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[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

And as I watch video from PAX East, somebody ask for co-op (and he probably mean that if his friend is playing, that it would be possible to join) and he receive relative big applause (and no anti-reaction like moo or some form of disagree). So another sign there is demand for sharing story with friend(s)? Think economical-if I have family or just girlfriend/boyfriend (who also love RPG, mostly fantasy) will I choose-buy RPG with co-op or without co-op?(btw-true is that I finished Dragon Age 2 recently, but only because I was having issue with one of my two computers, I was unable to play LOTRO (and still can´t) with my father and I haven´t no co-op RPG for Playstation 3 (everything others what was close to RPGs genre we have already finished)).

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 28 avril 2012 - 01:34 .

[Huntress]

BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs wrote...

Okay,I have great idea-make two version of Dragon Age 3-one without co-op (really only singleplayer) and one with co-op (call it for example Co-op edition, but I want be sure that I can go throught singleplayer portion of version without co-op). You can develop co-op version longer or it can be more expensive, it doesn´t matter to me. But I want in that co-op version be able to go throught all possible singleplayer story,it s clear? Singleplayer players can say nothing, because they have their exclusive singleplayer version and if somebody is against, then he is in my opinion selfish. Co-op players would have also what they want and everyone is happy, or not? In EA you must have many developers, so if it too much on one team, take two teams.

You will pay bioware to make 2 games exactly the same but one with multiplayer option and another without it? good! I have no objections go ahead.

Do you really want to know how many players who visit this sites want to see multiplayers in da3, MAKE poll about it.
ps: Do not forget to foward the result to bioware and EA.

Modifié par Huntress, 28 avril 2012 - 04:29 .

[Grifter Hawke]

I love DA is perfect all the entire game.
DA2... well its not bad, but is not good 2...
for me... is better DA+DLC than DA2+DLC
2 days ago i watch the 34min of video for the "presentation" for DA3.
And i play skyrim two (when i finish all DA1, DA2, ME2, ME3)
ok what i mean?
I want DA3 with the graphic of skyrim, with the gameplay like skyrim.

Is more real take a horse and go to the part of the map what u want.
("warp" with the map with one click is boring, u can take some challenge with dragons or some1 in the path)
take off the system of play pause if ur in problems, coze in real life u cant take pause to make a decision...

make the game in two sides like: become grey warden or follow the champion and get diferents storys if u choose Hawke or GreyWardens call...
mix something like u can buy a house...
things like merry with lelyana or search morrigan... for male
for female merry with Alistair...
i think we need a game with more hours to play not like DA2 u can finish DA2 in 14 hours...
more Dragons coze is a Dragon Age...
more difficult decisions...
i love DA then when i play skirym, i imagine my Grey Warden running for skyrim :S lol
something like that is good for DA3 but skyrim is to short (if u play just the story)
try to make something diferent with our old companions
cyaaa

[Woobels]

Grifter Hawke wrote...

I love DA is perfect all the entire game.
DA2... well its not bad, but is not good 2...
for me... is better DA+DLC than DA2+DLC
2 days ago i watch the 34min of video for the "presentation" for DA3.
And i play skyrim two (when i finish all DA1, DA2, ME2, ME3)
ok what i mean?
I want DA3 with the graphic of skyrim, with the gameplay like skyrim.

Is more real take a horse and go to the part of the map what u want.
("warp" with the map with one click is boring, u can take some challenge with dragons or some1 in the path)
take off the system of play pause if ur in problems, coze in real life u cant take pause to make a decision...

make the game in two sides like: become grey warden or follow the champion and get diferents storys if u choose Hawke or GreyWardens call...
mix something like u can buy a house...
things like merry with lelyana or search morrigan... for male
for female merry with Alistair...
i think we need a game with more hours to play not like DA2 u can finish DA2 in 14 hours...
more Dragons coze is a Dragon Age...
more difficult decisions...
i love DA then when i play skirym, i imagine my Grey Warden running for skyrim :S lol
something like that is good for DA3 but skyrim is to short (if u play just the story)
try to make something diferent with our old companions
cyaaa

What did I just read?

[wsandista]

Grifter Hawke wrote...

