actually LIKED the Mako must be masochistic bastards IMO lol.


Read: Anyone who has an opinion that differs from my own is wrong, and I shall show my displeasure by throwing baseless insults around.

Jesus Christ, the retardation in this thread is beyond comprehension. Its like a damned religion thread...

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Hammerhead >>>>> Mako b*tches!

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Hammerhead >>>>> Mako b*tches!


Casual peasant. Enjoy your completely linear missions and terrible weapon systems.

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No we were just smart enough to know how to drive it. I think you are confusing the Mako with bad lvl design. The lvl design forcing us to climb up near vertical cliffs all the time did suck.

That being said I do like how the HH handles I just didn't like how I couldn't precision aim the main gun or how the seeking rounds often veered off the target you were trying to hit just to miss a target somewhere else. Some shields on it would have been nice as well.

And Bucky you are the one grasping at straws bro. Your assuming the engine operates in some completely non obvious fashion. When the reality is that a fan is shaped like that for one reason and one reason only slicing through air. Not slicing through the vacuum of space or blowing space vacuum on the rest of the engine to cool it down. You are smart enough to know that there is nothing to blow on the engine in space. The shear fact that it is a fan means that it was designed to interact with atmosphere in some way, shape or form. Just be a man suck it up and admit it's a goof and move on.

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the funny thing about driving the mako, its like driving a real vehicle over adverse terrain, if that vehicle had no shocks. with the mako you can't just plow straight through and expect it to go smoothly. when you drive over an open field in, lets say a hummer, you have to manuever around and over dips and bumps and so on. if you mashed the gas and took a beeline, that hummer would bounce around more than the mako ever did. this is what the mako is like, drive deliberatly and it handles fine, drive fast and straight and flops like a stranded fish.



oddly enough military channel is showing a modern analog to the mako; the Crusher an autonomous, six-wheeled, go anywhere recon vehicle. pretty cool.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Hammerhead >>>>> Mako b*tches!


Guess what fart knocker?

MAKO>>>>>>>>>>> POS Hammerhead. lol

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Aedan_Cousland wrote...

The Mako itself was fine. The only thing really wrong with the Mako was some of the lousy and/or boring terrain you were given to explore with it. Even so, Mako mining > plannet scanning

I have no comment on the Hammerhead, since I haven't used it.

Thank you, this is what I've been saying this whole thread and it immediately got me labeled a Mako lover.  Go figure.

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Lambu1 wrote...

the funny thing about driving the mako, its like driving a real vehicle over adverse terrain, if that vehicle had no shocks. with the mako you can't just plow straight through and expect it to go smoothly. when you drive over an open field in, lets say a hummer, you have to manuever around and over dips and bumps and so on. if you mashed the gas and took a beeline, that hummer would bounce around more than the mako ever did. this is what the mako is like, drive deliberatly and it handles fine, drive fast and straight and flops like a stranded fish.

oddly enough military channel is showing a modern analog to the mako; the Crusher an autonomous, six-wheeled, go anywhere recon vehicle. pretty cool.


And maneuvering around terrain is still more interesting than gliding over everything, especially when you have to do one or the other for an extended period of time.

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DoNotResistHate wrote...

No we were just smart enough to know how to drive it. I think you are confusing the Mako with bad lvl design. The lvl design forcing us to climb up near vertical cliffs all the time did suck.

That being said I do like how the HH handles I just didn't like how I couldn't precision aim the main gun or how the seeking rounds often veered off the target you were trying to hit just to miss a target somewhere else. Some shields on it would have been nice as well.

And Bucky you are the one grasping at straws bro. Your assuming the engine operates in some completely non obvious fashion. When the reality is that a fan is shaped like that for one reason and one reason only slicing through air. Not slicing through the vacuum of space or blowing space vacuum on the rest of the engine to cool it down. You are smart enough to know that there is nothing to blow on the engine in space. The shear fact that it is a fan means that it was designed to interact with atmosphere in some way, shape or form. Just be a man suck it up and admit it's a goof and move on.


And they call me a minority.  This is what I've been saying Kraidy and I'm not alone.

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GuardianAngel470 wrote...

DoNotResistHate wrote...

No we were just smart enough to know how to drive it. I think you are confusing the Mako with bad lvl design. The lvl design forcing us to climb up near vertical cliffs all the time did suck.

That being said I do like how the HH handles I just didn't like how I couldn't precision aim the main gun or how the seeking rounds often veered off the target you were trying to hit just to miss a target somewhere else. Some shields on it would have been nice as well.

