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[Bron Avery]

Ah yes, "Husk". The race of electronically controlled human zombies made by the Reapers. We have dismissed that claim.

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

Sina84 wrote...
It's not a mystery why they chose humans. They make it quite clear throughout the game that humans are the most suitable species for Reaperdom.

That's what Reapers do every 50 000 years. They come back and pick the
best species going to make a new Reaper out of. And they didn't just target humans. They have been collected and experimenting on all life for quite a while to see which was the best one. It was only after they decided on sticking with humans that the mass-liquifying started.

alot of people are saying its obviouse husks were humans and reapers were kidnapping humans but that fact didnt come into light untill the very last mission in ME2. theres no mention of reapers kidnapping species in order to liquify them into huge reapers, let alone specializing in the all mighty human goo.

maybe i missed something but if its not a mystery, then why did they choose humans?

also if reapers are supposed to be the pinnacle of evolution, why did they make such easy targets as the collectors. wouldnt the collectors be created to be ultimate warriors with crazy pwerful and advanced weapons and near imposible to kill?? the collectors arent as scary as they should be. (just another observation)

Modifié par The Spamming Troll part 2, 01 avril 2010 - 05:28 .

[ImperialOperative]

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...
alot of people are saying its obviouse husks were humans and reapers were kidnapping humans but that fact didnt come into light untill the very last mission in ME2. theres no mention of reapers kidnapping species in order to liquify them into huge reapers, let alone specializing in the all mighty human goo.

maybe i missed something but if its not a mystery, then why did they choose humans?

also if reapers are supposed to be the pinnacle of evolution, why did they make such easy targets as the collectors. wouldnt the collectors be created to be ultimate warriors with crazy pwerful and advanced weapons and near imposible to kill?? the collectors arent as scary as they should be. (just another observation)

[ImperialOperative]

PS: the Collectors have HUGE ships with advanced hyper-laser weapons and instant stun poisons, and they base is located in the middle of black holes, and has various super laser bots guarding it, and a billion insta stun bugs, and the base is physically miles long.

[Darth Drago]

Sina84 wrote...

It's not a mystery why they chose humans. They make it quite clear throughout the game that humans are the most suitable species for Reaperdom.

That's what Reapers do every 50 000 years. They come back and pick the
best species going to make a new Reaper out of. And they didn't just target humans. They have been collected and experimenting on all life for quite a while to see which was the best one. It was only after they decided on sticking with humans that the mass-liquifying started.

Choosing humans as the next replacement to the Protheans was way to obvious in ME2, at least for me and not just because of the end boss. Just listen or better read (subtitles on) Mordin’s dialog in his loyalty mission.

That still doesn’t explain why we don’t see husks of other races, unless there were no nonhumans at any of these places. Even still it would have been nice to see a few from other races. With them in the game, ME2 feels a lot like Resident Evil and with a crew of so many alien species on it I think there should have been some alien husks. This would reinforce the fact that the Reaper threat affects all the big races in the galaxy as well.

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

ImperialOperative wrote...

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...
alot of people are saying its obviouse husks were humans and reapers were kidnapping humans but that fact didnt come into light untill the very last mission in ME2. theres no mention of reapers kidnapping species in order to liquify them into huge reapers, let alone specializing in the all mighty human goo.

maybe i missed something but if its not a mystery, then why did they choose humans?

also if reapers are supposed to be the pinnacle of evolution, why did they make such easy targets as the collectors. wouldnt the collectors be created to be ultimate warriors with crazy pwerful and advanced weapons and near imposible to kill?? the collectors arent as scary as they should be. (just another observation)

that made my day man. sweet.

can somebody please please please photoshop a collectors head on the ultimate warrior here!!!!

[Sina84]

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

Sina84 wrote...
It's not a mystery why they chose humans. They make it quite clear throughout the game that humans are the most suitable species for Reaperdom.

That's what Reapers do every 50 000 years. They come back and pick the best species going to make a new Reaper out of. And they didn't just target humans. They have been collected and experimenting on all life for quite a while to see which was the best one. It was only after they decided on sticking with humans that the mass-liquifying started.

alot of people are saying its obviouse husks were humans

They pretty much explain step by step how impaled humans get turned into husks in ME1 during the very first mission of the game. People are just kind of puzzled why you see this as such a revelation.

The reason you've only seen human husks is because the collectors most likely only started experimenting with husks after going on the offensive with their mass abductions, and they had an abundance of humans to work with. Before that they did all their collecting discreetly and small scale, and had no need for an army.

