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[Corvus Black]

fix the bugs in dragon age first than doing this damn epic fail contest.

[Fathis Munk]

Good bye N7 hoody.



Thanks for ignoring all of us.



And especially for making us wait, then telling us that it isn't for us. Great job !

[ninnisinni97]

Well, this certainly sucks infinitely!! I live in Sweden!   I even began collecting tokens because I hadn't read the rules. Way to go BioWare!! Cleverly done there, making a community event that you shut the major part of the community out from!!
 
Am I the only one who can sense some MAJOR corporate involvement in this whole affair?

[Radiick]

Absolutely can't believe that Bioware would let it's Canadian Customers down, shame.............this is from someone who has bought everything Bioware since their very first release............shame, shame.....

[FancyShoes]

Of course I do everything the contest tells me to do to get points. Then I happen to read that it is only in the states. I am loyal, I bought both ME and DA:O and awakening why can't I be part of the event? Disappointed Canadian fan :c.

[GCsabai]

U.S. Only... That's GREAT ! x(

Сообщение изменено: GCsabai, 29 Март 2010 - 07:02 .

[Anrim]

ATTENTION: Bioware only accepts money from US citizens!

[ItsEvan]

Wondering how the hell I'm supposed to register my Awakening when I bought it via 360 using MS points...Shouldn't that still count?

[TommyGun77]

:devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil::devil:

Сообщение изменено: TommyGun77, 29 Март 2010 - 07:24 .

[droid105]

Cant believe Bioware left Canada out, their a Canadian company. I think this is not right, everyone should be allow to joined this contest , shame Bioware. Make me feel like not buying anymore of your games

[VictoryAkara669]

Darth Postal wrote...

Very, very, VERY angry!!! Another "we hate everyone who's not american" event.

You can't even say that, Florida is also banned from the dang contest - which is complete BS

[MasterSaji]

VictoryAkara669 wrote...

Darth Postal wrote...

Very, very, VERY angry!!! Another "we hate everyone who's not american" event.

You can't even say that, Florida is also banned from the dang contest - which is complete BS

Wait, Florida is part of America?

[ClonePatrol]

Before you all whine, you should understand why they did it that way, and it's a very good reason. See Below.

HowStuffWorks.com wrote...
In a magazine advertisement for a company contest or giveaway, the
description of the prize is typically followed by a huge mass of fine
print. The fine print details all the contest rules, restrictions,
regulations, etc. If the contest is advertised on radio or television,
we hear the announcer switching gears suddenly at the end of the spot,
running quickly through the eligibility requirements and rules.

Companies do this because when they open a contest to the public, they
create all sorts of possible legal troubles for themselves. They have to
be perfectly clear about their own responsibility in the contest so
they can avoid lawsuits from disgruntled contest losers and dissatisfied
contest winners. This gets a bit tricky because, in addition to
covering themselves under the general national law, companies running
contests also have to cover themselves under the regional laws
everywhere they run the contest.

In the United States, every state establishes their own set of rules for
contests. Most states have the same basic rules, so most national
contests are valid. Rhode Island is unique because the state law
actually requires the company to file a legal statement before it can
run a contest in that state. The statute, Section 11-50-1 of Rhode
Island General Laws, reads:

"Any person, firm, or corporation proposing to engage in any game,
contest, or other promotion or advertising scheme or plan in which a
retail
establishment offers the opportunity to receive gifts, prizes, or
gratuities, as determined by chance, in order to promote its retail
business, where the total announced value of the prizes offered to the
general public is in excess of five hundred dollars ($500), must file a
statement with the secretary of state."

The statute then details exactly what information must be included in
the filed statement. In addition, the law requires the company pay a
$150 filing fee. If a company runs a contest in Rhode Island, and fails
to file a statement correctly, the company is actually guilty of a
criminal misdemeanor!

For companies that want to run national contests, the filing fee alone
means it's not really worthwhile to run the contest in Rhode Island,
which has a fairly small population. When you add to that the hassle of
researching Rhode Island law in order to file the statement correctly,
very few national companies are going to bother. The term "retail
establishment" is fairly vague, so it's not really clear if the law
would apply to a non-retail Web site. It probably does, however, and for
most sites, it's not worth the time to try to contact the state of
Rhode Island secretary of state to find out.

The other 49 U.S. states don't require special filing procedures, but
they may have particular rules about what sort of contests are legal.
This is where the "void where prohibited" clause comes in. The statement
gives the company blanket protection against running an illegal
contest, without having to research the law in each particular state,
and tailor the contest accordingly.

Contest law varies even more between different countries. If you were to
open up a contest to people all over the world, you would have to
research the law in every single country on earth, to avoid getting
yourself in legal trouble. For a typical promotional contest, this is
just too much work. The legal fees for the required research would be
much more than the payoff of the promotion. Additionally, there are some
problematic legal questions inherent in any international contest. For
example, if something were to go wrong, -- say, the prize was lost in
shipping -- what court would the contest winner go to? It would be a
very tough legal question just figuring out who had jurisdiction.

What it comes down to is that it's just too much work for a company to
find out how to cover themselves, legally, in multiple countries and in
all states. After all, the typical rules and regulations of a contest
running only in the United States take up 20 or so paragraphs. Just
think how small a company would have to make the print to cover itself
internationally!

To say they shouldn't have done it if they can't do it for the whole world is to say "If we can't have free stuff too, then no one should have any at all". Quite selfish really.

[VictoryAkara669]

MasterSaji wrote...

VictoryAkara669 wrote...

