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[GuardianAngel470]

Barquiel wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

I know...but do you really think Thane never killed innocents?

He changed his ways after Irikah was murdered.

He was working for the hanar before Irikah, why would they have him kill innocents?

iirc...once he left the Hanar services, he went  freelance and after his wife was murdered he changed his ways (= he killed people who "deserved" it)

I was under the impression that he picked his targets. Like only accepted jobs to kill people that were bad.  He was woken from his battlesleep, wouldn't do much good if he went from doing benevolent assassinations for the hanar to freelancing and killing anything that moved.  Not exactly a momentous transformation.

[GuardianAngel470]

Collider wrote...

About serial killers. I was right in my definition. Serial killers don't [i]have[i] to have certain psychological traits as some would assume, I agree. I do think Morinth is horrible and deserves a bullet in the face.

That isn't the full definition. This is:definitions.uslegal.com/s/serial-killer/ There is more to serial killers than the average murderer.  I learned in Psych 101 that all serial killers have a partially developed frontal cortex, hindering their ability to feel sympathy and empathy.  That is why they are sadistic.

[GuardianAngel470]

bump.

[Chuvvy]

masseffectfan00 wrote...

I felt kinda sick in stomach even now after beating the game many times.  You're witnessing a murder right in your face with nothing else distracting you.  Plus that sound after one of them slam the others head into the ground makes it worse.

Are you kidding me? That made you sick? Jesus Christ...

[NoUserNameHere]

Morinth: "Good ridance."



Samara: "Wait... who would be stupid enough to pick that option!?"

[GuardianAngel470]

NoUserNameHere wrote...

Morinth: "Good ridance."

Samara: "Wait... who would be stupid enough to pick that option!?"

My brother picked it first playthrough so I am loath to call people stupid for it.  He definitely isn't stupid. 

[Eternal Density]

My feelings on the matter were, "Great, onto the next mission."

Oh, and I guess there was a bit of, "We've managed to avenge poor Nef" too.
[edit] One of these days I'll kill Samara, for completeness and so I have access to Dominate.

Modifié par Eternal Density, 30 mars 2010 - 03:25 .

[Wildecker]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Collider wrote...

About serial killers. I was right in my definition. Serial killers don't have[i] to have certain psychological traits as some would assume, I agree. I do think Morinth is horrible and deserves a bullet in the face.

That isn't the full definition. This is:definitions.uslegal.com/s/serial-killer/ There is more to serial killers than the average murderer.  I learned in Psych 101 that all serial killers have a partially developed frontal cortex, hindering their ability to feel sympathy and empathy.  That is why they are sadistic.

If you're going for the scientific angle, please add the word "human" - "all [i]human serial killers have ..." - because until we have a fair amount of samples on Asari anatomy, they might have no frontal cortex at all. No matter how they call the different parts of their head's interior.

[GuardianAngel470]

Wildecker wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Collider wrote...

About serial killers. I was right in my definition. Serial killers don't have[i] to have certain psychological traits as some would assume, I agree. I do think Morinth is horrible and deserves a bullet in the face.

That isn't the full definition. This is:definitions.uslegal.com/s/serial-killer/ There is more to serial killers than the average murderer.  I learned in Psych 101 that all serial killers have a partially developed frontal cortex, hindering their ability to feel sympathy and empathy.  That is why they are sadistic.

If you're going for the scientific angle, please add the word "human" - "all [i]human serial killers have ..." - because until we have a fair amount of samples on Asari anatomy, they might have no frontal cortex at all. No matter how they call the different parts of their head's interior.

We've already gotten past making comparisons to morinth, now we're discussing the nature of serial killers.  However, it is stated in game that Ardat Yakshi do not properly develop empathy, which is a parallel to real world serial killers. While the reason is different, neither of them develop proper empathy, a cardinal symptom/sign of a serial killer.

[GodWood]

NoUserNameHere wrote...
Samara: "Wait... who would be stupid enough to pick that option!?"

A person who Samara wants to kill.

[BlueOasisDesign]

That part didn't really hit me that hard...



The part that made me squirm was seeing Yeoman Chambers liquified... O.O

[TheLostGenius]

When Samara died...I felt aroused and confused by Morinth. She was very sexful and smart and nice to me, so I let her kill Samara. No guilt. I did what was right. Morinth told me to tell you this.

[AKFTF]

GodWood wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...
Samara: "Wait... who would be stupid enough to pick that option!?"

A person who Samara wants to kill.

I could never kill Samara. Not even in a Renegade playthrough.

[TheLostGenius]

BlueOasisDesign wrote...

That part didn't really hit me that hard...

The part that made me squirm was seeing Yeoman Chambers liquified... O.O

Yea that was such a massive LOL. So melodramatic. If a person was being liquified by aliens using scary alien technology they wouldn't act all silly and happy like Kelly.

Modifié par TheLostGenius, 30 mars 2010 - 05:42 .

[BlueOasisDesign]

TheLostGenius wrote...

BlueOasisDesign wrote...

That part didn't really hit me that hard...

The part that made me squirm was seeing Yeoman Chambers liquified... O.O

Yea that was such a massive LOL. So melodramatic. If a person was being liquified by aliens using scary alien technology they wouldn't act all silly and happy like Kelly.

I must have missed her acting happy and silly in between her screaming and her face melting all over the glass....

*curls up in the corner and rocks back and forth*

[TheLostGenius]

BlueOasisDesign wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

BlueOasisDesign wrote...

That part didn't really hit me that hard...

The part that made me squirm was seeing Yeoman Chambers liquified... O.O

That ISN'T happy and silly!? Welcome to life.

Yea that was such a massive LOL. So melodramatic. If a person was being liquified by aliens using scary alien technology they wouldn't act all silly and happy like Kelly.

I must have missed her acting happy and silly in between her screaming and her face melting all over the glass....

*curls up in the corner and rocks back and forth*

[ZOMBO6F]

I've only read about halfway through this thread so if I parrot an already made point,apologies.Samara never says she will kill a cop to escape custody,the officer says if in order to escape cops must be killed that samara would do it.Samara is not being detained for a murder investigation,she is being detained to prevent a political incident where a non-Asari may (or may not)be killed by her.Since,in effect the Justicar code is infallible in the eyes of the Asari,if Samara is being detained than the people detaining her must be corrupt and it is within her rights to escape.

[Gocad]

I only felt bad when I allowed Morinth to kill Samara....but I had to do it because Dominance is such a nice skill.
And I did reload the game to replay the mission with the proper outcome.

I would say that the scene loses its shocking effect after you have seen it for the first time, especially when you get to hear the whole(?) story from Samara aboard the Normandy. 

[ZOMBO6F]

I'm one of those that will have to replay many times in order to be jaded enough(just speaking for myself here,no judgment of others intended)to save mordin over samara.

[Gammalfarmor]

I feel sorry for them both. It's a very tragic story.

[tanarri23]

Morinth and Samara are effectively the same thing with a different motivation. You may see Samara's ruthless justice as morally superior to Morinth's feeding of her addiction, but both have chosen to live the way they do, killed a lot of people and will continue to kill people without remorse or hesitation. Samara does have a bit of an emotional advantage in that you meet her first, get to know her and her story, but to to be honest, I don't feel particularly sorry for either - a little uncertain why Shepard should pick a wildcard killer he/she doesn't know over a code-bound killer who has sworn to follow him/her, yes, but not sorry.

Modifié par tanarri23, 30 mars 2010 - 11:41 .