It's most likely just a time/money issue on Biowares part why we've only seen human husk models, but atleast they've explained it storywise by simply writing it so that so far only humans have been unlucky enough to encounter random dragon's teeth. And that Sovereign's dragon's teeth were distributed by Saren, who hated humans specifically. That doesn't mean other species couldn't get turned into husks. The original Protheans had husks too.

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

and reapers were kidnapping humans but that fact didnt come into light untill the very last mission in ME2. theres no mention of reapers kidnapping species in order to liquify them into huge reapers, let alone specializing in the all mighty human goo.

maybe i missed something but if its not a mystery, then why did they
choose humans?

It's alluded to during the entire game that humans are special and targetted for a reason. It is a mystery, yes, but one that is explained. EDI says it herself that Reapers choose a worthy species every 50k year cycle. But don't take my word for it.

Harbinger says:

Quarian: Concidered due to cybernetic augmentation. Weakened immune system too debilitating.
Drell: Useless; insufficient numbers.
Asari: Reliance upon alien species for reproduction shows genetic weakness.
Salarian: Insufficient lifespan. Fragile genetic structure.
Geth: An annoyance. Limited utility.
Krogan: Sterilized race. Potential wasted.
Turian: You are concidered too primitive.
Human: Viable possibility. Aggression factor useful if controlled.
Human: Viable possibility. Impressive genetic malleability.
Human: Viable possibility. Impressive technical potential.
Human: Viable possibility. If emotial drives are subjucated.
Human: Viable possibility. Great biotic potential.

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

also if reapers are supposed to be the pinnacle of evolution, why did they make such easy targets as the collectors. wouldnt the collectors be created to be ultimate warriors with crazy pwerful and advanced weapons and near imposible to kill?? the collectors arent as scary as they should be. (just another observation)

Well, they aren't meant to fight wars, they're meant to collect people and build a Reaper. And if Cerberus hadn't contracted probably the smartest scientist in the world to create a countermeasure for the seeker-swarms, you wouldn't be able to make a dent, since the moment you landed on horizon you would've been paralized.

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

ach i guess i dont remember a 30 second convo i had on eden prime back in '07.



im sure some people could assume husks were humans but with the infinite possibilities in the galaxy, you can only hypothesize that all the husks were actually humans, let alone humans intentionally abducted by reapers.



also didnt the humans just really recently get access to the galactic whatever. wasnt it like only 100 years ago in the timeline that humans were actually "found" er they found the element zero on the moon or whatever....i cant remember exactly. but if they are so new then how would the reapers target a species that isnt even as evolved physically as asari, or mentally as salarians? especially since theyve been around alot longer then humans. sure you could say humans have alot of potential, but making a ship to "capture every human in the terminus system" doesnt seem like a decision youd make based on potential alone. its not like the reapers saw cavemen and said "**** it these guys are idiots" then 50000 years later say, well maybe we CAN do something with humans. they would have seen the potential then as well.



you believe everything harbinger says??? when we first met sovereign on virmire he was talking alot of smack too.



my point on this topic wasnt questioning the reapers motives with humans tho. i simply came to the realization that every husk, scion, protorean that i saw, was made from huamsn, like me and you. thats disturbing to me. maybe most people in here are a little more desensitized then me having playted zombie shooters or whatever.



not really a big deal anymore tho. im over it.

[Sina84]

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

ach i guess i dont remember a 30 second convo i had on eden prime back in '07.

Did you also miss the conversation about the first husks you meet on Horizon in ME2?
Do you have some sort of story comprehension problem?

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

im sure some people could assume husks were humans but with the infinite possibilities in the galaxy, you can only hypothesize that all the husks were actually humans, let alone humans intentionally abducted by reapers.

They look human, and the first husks you encountered were human, and it's likely Bioware only made human husk models. You know what occam's razor is?

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

also didnt the humans just really recently get access to the galactic whatever. wasnt it like only 100 years ago in the timeline that humans were actually "found" er they found the element zero on the moon or whatever....i cant remember exactly. but if they are so new then how would the reapers target a species that isnt even as evolved physically as asari, or mentally as salarians? especially since theyve been around alot longer then humans. sure you could say humans have alot of potential, but making a ship to "capture every human in the terminus system" doesnt seem like a decision youd make based on potential alone. its not like the reapers saw cavemen and said "**** it these guys are idiots" then 50000 years later say, well maybe we CAN do something with humans. they would have seen the potential then as well.

Erm, you seem to forget that 50 000 years ago the Reapers irradicated ALL technologically advanced life, so Asari, Turians and Salarians were primitive back then too. They left all the "idiots" as you call them for 50 000 years to see which species showed the best potential. That was the whole point. Then run tests and observations on all organic species and pick the most suitable one for liquifying; in this case humans.

