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[Zeratul20]

Wolverfrog wrote...

How on Earth will the galaxy withstand the Reapers?

Well, probably not on Earth. *drumroll*

Sorry. Lame joke. On a more serious note, as long as we don't have to upload a Jolly Roger Virus into their mainframe to lower their shields, I'm sure it'll be fine.

[Arijharn]

Mcjon01 wrote...


I doubt the plot is going to revolve around finding a way to keep the Reapers from coming back yet again.  It's time to cover some new ground, ground that involves kicking their shiny robot asses.  Besides, it's not like the Reapers can possibly be so far out that they'd run out of fuel before reaching the galaxy by conventional means, since they would have had to use those conventional means to fly out to where the built the relay in the first place.

Besides, I'm not sure how successful "Plan Destroy a Relay" would even be.  The codex says they're made out of the same wondertanium alloy as the Citadel.  You know, the same Citadel that can stand up to several days of sustained dreadnaught fire from an entire fleet of ships before its defenses are compromised?  And don't forget how the Mu Relay came out the other side of a supernova without so much as a scratch.  The things are built to last.

To play Devil's advocate, we don't need to destroy the relay network, just disable them. Maybe we all need to build giant freeze guns?!

Seriously though, destroying/disabling the relays would be counter-intuitive imo. Sure you retard the progress of the Reapers, but you also defeat your own capabilities to respond to threats, which is the entire System's Alliance modus operandi (i.e only deployed at key relay points, as opposed to individual systems). Incidentally, it's painfully obvious that the Reapers can move independantly from a Relay otherwise (they'd have to travel point to point in some way to build them in the first place) and presumably they have the technological capacity because the entire concept about introducing the mass relay's is too make successive civilisations dependant on them, to 'evolve on pathways they desire.'

[Vaenier]

Gre3nham wrote...

We get on ships and FLY THE **** AWAY. And then the reapers will be like "where the hell did everyone go" and leave. The. We can come back, wait another 50 000 years and our technology will be good enough to kill dem reapers.

"In Star Control 3 it is revealed that to protect themselves from the Eternal Ones, a race that inefficiently consumed the energy of all sentient beings once an eon, the Precursors genetically modified themselves to mentally resemble the intelligence of a cow. They created mindless robots (the Daktaklakpak) to reverse the process after the Eternal Ones left. They also left huge caches of their technologies on planets in hopes other races could find how to defeat the Eternal Ones."

Could work. What could possible go wrong?

"During the last feeding, their robots malfunctioned, leaving them stranded at that intelligence level for thousands of years. Humans, forever searching for the Precursors but oblivious to their plight, along with many other races found the meat of the Precursors, called by them Ortogs (a 6-legged cow), more delicious than cow, and hence raised,domesticated, and consumed them in massive quantities."

Ya... hmmm

Modifié par Vaenier, 29 mars 2010 - 11:42 .

[Srau]

I don't think the galaxy will have to fight the reapers, i bet the storyline will be "find a way to prevent the invasion" or "find a superweapon to pwn them all at once".
A total war with reapers would be too big, not only for the council races but also for the game itself and finally it would be a storytelling nightmare for the writers.

Modifié par Srau, 29 mars 2010 - 11:32 .

[masterkajo]

I sure hope that Bioware consideres more than a good and bad ending. I would like to have the choice to like engange the entire fleet, "upload a virus", flee or even go through the citadel relay (to fight or run)... since there is no ME4 everyone could have their desired ending.

Anyway just give me some options and don't make them too cliche and obvious!!

[cj3style]

I hope that the reapers will transfer themselves into big reaper footsoldier things like geth primes so shepard can face of the reaper fleet personally on Earth. that wud be Schweeeeeeet

[X-Frame]

xI extremist Ix wrote...

Geth- possibly millions of boarding troops (Geth don't infiltrate) and millions of ships inside the Veil.
Rachni- rapid reproduction (possibly millions after two years) and already building a fleet.
Asari- Destiny Ascension, 20 dreadnoughts, Asari Commandos
Systems Alliance- 8 dreadnoughts, N7 marines
Turians- 39 dreadnoughts, largest fleet in galaxy and most disciplined
Salarians- 16 dreadnoughts, STG Units
Krogan- (Leadership of Urdnot Wrex), thousands of heavy troops to infiltrate Reaper Ship
Raloi- Shock Troopers, as they just discovered space travel)
Volus- No known fleet, but tons of credits

Plus the Sovereign and the Geth caught the Citadel Fleet of guard.