And Bucky you are the one grasping at straws bro. Your assuming the engine operates in some completely non obvious fashion. When the reality is that a fan is shaped like that for one reason and one reason only slicing through air. Not slicing through the vacuum of space or blowing space vacuum on the rest of the engine to cool it down. You are smart enough to know that there is nothing to blow on the engine in space. The shear fact that it is a fan means that it was designed to interact with atmosphere in some way, shape or form. Just be a man suck it up and admit it's a goof and move on.


And they call me a minority.  This is what I've been saying Kraidy and I'm not alone.


The truth is that the player was too lazy to find the intended path to get to the marked object. Instead the player would try to follow a straightline path to the map marker, often sending the player across jagged surfaces that were not optimal for reaching the destination.

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TheLostGenius wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

DoNotResistHate wrote...

No we were just smart enough to know how to drive it. I think you are confusing the Mako with bad lvl design. The lvl design forcing us to climb up near vertical cliffs all the time did suck.

That being said I do like how the HH handles I just didn't like how I couldn't precision aim the main gun or how the seeking rounds often veered off the target you were trying to hit just to miss a target somewhere else. Some shields on it would have been nice as well.

And Bucky you are the one grasping at straws bro. Your assuming the engine operates in some completely non obvious fashion. When the reality is that a fan is shaped like that for one reason and one reason only slicing through air. Not slicing through the vacuum of space or blowing space vacuum on the rest of the engine to cool it down. You are smart enough to know that there is nothing to blow on the engine in space. The shear fact that it is a fan means that it was designed to interact with atmosphere in some way, shape or form. Just be a man suck it up and admit it's a goof and move on.


And they call me a minority.  This is what I've been saying Kraidy and I'm not alone.


The truth is that the player was too lazy to find the intended path to get to the marked object. Instead the player would try to follow a straightline path to the map marker, often sending the player across jagged surfaces that were not optimal for reaching the destination.


Yes, finding the right path was indeed often very helpful. But mostly there just wasn't any. At least not to the minor probes and anomalies. 

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TheLostGenius wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

DoNotResistHate wrote...

No we were just smart enough to know how to drive it. I think you are confusing the Mako with bad lvl design. The lvl design forcing us to climb up near vertical cliffs all the time did suck.

That being said I do like how the HH handles I just didn't like how I couldn't precision aim the main gun or how the seeking rounds often veered off the target you were trying to hit just to miss a target somewhere else. Some shields on it would have been nice as well.

And Bucky you are the one grasping at straws bro. Your assuming the engine operates in some completely non obvious fashion. When the reality is that a fan is shaped like that for one reason and one reason only slicing through air. Not slicing through the vacuum of space or blowing space vacuum on the rest of the engine to cool it down. You are smart enough to know that there is nothing to blow on the engine in space. The shear fact that it is a fan means that it was designed to interact with atmosphere in some way, shape or form. Just be a man suck it up and admit it's a goof and move on.


And they call me a minority.  This is what I've been saying Kraidy and I'm not alone.


The truth is that the player was too lazy to find the intended path to get to the marked object. Instead the player would try to follow a straightline path to the map marker, often sending the player across jagged surfaces that were not optimal for reaching the destination.

Actually, for me, the only way I could be thorough was to follow a straight line, ie the Red Wall.  I knew that it would be easier to go around mountains but doing that might make me miss out on minerals.  I suffered in the interest of being thorough.  Any other reason may or may not be as reasonable.  But when I just needed to get somewhere and I wasn't trying to be thorough I would navigate the terrain.

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Karstedt wrote...

I can haz clip?


Canz ye?

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Karstedt wrote...

I can haz clip?


Canz ye?


No, hez cantz.

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SimonTheFrog wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

DoNotResistHate wrote...

No we were just smart enough to know how to drive it. I think you are confusing the Mako with bad lvl design. The lvl design forcing us to climb up near vertical cliffs all the time did suck.

That being said I do like how the HH handles I just didn't like how I couldn't precision aim the main gun or how the seeking rounds often veered off the target you were trying to hit just to miss a target somewhere else. Some shields on it would have been nice as well.

And Bucky you are the one grasping at straws bro. Your assuming the engine operates in some completely non obvious fashion. When the reality is that a fan is shaped like that for one reason and one reason only slicing through air. Not slicing through the vacuum of space or blowing space vacuum on the rest of the engine to cool it down. You are smart enough to know that there is nothing to blow on the engine in space. The shear fact that it is a fan means that it was designed to interact with atmosphere in some way, shape or form. Just be a man suck it up and admit it's a goof and move on.


And they call me a minority.  This is what I've been saying Kraidy and I'm not alone.


The truth is that the player was too lazy to find the intended path to get to the marked object. Instead the player would try to follow a straightline path to the map marker, often sending the player across jagged surfaces that were not optimal for reaching the destination.