The humans came late, yes, but maybe the Asari etc developed their tech faster because they didn't have as many wars, or religions to hamper scientific progress, or a dark age or any number of luck based reasons, or maybe simply because their Mass Relay wasn't on the outer edge of the solar system incased in ice. Whatever the history, all that matters to Reapers is where the races stand by the time of the harvest, and a human killed one of them, which should count for something.

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

you believe everything harbinger says???

Eh... yes? He says he wants humans, and he proves it by kidnapping humans. What exactly is he lying about? You're unbelievable. What the hell are you talking about?

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

belittling me must feel pretty good to most of you commenting in here. you seem to not get enough of it. oh ye of great mass effect knowledge!



no, i didnt pay attention, notice, remember, skipped over it, didnt play the game 10 times, whatever it may be, obviously. im looking for information, not smart ass know it alls.



im pretty sure i picked up occams razor in fallout3. i think it was a unique combat knife.....



do you people get off on acting like this? i hope you clean up when your done.



theres alot of jerks in here. whats up with that??? you play a video game and post comments on a forum......your not tiger woods here. idiot.

[Sajuro]

........ aren't you overreacting?

[scotty062295]

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

your not tiger woods here. idiot.

lol wut?

[scotty062295]

The Spamming Troll part 2 wrote...

im pretty sure i picked up occams razor in fallout3. i think it was a unique combat knife.....

.

And the reason it is named Occam's Razor is...? Most unique items in Bethesda games are references to something. It's a theory that the most simple and easily comprehended solution is the best one, if I haven't gone brain-dead yet.

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

Sajuro wrote...

........ aren't you overreacting?

compared to what? someone calling me a moron for not knowing husks were humans or someone writing a book trying to convince everyone that i am a troll?

atleast i know how to play tiddly winks.

[CTM1]

Trolls are a problem on this forum, sir. Your name, topic and general attitude make it hard for people to take anything you say seriously.

The forum takes it as a given certain facts. Husks being human is one of them. Making a topic on it then, is going to annoy people. The forum has recently run into a few successful trolls on stuff like this, so many are on their guard.

If you want to redeem yourself, I'd address those pointing out the obviousness of your topic, and stop posting in it, because your concerns have been largely covered. Husks are humans, there's no ethical dilemma killing them, and the human Reaper, that thing built in part from human beings that have been turned into goo (meaning they're dead), was built for nefarious purposes, and is trying to kill you. Frankly, it's obnoxious to try and create an ethical dilemma here - which is in no small part the reason why people are hostile with you. It's part of the troll's toolkit.

You've already said earlier that you've moved on; that you're "over it". So move on. Prove you're not a troll, and let this thread die. Take your concern with certain users to PMs.

Modifié par CTM1, 03 avril 2010 - 03:02 .

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

i wish i could.



i wish you could too.

[LPPrince]

The Ultimate Warrior on the ME boards.



Thought I'd never see the day.

[Sina84]

Oh for f...

Listen, The Spamming Troll Part 2. You're asking questions, and you're given answers to your questions. But if you phrase your questions in a confrontational, annoyed manner you should expect confrontational and annoyed responses. But you're not really asking questions, are you? You're just trying to (inaccurately) point out everything that doesn't make sense with the story. But why point out and complain about "faults" in the story when you - under your own admission - didn't even pay attention to the story? And to top it off, you call me, who went out of my way to answer your stupid questions, an **** for answering them?

[The Spamming Troll part 2]

no YOU listen......



actually i started off with a realization that husks were humans, that turned to questions about why husks were humans, that turned to defending my topics value to this forum, that turned into arguments about pointless things, that turned into the ultimate warrior.



who cares? im gonna go kill some more krogans!

[archurban]

well, you didn't know that? I think that you'd better read novel first. Geth actually have started to make husk first. it's powerful biotic weapon. husks are synthetic zombies.

[binaryemperor]

I feel worse for headcrab zombies. The left 4 dead zombies are kind of saddening too.

[Keltoris]

I would like to change the emphasis in your title from "Husks were HUMAN" to "Husks WERE Human".



in Half Life 2 Overwatch were human, not all of them volunteered, but you still blast them away without remorse.



"Better dead than smeg." - Arnold Rimmer

[archurban]

zombies in left 4 dead is unreal. I don't understand why these damn zombies are moving so faster when they find the target? the game is fun but is lame.

[Dimartica]

Naughty Bear wrote...

Woah! Wait! I've been killing Humans?!







What are Human's?

Humans.... ARE BLIGHT ON GALACTIC PURITY!

[Zanramon]

How did the Cerberus crew get turned into Husks. I know you can see them on the dragon teeth far off the ground but how did they get up there?