Darth Postal wrote...

Very, very, VERY angry!!! Another "we hate everyone who's not american" event.

You can't even say that, Florida is also banned from the dang contest - which is complete BS

Wait, Florida is part of America?

Last time I checked, Ever since the north kicked our asses and burnt down thousands of houses and miles of farmland. 

[MasLegio]

ClonePatrol wrote...


To say they shouldn't have done it if they can't do it for the whole world is to say "If we can't have free stuff too, then no one should have any at all". Quite selfish really.

no, they just could have done a different event. An event that does not say "we do not care for non-americans".
Now they choose not to do that and suffer accordingly.

Сообщение изменено: MasLegio, 29 Март 2010 - 07:42 .

[ClonePatrol]

MasLegio wrote...

ClonePatrol wrote...


To say they shouldn't have done it if they can't do it for the whole world is to say "If we can't have free stuff too, then no one should have any at all". Quite selfish really.

no, they just could have done a different event. An event that does not say "we do not care for non-americans".
Now they choose not to do that and suffer accordingly.

Like what exactly? The give-away is a fairly basic thing, done by most companies, all over the world.
Also I'm fairly certain that Bioware has a European office that handles things on the side of the pond, so get on them, different groups and so forth. Just like how there are different people who work on DLC and patches, entirely different groups, different amounts of funding and offices. It's not that they didn't want to, but that they can't. Not only do they not have the resources, but they don't have the authority to do that sort of thing in Europe or any other continent for that matter. The corporate weave is complex.

[Raul1987]

Just thought I'd say the contest itself is pretty good. All the EA hate is nonsense. You can't expect them to run a contest like this and not have a LITTLE bit of benefit for the company themselves. And it's only very little. You can register your game OR fill out a questionnaire. That means people who never bothered to even buy a game and just warez'd them all could still get tokens. How's that not extremely lenient of them? And of course they'd reward users who bought games from them. It's something for the FANS. The more games you bought.. the bigger the fan.

I do agree it's a shame it's only for the US. But I can understand why, a lot of rules/regulations for each country to deal with, shipping etc. But hey, EA has different branches. Sure you can figure it out

But the contest itself, very nice for fans. Just thought I'd say that cause of all the hating, even though I never come here anymore!

Сообщение изменено: Raul1987, 29 Март 2010 - 07:57 .

[MasLegio]

you just dont get it do you?

If they want to make an epic community event they should not choose an event type that excludes the majority of the community. It is as simple as that. Just do not choose an event type that is limited by regional differences.

[fastidiou5]

It wouldn't have been to hard to have a message right up front when the timer came up stating that the 'event' would only be available to usa only. Or even keep the timer from showing except to american ips.



Why build up the hype for the entire community and then let a large portion of them down?

[Bundin]

They should not have tried hyping it up like that when they knew in advance that only a part of their fanbase would be eligible for participation in the event. Their websites are global in nature so I'd think it's not a surprise that lots of people that watched the counter counting down feel very disappointed now.



Sure it's cool to have giveaways, and some countries' laws just get in the way bigtime. Just don't hype the event to the entire community for days then, or be prepared for a backlash from disappointed people.

[EnderGDL]

what the heck was the point of that 5+ days countdown. Such childish tease to anyone not in the States.

[-Semper-]

To say they shouldn't have done it if they can't do it for the whole world is to say "If we can't have free stuff too, then no one should have any at all". Quite selfish really.

that's lame. ea got offices all around the globe. i can also buy stuff in america and it ships without problems everywhere at the world. the argument with laws and so on is also very very very unlogical. maybe that works for china but not the main part of the other countries. a lottery is not such a big thing^^

Сообщение изменено: -Semper-, 29 Март 2010 - 08:11 .

[Mauller]

Boy, good thing I live in Canada where Bioware is based out of. I must be included in this contest. Wait, what? What do you mean that I'm not included?

[KyleJastrick1988]

I love how I work in the building NEXT to Bioware, and I am uneligible for this contest due to being in canada, where they are. Way to go, guys.

[ClonePatrol]

MasLegio wrote...

you just dont get it do you?
If they want to make an epic community event they should not choose an event type that excludes the majority of the community. It is as simple as that. Just do not choose an event type that is limited by regional differences.

Might be a weird example, think of compaines with more than one HQ, there are different people in each one, doing the same job, and all the HQs might only be loosely affiliated beyond sharing a name. They interact rarely and see to their own affairs. One group may have no true power over the other. They are one but seperate, trying to see to mayn of the same needs. That's how international advertising and premotions work. If they are handled by the same company even, they are entirely separate. It's a complicated job, and is split up to diffrerent groups. Seeing as this is US promotion, the office that handles that stuff in the US started this, and there are different offices for different places. It's like marketing vs public relations, intertwined but seperate. It's part of how big business works. The site, and the community is seperate from the promotion, even though the promtion is run through the site. Hopefully that makes sense.

-Semper- wrote...

To say
they shouldn't have done it if they can't do it for the whole world is
to say "If we can't have free stuff too, then no one should have any at
all". Quite selfish really.

that's lame. ea got
offices all around the globe. i can also buy stuff in america and it
ships without problems everywhere at the world. the argument with laws
and so on is also very very very unlogical. maybe that works for china
but not the main part of the other countries. a lottery is not such a
big thing^^

A lottery is a huge thing. Lot's fo legal liabitity.

Though I do aggree Bioware should have said from the satrt this was a US only thing.

Сообщение изменено: ClonePatrol, 29 Март 2010 - 08:25 .