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[Mutantcadet14]

Kronner wrote...

Squad Cryo Ammo is awesome.

Most useless is Shredder Ammo.

i was going to say shockwave but this is it for sure

[TheBellTolls4Me]

Most useless would be shredder, Shep!Fortification is a close second.



...I feel like the only one in love with the Cryo powers ._. I wish there was a class that would have both Cryo Ammo AND blast. I'd have so much fun with that.

[Nigawatts]

Any ability that doesn't effect armor/shield/biotic and isn't crowd control.



Fort/GethShield/Barrier get my vote cuz at least the other abilities increase something. The best "Shield" ability in the game is an Infiltrator's Cloak.

[Mister Mida]

TheBellTolls4Me wrote...

Most useless would be shredder, Shep!Fortification is a close second.

...I feel like the only one in love with the Cryo powers ._. I wish there was a class that would have both Cryo Ammo AND blast. I'd have so much fun with that.

Look at the first page of this thread and you'll see you're not alone.

[TheBestClass]

Shredder Ammo is not just useless, it goes out of it's way to **** up your day.

[baller7345]

sinosleep wrote...

Any of the shield powers. Medi-gel does their job just as well with a MUCH shorter cool down.

There is one issue with this although it is really small and probably doesn't matter.  You have to raise your omni tool to use medigel which can sometimes be hard to do if you are being shot and stunned where as the shield powers happen instantly without an animation.  So if you don't use bonus powers to begin with 1 point in the shield powers can be useful in certain situations where it would be impossible to use medigel.  It isn't going to be a game changer but it is sometimes better than medigel simply because you can use it without an animation.

[Tlazolteotl]

Also, getting those medigel upgrades costs about 50,000 platinum.

[tonnactus]

Kronner wrote...


Most useless is Shredder Ammo.

This is wrong for a defence stripper class like the sentinel.It isnt also that bad for thane on collector mission because he removes their protection with warp and finish them of very quickly with this ammo.

[tonnactus]

Pacifien wrote...
 Once defenses go down, death is so close to following as to make shredder round irrelevant.

Complete nonsense.Atleast for klixen and krogans.

[tonnactus]

WillieStyle wrote...

3) Inferno Grenade - draws you in with the cool graphics/animations. Then you realize that it can't be upgraded by research of any kind and so sucks very very hard.

Heavy inferno did a damage of 400 points.Its better then an upgraded warp against armor.

[Tlazolteotl]

Heavy inferno also CCs people with defenses, and does a good job stripping shields.

Against many foes at once.

[tonnactus]

Slam is the worsest biotic ability imo.Just because it doesnt have an area version.
The best use is for a vanguard that dont want to unlock pull with putting points in shockwave for husk killing.Thats it.
Complete junk to be honest.

Modifié par tonnactus, 28 mars 2010 - 10:04 .

[Bigeyez]

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

can i just group one category as a whole and call it the worst ability in the game? because thatd be using biotics on higher difficulty settings. biotics are pointless in hardcore and insanity.

pointless.

If by useless you mean Reave and Warp being two of the best powers in the game on Insanity then yes they are "useless".

Shredder ammo, fort, nueral shock are pretty much next to useless on any difficulty.

[Tlazolteotl]

Well, mechanically slam may be mediocre, but slamplosions are so cool it's worth it just for that.

[SOULdi3r]

on shep- there isnt one really, i guess AI hacking
on squad mates-tali's combat drone "30 SECOND COOLDOWN...WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

oh and cryo blast/ammo is awsome, blast is pull but slightly not as good while still being more fun (cryo freeze Jedore just as she kneels [in a away you would bow to a king] from shots to the leg and then shoot her in the head with a widow sniper rifle at point blank range, and then tell me that cryo isnt worth it

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

Bigeyez wrote...

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

can i just group one category as a whole and call it the worst ability in the game? because thatd be using biotics on higher difficulty settings. biotics are pointless in hardcore and insanity.

pointless.

If by useless you mean Reave and Warp being two of the best powers in the game on Insanity then yes they are "useless".

Shredder ammo, fort, nueral shock are pretty much next to useless on any difficulty.

ach. i forget warp and reave are biotic abilities. debuffs are always going to be good. is there a bad debuff in this game??? i suppose i should clarify singularity is good too along with the debuffs.

but throw, slam, pull, shockwave are all terrible for harder difficulties. whats the point of having a CC ability if you can rarely use it? all CC abilities are pointless on higher difficulties, not just biotics.

crippling slam is awesome. its basically just like bastion stasis. i love it on my infiltrator.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll part 2, 28 mars 2010 - 10:35 .

[baller7345]

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

Bigeyez wrote...

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

can i just group one category as a whole and call it the worst ability in the game? because thatd be using biotics on higher difficulty settings. biotics are pointless in hardcore and insanity.

pointless.

If by useless you mean Reave and Warp being two of the best powers in the game on Insanity then yes they are "useless".

Shredder ammo, fort, nueral shock are pretty much next to useless on any difficulty.

ach. i forget warp and reave are biotic abilities. debuffs are always going to be good. is there a bad debuff in this game??? i suppose i should clarify singularity is good too along with the debuffs.

but throw, slam, pull, shockwave are all terrible for harder difficulties. whats the point of having a CC ability if you can rarely use it? all CC abilities are pointless on higher difficulties, not just biotics.

crippling slam is awesome. its basically just like bastion stasis. i love it on my infiltrator.