I love DA is perfect all the entire game.
DA2... well its not bad, but is not good 2...
for me... is better DA+DLC than DA2+DLC
2 days ago i watch the 34min of video for the "presentation" for DA3.
And i play skyrim two (when i finish all DA1, DA2, ME2, ME3)
ok what i mean?
I want DA3 with the graphic of skyrim, with the gameplay like skyrim.

Is more real take a horse and go to the part of the map what u want.
("warp" with the map with one click is boring, u can take some challenge with dragons or some1 in the path)
take off the system of play pause if ur in problems, coze in real life u cant take pause to make a decision...

make the game in two sides like: become grey warden or follow the champion and get diferents storys if u choose Hawke or GreyWardens call...
mix something like u can buy a house...
things like merry with lelyana or search morrigan... for male
for female merry with Alistair...
i think we need a game with more hours to play not like DA2 u can finish DA2 in 14 hours...
more Dragons coze is a Dragon Age...
more difficult decisions...
i love DA then when i play skirym, i imagine my Grey Warden running for skyrim :S lol
something like that is good for DA3 but skyrim is to short (if u play just the story)
try to make something diferent with our old companions
cyaaa

What is this nonsense?

[naomis8329]

Just finished reading Asunder and if the book is based on that (includes and uses it and DA2) then the game will be huge and a massive success.  With there being wardens, mages, templars and seekers in it I'm totally hooked. Friends old and new the book was amazing.

I just hope that the new game includes all those things we had in DAO and more, being able to call upon old companions and friends as well as new ones would be a bonus and a proper romancing system like we had in DAO.  Also can we have Cullen, Jowan and possibly Anders (if we left him alive in 2).  Things need ending properly and hopefully they will this time.

Gosh my wish list is huge, maybe I should email Mr Gaider and be damned lol:happy:

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

Huntress wrote...

BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs wrote...

Okay,I have great idea-make two version of Dragon Age 3-one without co-op (really only singleplayer) and one with co-op (call it for example Co-op edition, but I want be sure that I can go throught singleplayer portion of version without co-op). You can develop co-op version longer or it can be more expensive, it doesn´t matter to me. But I want in that co-op version be able to go throught all possible singleplayer story,it s clear? Singleplayer players can say nothing, because they have their exclusive singleplayer version and if somebody is against, then he is in my opinion selfish. Co-op players would have also what they want and everyone is happy, or not? In EA you must have many developers, so if it too much on one team, take two teams.

You will pay bioware to make 2 games exactly the same but one with multiplayer option and another without it? good! I have no objections go ahead.

Do you really want to know how many players who visit this sites want to see multiplayers in da3, MAKE poll about it.
ps: Do not forget to foward the result to bioware and EA.

You know, it is quite hard. Okay, you can ignore people who want co-op in singleplayer story and just make only singleplayer RPG. But then you give chance to others RPGs which have possibility of co-op in singleplayer story to take your place. And you are still in catch 22 (still rounding the same thing) - singleplayer player will be happiest, but some will be still be very unhappy and you say these people - go away, we don´t care about you, you have desire to experience that story and just together complete all the game - you are crazy?Too much work, too much. And I say-okay, as you think, I won´t buy game for full price and just wait as it will cost for example 10$-20$, and instead your game I will look if  there isn´t something else (where i can do some co-op in main story) (and you can bet that there is always someone, who use that you haven´t that posibility). Yes, with Mass Effect 3 Bioware introduce co-op and sometimes in future I will maybe try it, but it is still strange. What change to me (and for some of others), which hope in co-op support also for singleplayer story? Yes, we have some mode, which you can still named co-op mode, but do you think I will have mood to do almost same things as I was doing in singleplayer? No, I am quite conviced that if I will over with singleplayer part of Mass Effect 3 (as I sometimes in future will be playing thar singleplayer), try one-two matches and move to another game (to completed that another game) . It is quite funny - co-op in Mass Effect 3 is not story driven, but Battlefield 3 (which is ´only´ simple 3D action) have his own dedicted co-op campaign with some sort of  story

So how do you suggest we should resolve situaton between people who want story co-op support (best if it would be in main campaign) and people, who hate co-op (any idea of it?).