Yes, finding the right path was indeed often very helpful. But mostly there just wasn't any. At least not to the minor probes and anomalies. 


For all major quest objectives there was almost always a smooth path to take to where you were going, often that was not in a straight line from the drop point.

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So I've recently been playing ME1 again. One of the reasons I held off for so long was because I dreaded the time sink that is the Mako. After re-playing two of the first missions with said Mako, I really don't know why I hesitated. You don't really need to explore the entire scope of the plant grid they give you to finish the game, and if you just stick to the items presented on the map, the side missions don't take all that long. In fact, so long as I'm not stuck in the crags, the Mako is rather pleasant to drive. It is also combat effective without the need of 'missile sniping.'



If I could drop the Hammerhead into the ME1 planet exploration system, there would be less time spent at the cost of combat reliability. I don't think I like that tradeoff. Now, in fairness, the Hammerhead wasn't designed for ME1 levels, just like the Mako wasn't designed for ME2 levels. That said, and although I don't particularly like the Hammerhead, I wouldn't be opposed to a more combat viable version of it.

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

Hammerhead >>>>> Mako b*tches!


Ahahaha whats sup skilled seeker! Your damn right Hammerhead > Mako! Where you been bro? Me and Collider and Kraidy been stickin it to these mako fanboy biatches. Remember a few days ago we were derailing mako fanboy topics left and right and owning them! lol

Hammerhead up your arse!

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Hammerhead is much more fun to drive.
Hammerhead sections, however, suck ass. Combat does, too.
Mako isn't that fun to drive at all.
-Almost- everything else about Mako sections sucks ass as well. Combat especially.

Hammerhead is missing some things, sure, but it's still an improvement.

Modifié par Schroing, 28 mars 2010 - 07:08 .


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Guardian4379 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

I have to agree with the OP....As "flawed" as the Hammerhead "may" be, it is FAR superior to the Mako in terms of controlability. Anyone who actually LIKED the Mako must be masochistic bastards IMO lol.


Read: Anyone who has an opinion that differs from my own is wrong, and I shall show my displeasure by throwing baseless insults around.

Jesus Christ, the retardation in this thread is beyond comprehension. Its like a damned religion thread...

When I, a thoughtful and unblessed Presbyterian, examine the Koran, I know that beyond any question every Mohammedan is insane; not in all things, but in religious matters. When a thoughtful and unblessed Mohammedan examines the Westminster Catechism, he knows that beyond any question I am spiritually insane. I cannot prove to him that he is insane, because you never can prove anything to a lunatic--for that is a part of his insanity and the evidence of it. He cannot prove to me that I am insane, for my mind has the same defect that afflicts his. All Democrats are insane, but not one of them knows it; none but the Republicans and Mugwumps know it. All the Republicans are insane, but only the Democrats and Mugwumps can perceive it. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
Samuel Langhorne Clemens
Christian Science 1907

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Guardian4379 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

I have to agree with the OP....As "flawed" as the Hammerhead "may" be, it is FAR superior to the Mako in terms of controlability. Anyone who actually LIKED the Mako must be masochistic bastards IMO lol.


Read: Anyone who has an opinion that differs from my own is wrong, and I shall show my displeasure by throwing baseless insults around.

Jesus Christ, the retardation in this thread is beyond comprehension. Its like a damned religion thread...


lol'd

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My theory is that the mako was better. If for no other reason then it is NOT playing Megaman in the Iceworld level of bad handling. Yes, it jumps. Wheee. As far as an actual military vehicle goes, though, it's terrible. Low survivability, poor firepower. While it does have excellent mobility, it suffers from a lot of drift, The Mako had neither of these problems, and drove like a cross between a Dodge scout car and a four wheeler.

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I just think they should make BOTH available in ME3 and let ppl choose which to take for planet exploration.


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SAME SEX ROMANCES!



o... wait

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this might work as a good analogy, perhaps not, but here goes:

the Mako is to the Hammerhead what Gran Tourismo is to Burnout, or to make it even simplier semi-realistic sim vs. arcade "un-sim"



i don't know, i'm high from to much cleaning (weeee bleach)

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I didn't have any trouble with the combat with the Hammerhead. Although it helps that the helicopter combat tactics I learned playing Janes Longbow 2 translate well to it. XD

Just keep debris or terrain in between you and your enemy, and pop up/pop over and fire some fire-and-forget missiles at them before dropping safely below cover again. Repeat until the targets are clear and move on.

You can't charge in or try to Mako circle-strafe enemies or you will die, particularly since the Collosus siege cannon bolts track you.