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Nothing tells them what they are doing is good, they aren't schizophrenic. We are arguing two sides of the same coin with the addiction point and that will go no where so I'm not even going to try. You're right and I'm right, that's the gist of it.GothamLord wrote...
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Ok, all very good points. My understanding of Serial killers is that their frontal cortex isn't fully developed. That doesn't mean that they are less in control of their actions then the average joe and it doesn't mean that they are unstable, just that they aren't fully developed. I think I centered on the literal interpretation of the word unstable coming from someone who suffers from a mental disorder that has influenced my behavior in ways beyond my control. Unstable is where you do things beyond your control. Where your actions are unpredictable and can often defy reason. Serial killers are predictable once you know enough about them. Their actions do not defy reason per se. Defy common decency, morality, yes, but typically not reason. There is often a logical reason that a serial killer is killing. Whether it is to right perceived wrongs or injustices like Jack the Ripper or something else. Their actions can be plotted as following logic. twisted logic that is often horrifying, but logic all the same.
Addiction is a weak justification for murder in any sense because addictions can be overcome. Any and all addiction in the real world can be overcome. Now Samara does tell you that Morinth can't overcome her addiction but this may be a case where someone uses a word and doesn't mean its full definition. It is possible that she doesn't mean that it is impossible to overcome her addiction but rather that it is highly improbable, even extremely difficult, to do so, something morinth may or may not be willing to attempt. This use of the word is extremely common and would be believable in this context.
*Note in killing I am talking about the taking of human life, not animals being butchered for the use of food.
Unstable might not be the correct word usage on my point. Personally I see two mental conditions that are "normal" when taking a life Regret or Fear. Both of those can come from self-defense (be it your own or that of another person) or accidental. The other comings from duty to the law or country such as fighting in a war or capital punishment. Anything beyond that such as pleasure or "good" emotions are normally not right in the head. I use unstable as its going against the normal human condition. I'm not a trained medical doctor or a psychologist so my proper definitions are most likely lacking.
Serial killers are very much in control of their normal daily actions. There is something in their head. Be it the frontal cortex development or some other brain abnormality, that tells them what they are doing is "justified" or "good". Its logical to them, doesnt mean its logical to anyone else. Morinth killing is logical to her.
Mass Effect Wiki - Ardat Yakshi
The condition is impossible to identify until the asari reaches maturity, by which time it is too late to correct. When diagnosed, afflicted asari are given a choice: live in quiet seclusion or be executed. Asari do this because it is an addictive condition; Ardat-Yakshi feel compelled to mate, a compulsion that grows stronger each time they succeed.
It is a very addictive condition. Morinth is compelled to mate. After 400 years of a continued downhill skid it doesnt really seem like anything more than swatting a fly to her. We dont get to see or hear about her much 400 years ago. We only get to see the end result on Omega. Can she overcome the addiction? We'll never know if we have Samara kill her. If Morinth survives well its another story that is yet untold.
I would agree that the live in seclusion or be executed is pretty cold. I mean, you can live a normal life with a disease like that, it's like having an STD. If you care about not infecting others then you either abstain or protect. In Morinth's case she can't protect, so she must abstain. She chose not to however, and instead actively pursued killing from the get go, making her in the wrong. She chose to kill when the high she got could be ignored and the addiction broken.
Because her actions conflict with the rights of others, which is what all laws are meant to stop, then she has broken the law by any standard, and the degree to which she has done it dictates how severe her punishment is. She has litterally killed thousands, or forced others to kill, ie Samara's village story, and if sentencing a serial killer who has killed maybe a dozen is justified (which can be debated) then Morinth's punishment must equal or surpass that. In truth, true justice would be to make her feel the pain of the people she killed and the families of those people. That isn't socially acceptable, so I'll settle for the death penalty. Letting her live at all would be an affront to justice, no matter what sympathy can be afforded to her (which is a lot it must be said), she deserves to die for her actions. If you disagree with the death penalty then this discussion will go nowhere, we disagree fundamentally on something that neither of us will change.
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people who attacked her, ie that village. She killed for a just reason, either self-defense of protection of the defenseless. How does that make her a morally bankrupt person? I really want to know your justification for that statement.