And look on my voting poll-most people don´t vote, so what we really want? I don´t believe they don´t care about possibilty of co-op in DA 3, but it look like that. I know what I want - be able to play strong story RPG with my father. Together, in same time. But what other 123 people who don´t vote in voting poll? I don´t know, And 18 votes is just very small number with compare with 123 who don´t vote. And that 18 votes isn´t 100% from that voting poll.

Okay, I know that there are some other singleplayer RPGs which should deserve co-op support in singleplayer story, but I think if Bioware do it (story co-op campaign/co-op in main story-campaign), others will follow. And it is just little shame there must be others, who are showing that it can be done (Obsidian, Snowblind),althought the result isn´t always perfect, but atleast they try to include co-op in singleplayer story

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 13 mai 2012 - 06:16 .

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

Grifter Hawke wrote...

I love DA is perfect all the entire game.
DA2... well its not bad, but is not good 2...
for me... is better DA+DLC than DA2+DLC
2 days ago i watch the 34min of video for the "presentation" for DA3.
And i play skyrim two (when i finish all DA1, DA2, ME2, ME3)
ok what i mean?
I want DA3 with the graphic of skyrim, with the gameplay like skyrim.

Is more real take a horse and go to the part of the map what u want.
("warp" with the map with one click is boring, u can take some challenge with dragons or some1 in the path)
take off the system of play pause if ur in problems, coze in real life u cant take pause to make a decision...

make the game in two sides like: become grey warden or follow the champion and get diferents storys if u choose Hawke or GreyWardens call...
mix something like u can buy a house...
things like merry with lelyana or search morrigan... for male
for female merry with Alistair...
i think we need a game with more hours to play not like DA2 u can finish DA2 in 14 hours...
more Dragons coze is a Dragon Age...
more difficult decisions...
i love DA then when i play skirym, i imagine my Grey Warden running for skyrim :S lol
something like that is good for DA3 but skyrim is to short (if u play just the story)
try to make something diferent with our old companions
cyaaa

Dragon Age like Skyrim? I would rather stay was/is working two previous games. I just like how Dragon Age:Origins do it-it has very impressive game time, but you wasn´t in any part of game bored, game was very Ifluent and you just don´t feel you are still doing same thing or quest. But when you have some very long RPG, 
I would say that it can´t sweep you along as this more closed RPGs (I don´t play Skyrim yet (because of many others game), but I play Sacred 2 which have game time similar to Skyrim and after some time I was begin losing overview about main story and have little chaos in quests, but with Dragon Age:Origins/Dungeon Siege 3/LOTR-War in North it was quite opposite situation-most of time it was clear what next and story have really more compact feeling (and for me that is always good)).

But with some things I agree-for example with longer game time (but I think suffficient would be same lenght as have Dragon Age-Origins - approximately 70 hours), possible of marying with companion is also interesting idea, more dragons-maybe but if there would be Grey Warden or Hawke, I suggest some very short scenes or 30 minute or 1 hour long passage, when you meet with both characters (imported from your save(s)) and then you go your own way

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 12 mai 2012 - 04:17 .

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

Huntress wrote...

BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs wrote...

Okay,I have great idea-make two version of Dragon Age 3-one without co-op (really only singleplayer) and one with co-op (call it for example Co-op edition, but I want be sure that I can go throught singleplayer portion of version without co-op). You can develop co-op version longer or it can be more expensive, it doesn´t matter to me. But I want in that co-op version be able to go throught all possible singleplayer story,it s clear? Singleplayer players can say nothing, because they have their exclusive singleplayer version and if somebody is against, then he is in my opinion selfish. Co-op players would have also what they want and everyone is happy, or not? In EA you must have many developers, so if it too much on one team, take two teams.

You will pay bioware to make 2 games exactly the same but one with multiplayer option and another without it? good! I have no objections go ahead.

Do you really want to know how many players who visit this sites want to see multiplayers in da3, MAKE poll about it.
ps: Do not forget to foward the result to bioware and EA.

So I am still waiting for you suggest - and I again ask:
So how do you suggest we should resolve situaton between people who want story co-op support (best if it would be in main campaign) and people, who hate co-op (any idea of it?).