Oh I hope they do something like this (this pumped me up).  I want every race doing something specific to fight off the Reapers. Save the Rachni in ME1, save Morlan's data in ME2 to cure the Genophage, kill the heretic Geth, etc. to provide Shepard with the most badass army ever assembled.

The ending of ME2 was so epic and that was just with 1 little squad. I couldn't imagine the epicness if ME3's ending involved all those races helping Shepard.

[Hillbilly Lawya]

ME3 could open up with the Council forces having lost the first engagement. Fleets are scattered, races are hording their forces to protect their homeworlds. Shepherd has to gather the remaining forces, or what races will contribute, as well as recruit unlikely allies like the Rachni. Genophage is reversed to unleash the Krogan. Geth prove greater in number and able allies, unless you've convinced the quarians to engage them in a senseless side war. Perhaps even one race has destroyed their nearest mass relay hoping to slow down the progress of the Reapers to take their homeworld. Meanwhile, worlds are being harvested/destroyed, at least one Reaper is hunting Shepherd specifically, and you come out of a mass relay at least once to find a Reaper destroying the planet you needed to get vital information from.



All in all, it would be best if ME3 was darker and more desperate than the previous two. Defeating the Reapers should seem nigh-impossible, as well as a possible ending. Heck, could even throw in a Dune-like ending where you take some of your squad and go through a new mass relay to a different galaxy.

[GtarTravis]

Well, I don't know if you guys have noticed this small detail, but it definitely has been subtly been hinted at by the writers. Dark energy anyone? Tali's mission. Gianna Parasini mentions it. Remind me if there are other references to this. But all in all, Tali explains that dark energy is the reason why Haelstrom's star was aging. I don't know about you guys, but I am pretty sure a Reaper isnt as tough as a star - and if this dark energy is strong enough to kill a damn star... well...



Hmm.... I wonder what could happen if the citadel species harnessed this new-found power....



Idk that's just one of the theories I've heard around the board. Sounds pretty good to me... but please, correct me if I'm wrong. :]

[Zandercode]

I'd hope BioWare would come up with something creative and maybe even symbolic for the deafeat of the reapers. Simply fighting and destroying them, uploading a virus, finding a powerful ancient weapon, or trapping them would all be too easy and cliche' after all that "beyond your comprehension" and "the end of everything" talk. The reapers need to be truly unstoppable by normal means, and their defeat should tie back into the main themes of the series in some way.



If it were me writing the ending, I'd probably go with one of the more winning with a huge sacrifice type of endings. But it needs to be something symbolic that relates to the series main themes such as the blurred lines between organic and synthetic life, and what it truly means to be "alive." As well as the whole paragon/renegade "do the ends justify the means?" conflict.



For example, the paragon ending could involve choosing to fight the reapers to the very end, never giving in and "losing your humanity" to beat them. Ultimately the ending means the death of both the reapers and all the galaxy's inhabitants. The reasoning being that organic life will supposedly always replinish itself naturally (I guess evolution, not saying I believe in evolution or not, just saying that would sort of be the idea and the series has played with the concept a bit already) and therefore organic life will always endure longer than synthetic life because of this, making Sovereign's statement "we are the pinnacle of evolution" ironically false. Organic life itself will always be the "pinnacle", if you get what I mean. So this is the truly selfless paragon ending - you save the galaxy by paving the way for future species to live in freedom, but at the cost of everything and everyone you've ever known. Alternatively, from a religious or more specifically theism standpoint (again, I'm making no statements about my own views), instead of evolutionary one; you could still use the same concept and have Shepard sacrific everything, sort of like The Flood, only there is no Ark, instead, everything resets because of the sacrifice made, and God basically starts over. I guess you could say this was the rapture. They could write this ending in a way that it neither definitely supports either side (evolution vs. creationism) as to not be too controversial, the idea that you sacrifice everything for the sake of new future generations to live in freedom works either way.