The majority of enemies have more health than any other form of protection so pull throw and singulairty are all great at setting up warp explosions, crowd controlling, or just killing stuff.  Warp is best when you can explode it and the only way to do that is to combine it with other biotics.  Pull throw, and singularity all stop stuff from shooitng at you which is another big plus.  Singularity works on all enimes regardless of protection so that gives it even bigger bonuses.

Biotics aren't useless its just that a lot of people don't figure out how to use them

[Dasher10]

Cryo blast is useless. Neural shock is better. Its cooldown is half as long and the stun is instant. Against synthetics, use overload, which also works on shields.

[Dasher10]

Plus I can spam neural shock and barely use any other abilities except for Incinerate and overload to take away defenses. Then hit them with neural shock and line up a headshot with my Carnifex. Keep in mind that this was on Veteran

[baller7345]

You can do the same thing with cryo blast on insanity but instead of head shots you melee everything. Use incinerate and overload to strip defenses then freeze a group and go melee them.

[jerms510]

I found Adrenaline Rush to be pretty pointless.

[Mutantcadet14]

tonnactus wrote...

Kronner wrote...


Most useless is Shredder Ammo.

This is wrong for a defence stripper class like the sentinel.It isnt also that bad for thane on collector mission because he removes their protection with warp and finish them of very quickly with this ammo.

Theoretically yes. But in practice armor peircing or even warp ammo would be preferable.

On paper shredder looks good +80% against organic health?? sick! However, this boost is only for the health of organics. if you have the element zero to change bonus powers for every other mission then i say more power to you but where AP ammo lacks 10% damage (and warp ammo 20%) this is made up for by the bonus you get against armor and synthetic health (and for warp ammo also against barriers).

As for thane its more varriable. its nice when squaddies have their own ammo if nobody has squad ammo but for some builds which rely on a squad ammo (like squad cryo) the overwrite is a nuissance (i personally dont mind because i have squad powers on manual but that point is still missed by throw field)

[Mutantcadet14]

baller7345 wrote...

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

Bigeyez wrote...

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

can i just group one category as a whole and call it the worst ability in the game? because thatd be using biotics on higher difficulty settings. biotics are pointless in hardcore and insanity.

pointless.

If by useless you mean Reave and Warp being two of the best powers in the game on Insanity then yes they are "useless".

Shredder ammo, fort, nueral shock are pretty much next to useless on any difficulty.

ach. i forget warp and reave are biotic abilities. debuffs are always going to be good. is there a bad debuff in this game??? i suppose i should clarify singularity is good too along with the debuffs.

but throw, slam, pull, shockwave are all terrible for harder difficulties. whats the point of having a CC ability if you can rarely use it? all CC abilities are pointless on higher difficulties, not just biotics.

crippling slam is awesome. its basically just like bastion stasis. i love it on my infiltrator.

The majority of enemies have more health than any other form of protection so pull throw and singulairty are all great at setting up warp explosions, crowd controlling, or just killing stuff.  Warp is best when you can explode it and the only way to do that is to combine it with other biotics.  Pull throw, and singularity all stop stuff from shooitng at you which is another big plus.  Singularity works on all enimes regardless of protection so that gives it even bigger bonuses.

Biotics aren't useless its just that a lot of people don't figure out how to use them

Also I keep pull on my vanguard for areas where i feel like playing more defencively. wear down defences and pull to incapacitate. the cooldown is so short it almost isn't even there.

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

baller7345 wrote...

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

Bigeyez wrote...

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

can i just group one category as a whole and call it the worst ability in the game? because thatd be using biotics on higher difficulty settings. biotics are pointless in hardcore and insanity.

pointless.

If by useless you mean Reave and Warp being two of the best powers in the game on Insanity then yes they are "useless".

Shredder ammo, fort, nueral shock are pretty much next to useless on any difficulty.

ach. i forget warp and reave are biotic abilities. debuffs are always going to be good. is there a bad debuff in this game??? i suppose i should clarify singularity is good too along with the debuffs.

but throw, slam, pull, shockwave are all terrible for harder difficulties. whats the point of having a CC ability if you can rarely use it? all CC abilities are pointless on higher difficulties, not just biotics.

crippling slam is awesome. its basically just like bastion stasis. i love it on my infiltrator.

The majority of enemies have more health than any other form of protection so pull throw and singulairty are all great at setting up warp explosions, crowd controlling, or just killing stuff.  Warp is best when you can explode it and the only way to do that is to combine it with other biotics.  Pull throw, and singularity all stop stuff from shooitng at you which is another big plus.  Singularity works on all enimes regardless of protection so that gives it even bigger bonuses.

Biotics aren't useless its just that a lot of people don't figure out how to use them

enemies certainly dont have more health then other forms of protection on higher difficulties. its usually shields/barrier along with health, not to mention elites with armor as well.

biotics arent hard to figure out. there hard to use becasue of enemy protections. with all the protections on higher difficulties, biotics (CC abilities) become pointless.