I see only three option-allowed co-op in singleplayer game, then what I write above and at the end some story mode which will be included with the game. Do you see another possibility? Yes, you can ignore them (who want co-op support in main campaign), but then you can lose them (or they money for your whole 60$ new game , because they will invest their money into RPG which has support of story co-op) - or they will just begin ignore games from that company and they will wait as price will be 10$-20$ or just pirated your games (it so easy to click on one link and if it haven´t story co-op and competitive multiplayer isn´t for me(or I have already hooked in some other - or competitive multiplayer don´t say me anything), and it is only singleplayer, what I am planning to play, so there isn´t really need to have two original copy, maybe not any original copy (but with possible story co-op?), and you know human nature-and this is all said theoretical, I am personally against piracy but you know how it is going in reality)  - when they are not listening, why I support them? And we (or you) suffer also - singleplayer gamers because there will be less money for developed great singleplayer experience, dialogues, scenes and everything, because less sold copies

Watch for example situation about Diablo 3-I think it will have great sucess and I am really thinking about two copies for full price. And do you think it would be so succesful if it haven´t co-op (I know there is also need to be all time online, but for me that is less important factor then co-op)? I don´t think so - and I know I would sure put  into row (and buy it after some time, when I have 'çompleted' others games or it would be less expensive), but I know my father is really big fans of Diablo 3, so I suppose we will be able to sacriface some big money, would be Diablo 2 so sucessful if it haven´t support of co-op in singleplayer story and also quite strong singleplayer?

Yes, I was sooner also only singleplayer player...but now I have two people whose are able to play me-one is lover of fantasy RPG, with second I play most of time co-op 3D action (but I suppose he isn´t one genre focus). For you, it doesn´t matter if game don´t include co-op, for me it is very big factor, if I spent money or let it pass for later time. With 3D action, there is quite good situation with support of co-op, so almost no problem. But when I try to pick up some RPG, which isn´t older date, which isn´t Diablo style, which isn´t MMORPG, I am constatly very, very restricted, so I always desperatly scan every new RPG and first what is deal break is if it have co-op (Then I am willing to buy when is that quite new game or give way to some worser not so perfect RPG)-and just imagine that there must be much more gamers which need resolve similar problem.
Have you experience of situation where have you children and you/or they want play with you (or you with them) some game which you are just playing? Or girlfriend which have same interest as you (playing games) with same favourite genres?Preferably complex RPG? No? Then you have luck. But there are others for whom is time spend with family/boyfriend/girlfriend very important-and I think playing games together can be consider for one of type spending free time together. 

And do you know that RPG without co-op support can be also very, very bad (can suck)-have bad story, have many bugs and many other possibilites? If creators don´t have their day, time, abilities or they simple burn out? If you want add co-op into singleplayer, you just need build that on some very strong pillars in that singleplayer, because in other way co-op suck because whole game (so if it is game already bad in singleplayer, it would also suck in co-op, which would be included in singleplayer game/story)-or if you do it as is Mass Effect 3, it is simple what is very different what we can call ´story co-op with strong emphasis on story like in singleplayer' 

Huh, quite long text, sorry for that, but I wanted include all my possible thoughts

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 14 mai 2012 - 12:29 .

[naomis8329]

As much as co-op and or online games are all the rage and people want them to me the DA series is a single player game, meant to be played as the player wants and not as the group wants.

I believe that like Skyrim for example a single player game should be released for PC, console or whatever and a multiplayer game released afterwards if the request is big enough.

For me I would only purchase a single player game as that is how I play.

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

naomis8329 wrote...

As much as co-op and or online games are all the rage and people want them to me the DA series is a single player game, meant to be played as the player wants and not as the group wants.

I believe that like Skyrim for example a single player game should be released for PC, console or whatever and a multiplayer game released afterwards if the request is big enough.

For me I would only purchase a single player game as that is how I play.