And in the renegade ending, Shepard chooses to keep everything and everyone intact, but at the cost of all of their "humanity" (or "organicy" yes, I made up that word since I'm not exclusively talking about humans, aliens are included) by submitting to the reapers and becoming a sort of synthetic-organic hybrid just like the reapers are revielled to be in ME2, and what Saren was planning to do in ME1. So the entire galaxy becomes ignorant slaves with no thoughts of their own, indoctrinated to believe the reapers brought peace and happyness (ironic because happyness is an emotion to the reapers and it is questionable if any of them are still "alive." This also establishes a cycle for any new species to rise up naturally in the galaxy as they are all immediately enslaved and turned into synthetic-organic hybrids and integrated into the new galactic order of almost-mindless husks. As a cool chilling last scene, it could show a machine-Shepard following in line emotionlessly as an unknowing slave, then for just one second you see him give a look of sadness and regret... before going right back to his duties.

[Maria Caliban]

Wolverfrog wrote...
Thoughts?

I don't know, but I do know that a half-a-dozen writers at BioWare are asking themselves that exact same question right now.

[Time Lord 117]

Maybe we will travel back in time so that we can learn the secret  of Chuck Norris super kick, they will never see it coming until it is to late.  ../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png

[Manji187]

Hmm...perhaps through intelligent use of antimatter or some device that collapses space...creating a void in which nothing can exist. It will definitely be some trick involving technology...ancient or not.

[Tooneyman]

A planet sized nuke remember Issac newton is thy deadlies son of a BIC in space!

[knightnblu]

Hopefully, it will not end like Harry Potter with them tripping and falling on their own swords while Shepard just stands there looking amazed.Depending on your play, the migrant fleet and the Rachni will assist and whatever is left of the surviving Alliance and Citadel fleets from the Reaper beat down it took to convince the Turian Councilor that the Reapers are real and they really do have a fleet. Of course that would leave the Citadel a smoking ruin, but the Council made their choice.



Yet somehow, I can just hear the final words of that Turian Councilor as he says with his dying breath, "Ah...hakk...cough...Reapers, I should just dismiss them as a figment of my imagination...wheeze....choke....because Saren obviouly mind f***** me as well....gakk." Would I be surprised if he did? Not a bit.

[Mallissin]

Tooneyman wrote...

A planet sized nuke remember Issac newton is thy deadlies son of a BIC in space!

What? Isaac Newton didn't know about nuclear weapons. Woulda made more sense if you said "ASTEROID 2 TEH FACE!"

[knightnblu]

It isn't public knowledge, but Sir Isaac Newton actually succeded in his alchemical experiemts and developped the Philosopher's Stone. In reality, it was actulally him, and not Oppenheimer who developed the nuclear bomb at Los Alamos. I understand that he is working on a fusion reactor now.

[TrueHD]

The Reapers will retreat once they confirm the Dark Star Turian has moved away from the urinal.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

You won't fight anything.Right when it shows Shepard along with multiple fleets heading toward the reaper fleet the game ends.Then you get one of those endings were Shepard and everyone else will always be remembered for sacrificing themselves for the galaxy.



That leads into Mass Effect Universe (MMO).(then Everyone's pissed)

[smudboy]

There's Kirk vs Computers.  When Kirk confuses a machine called Landru into believing it must be destroyed (aka Logic Bomb.)

Or the John Sheridan method, aka, We're Big Kids Now ™.

BioWare will probably make some use of the Prothean Data/Cipher in Commander Shepard's head.

Or the more explosive solution.  Considering the main plot of ME2 was a Michael Bay movie, this seems more possible.

[Archereon]

Why do people think we're going to defeat the Reapers (at least defeat them permanently)?  If the Reapers, the greatest threat in the universe, get defeated, only to be replaced as ultimate bad guys in a new story arc that bioware pulls out of their arse, this becomes DBZ...

And to those who say ME will end with ME3...

Yes, the story arc will end, but there's no way in hell EA is going to let such a profitable IP end, despite the fact that they've promised not to meddle with bioware.  They're just going to keep milking it until demand for more goes away.

So that leaves two options...Prequels...Which carry the problem of the player not being allowed to have any major decisions that could potentially effect the canon of ME before ME1...Or games set in a time so distant in the future that Shepard's decisions are now for null...

[JazmanX]

By pure air quote dismissiles.



Or a space wizard.

[Commander_David]

wow guys give bioware some faith... they wont make a cheap cliche

[jamoau]

Commander_David wrote...

wow guys give bioware some faith... they wont make a cheap cliche

LOL, I find Shepard's resurrection a cheap cliche.