And here we again...you are not all people who play Bioware games.You can´t imagine that co-op would work, but I believe it can be working. And I am be able to accept that RPG with co-op can be great. Who have bigger ´truth´ or ´right'? And as I said previous person - for you it doesn´t matter if you can do co-op in story, for me it decide if I am possible willing to pay full price (and that is always good for authors, or not?) or not-or just use ´other´ possibility (wait for lower price, use black market)

And see, that is resolution, but it  is just quite similar which I suggest (with two version)

All situation (discussion) with possibility of co-op remind me two main motives in both game series from Bioware
1.fight between blood mages (apostates) and templars
2.fight between organic and synthetic
But different is that one side already won and second lose

You are so strict also in other aspect of your life?Like in choice of food (you don´t try it and refuse it fro principle?)? Be old-fashioned and conservatist is quite fine, but at the end you will be overun by changes (if you like it or not)

And with Skyrim it is really interesting example,but  in my opinion it is possible worst resolution, which don´t resolve situation of people who demand/was demanding (or hoping) support of co-op in Skyrim - and as it see, it wouldn´t be anything like original TES series, rather another MMORPG. And if you both completed singleplayer part of Skyrim, would you have interest in doing that same in some generic MMORPG? No, it would be very, very different game (if it have also different story from singleplayer Skyrim). I am not clear MMORPG player and I have already interest in two others MMORPG, so I know that ´Skyrim´ MMORPG haven´t no chance. And I am still planning to play all of the game from Elder Scroll but know what-I have still something else to play.   

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 14 mai 2012 - 06:12 .

[Lamepro]

Grifter Hawke wrote...

I love DA is perfect all the entire game.
DA2... well its not bad, but is not good 2...
for me... is better DA+DLC than DA2+DLC
2 days ago i watch the 34min of video for the "presentation" for DA3.
And i play skyrim two (when i finish all DA1, DA2, ME2, ME3)
ok what i mean?
I want DA3 with the graphic of skyrim, with the gameplay like skyrim.

Is more real take a horse and go to the part of the map what u want.
("warp" with the map with one click is boring, u can take some challenge with dragons or some1 in the path)
take off the system of play pause if ur in problems, coze in real life u cant take pause to make a decision...

make the game in two sides like: become grey warden or follow the champion and get diferents storys if u choose Hawke or GreyWardens call...
mix something like u can buy a house...
things like merry with lelyana or search morrigan... for male
for female merry with Alistair...
i think we need a game with more hours to play not like DA2 u can finish DA2 in 14 hours...
more Dragons coze is a Dragon Age...
more difficult decisions...
i love DA then when i play skirym, i imagine my Grey Warden running for skyrim :S lol
something like that is good for DA3 but skyrim is to short (if u play just the story)
try to make something diferent with our old companions
cyaaa

So you want nonlinear gameplay with the Creation Engine which the game has glitches and be easy enough to be exploit to almost make you god like?

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

naomis8329 wrote...

As much as co-op and or online games are all the rage and people want them to me the DA series is a single player game, meant to be played as the player wants and not as the group wants.

I believe that like Skyrim for example a single player game should be released for PC, console or whatever and a multiplayer game released afterwards if the request is big enough.

For me I would only purchase a single player game as that is how I play.

Yes, we know it. We something promise, then we ´accidently´ forget or it is too late to make it (no profit from it). I just don´t trust EA, for me it became company on first place are only money and what they do for example with Command & Conquer series...brrr. When two possible version of same game , then I suggest it should be publish same time.

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 14 mai 2012 - 05:42 .

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

You know, it is very nicely showing that Bioware have very, very tough position and there is almost no possible to make some conclude between military fans of singleplayer and co-op positive players. And so if it depend only on you singleplayer players in this forum/in my voting poll, that is extreme stupid when he already think about some form of multiplayer (if we can believe rumours) and he is making harakiri. But reality with Mass Effect 3 is different and as I am watching situation and I think multiplayer have quite good number or players and it was quite big selling hit (but why there isn´t possibility of co-op in main story-story co-op,maybe next time).

And why are you talking still about some non-specific multiplayer? I am don´t talking about non-specific multiplayer (then we can include every form of multiplayer), I am talking about possible story co-op and be possible to join to some form of private games between only chosen group of people which are already accepted and joy they will be do co-op together in one game-even on one console without connect to internet (by splitscreen).

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 14 mai 2012 - 06:42 .

[naomis8329]

Its not about being strict as you say, but about the way in which I choose to play. I don't like playing with other people as it restricts how I play and what I like to do. Selfish, for sure, but I love roleplaying my way and in my own time. I look around, I walk everywhere, and each time I play through I find something new. This is what I enjoy and what I want to do. I love a good story, rich characters and fabulous places to visit and look at.

I would rather the company spend its time developing a rich environment and amazing story than trying to do too much with a co-op or MMO to meet everyones needs. At least with a single player game done correctly they're onto a winner. If they wish to release a co-op then do so after they make sure that the single player game is everything one could wish for. If that's right then developing it for Co-op will be easy.

To be honest why change a delivery that's not broke.

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

naomis8329 wrote...

Its not about being strict as you say, but about the way in which I choose to play. I don't like playing with other people as it restricts how I play and what I like to do. Selfish, for sure, but I love roleplaying my way and in my own time. I look around, I walk everywhere, and each time I play through I find something new. This is what I enjoy and what I want to do. I love a good story, rich characters and fabulous places to visit and look at.

I would rather the company spend its time developing a rich environment and amazing story than trying to do too much with a co-op or MMO to meet everyones needs. At least with a single player game done correctly they're onto a winner. If they wish to release a co-op then do so after they make sure that the single player game is everything one could wish for. If that's right then developing it for Co-op will be easy.

To be honest why change a delivery that's not broke.

I look around, I walk everywhere, and each time I play through I find something new. This is what I enjoy and what I want to do. I love a good story, rich characters and fabulous places to visit and look at  - okay, with these we can agree

Maybe when I look into at your last paragon, you don´t really don´t belong to what are in my opinion ´military´ fan of singleplayer

So same as you what I want is very strong singleplayer, but with some possibility (okay, I will be acccept to wait, if there will be some ´insurence´ that it can be add later) to make co-op atleast with one other player
I understand when you play with some unknown online people, they will probably rush and don´t regard you, but this is only one side of co-op. And I agree this is quite awful experience. But I have quite opposite experience with co-op in co-op RPGs, more personal, becuase I don´t mainly play with unknown people, but people which I know (so we can choose own  pace of game or we ´adapt´ to each other)

And they already make very drastical change in case of Dragon Age-Origins and Dragon Age 2-they have different graphic style, they change dynamic of fight, less different locations in Dragon Age 2 against Dragon Age, remove of possibility to change companion armour, it is not possible to talk in ´wildreness´ with companions (outside camp)when it is not scripted/important for progress n story and some quite other differences (something I have like, something I don´t). And with adding of co-op into Mass Effect 3 they very change that game (against Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2)-but you should know these changes if you play both Dragon Age games

And do you know that some MMORPG which I played, I played more ´singleplayer´ way then pure singleplayer RPG (for example Pirates of Burning Sea or Lord of the Rings Online) - I played them like singleplayer RPG-that is more preciously

btw-in case of all co-op RPG, there isn´t working that somebody suddenly appear for example ghost of developer in some medievil costume and start hold sword under your neck and if you don´t give co-op, that ghost will you slit your neck. And all the time I have been playing singleplayer RPGs(with co-op) (and that is quite long time, atleast from Baldur´s Gate-Dark Alliance 2 on Playstation 2), never happened me that in closed game somebody else join if I don´t want that (every co-op RPG which I already played have always choice to manually switch between co-op and no co-op and it is always standart as no multiplayer enabled game (by the way this is great difference between MMORPG and co-op RPG-in MMORPG you need be still online, in co-op RPG not but both variantions have great advantge for developers you must have original copy of game (one on console, two on PC) if you use online protection). Also usually my father, when he want play with me (or I want play with him) some RPGs, it is on both of us.

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 15 mai 2012 - 03:36 .

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

And do you somebody see co-op RPG which don´t be based on singleplayer story or game? No, I don´t.99% procent co-op RPG which was released have only one shared campaign for both possibilites (singleplayer and co-op). There is always one campaign (same as singleplayer as for co-op), only two exceptions which are coming to my mind are Mass Effect 3 (you do almost same as you do in singleplayer (but without story arc), but it is whole different mode) and Dungeon Siege (original campaign for one player(which you can co-op)+seperated ´campaign´ for more players) - it doesn´t apply to Steam version, which are is now practically only singleplayer version as both Dragon Age (to nowadays I don´t understand why Square Enix don´t offer both games with multipayer for 5$ or 10$, even as they should release without any modifications only with newest patches-as there are plenty of oldschool classics on Steam with similar price). I hope GOG will choose another way and if they add both Dungeon Siege, they will don´t forget include multiplayer as is/was standart part of both games.

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 15 mai 2012 - 03:30 .

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

And do you know what? It is at the end on the authors. We are not making possible Dragon Age 3. We can make some arguments,as I am doing and all of you. And nobody is holding gun at heads of all members of developer(s) team(s). But every one of us can try to make better arguent or suggestions then other member of this community.

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

Real situation in which I am now - I have now no full AAA RPG or something similar on Playstation 3 (I can´t use PC games as one of my PC is broken due to broken Windows 7) to play with my father, althought I am willing to give some ´round´ with him. If Bioware would release in this time some AAA RPG with possibility of co-op in main story, they have in pocket my 60$ (or little less,little more). How many people are resolvng situation like me? How many is Bioware losing money becuase this? Don´t want my money, EA/Bioware?
Update- okay, situation change, it is appeared that now Bioware haven´t no chance in my case as I jump again into LOTRO (and this won´t be short journey) with my father (as for co-op) and then there is already waiting Diablo 3 (and after Diablo 3? Definitely some next RPG which will have co-op support in main story(Guild War?)), so  don´t know if you really realese this or next year, if I would have to spend my money on RPG which I won´t be playing
So as you see, it is quite hard fight and I am always glad give to chance game (RPG game) which offer what I need

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 18 mai 2012 - 05:10 .

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

And one more interesting fact - I have already invested in both of MMORPG (and into many co-op RPGs) which I played (or play) then I invested in all only singleplayer RPG. Only saying.....

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 16 mai 2012 - 12:32 .

[BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs]

And as I said, and now it is quite true, Diablo 3 (singleplayer RPG with co-op in main story) is maybe most sufficient PC game in last years (6.1 milions copies already sold-in seven weeks).
On other hand, creators of Kingdoms of Alamur (only singleplayer RPG) (38 studio) are gone
People are social being and I would say there must be more players which share their life with somebody then lonely gamers
And I am sure that no pure singleplayer RPG hasn´t same monstrous sucess like Diablo 3 in these days (even Mass Effect 3 is quite behind from sales of Diablo 3)
Do you still think people don´t want to be possible do co-op in main story (or have that possibility?)? It is wise ignore them? Then you must ready that someone else take them from you (like it is showing Diablo 3)-from your genre of RPG games (I don´t doubt that some players consider Diablo 3 for quite hardcore RPG and I don´t doubt that someone play it also because story, characters-NPCs, because story movies between acts and try to listen every audio record/journal which is in game and related to story and some other similar things.) (Maybe others co-op RPGs (which have possible co-op in main story) don´t have this sucess because they were not from Blizzard (so they have not so deserved attention) and also it is not MMORPG (mean Diablo 3))

Modifié par BringSomeGoodCo-opRPGs, 04 juin 2012 - 11:46 .

[littlewisp]

The biggest complaint people have had about Diablo 3 is that there is no option for single player offline mode. The always online DRM has created a huge controversy. The Diablo franchise has been around since the 90s. There is a large following for it. It is created by Blizzard, and they got their WoW fanbase who hadn't played D3 interested in playing it. Don't get me wrong -- I love Diablo 3. But comparing D3, with its weak story and focus on grinding out gear, to Dragon Age is about the same comparison as saying DA should go to co-op because a lot of people play CoD. People play those games for entirely different reasons than they play DA. I for one know several people who love D3 or CoD but wouldn't (and haven't) touched DA, and it has nothing to do with the lack of co-op (and yes, I know, it's a small sample but to assume that the reason D3 is successful is due solely to multiplayer is making a pretty big assumption).

I don't really care one way or another so long as I can play alone. But! The thing of concern here is how much money and developmental resources would need to go into multiplayer and take money away from things like story, character development, or multiple and diverse locations. DA isn't so big of a franchise that they'd green light unlimited resources to go into it.

[naomis8329]

@Littlewisp, I agree completely. To me they should stick with the formula they know ie single player game and concentrate on getting the continuity right and the story correct so everything follows through from DAO to the end.

So many loose ends already which I'd love to see being sorted in a dynamic way and included even in part, in DA3.