KalDurenik wrote...
Ofc if we keep pokeing them they will have to say something after awhile.
Or they just lock the thread and ban us all... which is more likely I would say...
KalDurenik wrote...
Ofc if we keep pokeing them they will have to say something after awhile.
Symbol117 wrote...
count_4 wrote...
So the BioWare staff doesn't feel excluded.
Part of me tells me the Edmonton team is no longer deserving of the right to be called Canadian. Just doesn't seem right at the moment.
DJ-MAT wrote...
greghorvath wrote...
Dossier: The fans
Loyalty mission: Regain loyalty of the enraged masses
Fixed
Hoogies123 wrote...
Symbol117 wrote...
count_4 wrote...
So the BioWare staff doesn't feel excluded.
Part of me tells me the Edmonton team is no longer deserving of the right to be called Canadian. Just doesn't seem right at the moment.
Yea ok thats going a little too far, even for this mess up.
Still I am upset as hell over this.
Exactly. They used the words "...epic community..." instead of saying "epic community (except community individuals who reside in FL, NY, Canada, and all other countries who's laws prohibit this epic secret)". Nobody would have needed to jump out of tall buildings, toss all their EA and BW software into the massive communal bonfire down on Main and First, punch their little brother in the face, or emailed every major newspaper on the globe if they had just said that. Epic fail BW & EA. Epic fail.Nizzemancer wrote...
Just like everyone else defending ea and bw you're missing the whole ****ing point...Tesla17 wrote...
It's forums like these that are a conduit for all things I despise in verminous self-righteous head cases like the ones in this thread. Quoting from a post on Kotaku;
"I work for a contest company, the reason that they exclude Florida and New York is because those two states require you to "bond and register" your promotions with those states. Basically, it means that Bioware would have to jump through a bunch of hoops and pay money (or face fines) to the states of Florida and NY. So, New Yorkers or Floridians, blame your states.
As for Canadians, you cannot legally award a prize to a Canadian through a game of chance. Therefore, Canadians are not eligible for a sweepstakes or an instant win promotion. The loophole is a math skill test, which would be complicated and expensive for Bioware to employ.
Basically, Bioware took the cheapest and most reasonable route and avoided Canada, Florida, and New York." - juxtaposed11
It's a promotion, and a very large one at that. What? is there something wrong with that? They do these kinds of things in the realms of feasibility and all anyone can do is complain. It makes me wonder why I even bother, trying to bring sense and logic to the idiots on the internet who couldn't probably even spell "logic."
*Face-palms his head through three solid concrete walls
IntrepidProdigy wrote...
From what I've observed, ever since the ME1 boards, silence seems to be their answer for everything that doesn't go their way.
WoefulTeacher wrote...
greghorvath wrote...
this whole thing is really intriguing.
Are people upset by the fact that they are ineligible for the promotion, or about the fact that we weren't told beforehand that a great many of us could not participate, the fact that it was hyped up as a community event and many of us (up till now) paying customers feel disregarded...
hmm... I might actually make a poll on this. i have a sociology paper I have to hand in real soon anyway...
Yeah it's the latter. I generally do not enter competitions, and wouldn't have participated even if I were eligible. What annoys/amazes me is the ineptitude of Bioware/EA! There is mass unemployment around the world, and yet here is a company that hires and pays people who think it is good customer relations to falsely advertise to it's customers and then to fall deathly silent when those customers have legitimate concerns.
Catt128 wrote...
AlexDSR wrote...
Catt128 wrote...
AlexDSR wrote...
Dark_Caduceus wrote...
AlexDSR wrote...
kajtarp wrote...
Im curious how well will the Kasumi DLC sell after this failure....
As much it would sell before the countdown. We are in this network because we love BW products. This whole event so far is a disaster and we will criticize them in order to raise their standards in marketing section. But thats it.
Example: Personally i hate blizzard but this doesnt mean that i wont buy their products.
You... hate blizzard? WHY???
Milking methods, took them years to start listening to public feedback/ they implemented features that their community was screaming about years later. blizzcon and ghostcrawler. Ok i like ghostcrawler! sort of hehehe
Atleast they KNOW how to organize events (not talking about blizzcon, just community events and contests). This was very unproffesional for a company that makes excellent games and has a name in the industry.
I agree and thats why we are here talking about this matter. To give them enough feedback in order to improve themselves and avoid similar situations such as this. Now, if they wont listen its their loss really.
YeahBut it doesn't seem they are listening... they reply to threads that have something to do with tokens/rules and that's all. I'd love to know what's going on in their office.
greghorvath wrote...
Ok guys. Help me out here. Give me reasons: http://social.biowar...339/polls/3969/
I just voted and wrote a lil comment
DJ-MAT wrote...
greghorvath wrote...
Dossier: The fans
Loyalty mission: Regain loyalty of the enraged masses
Fixed
Agreed.Alodar wrote...
I have been a huge BioWare supporter for close to 15 years now and the big issue here is communication.
When BioWare found out that this epic community event was only open to a small subset of their community they needed to manage expectations at that time.
A simple note saying "Our deepest apologies, EA has hit a legal snafu and this community event will only be open to these 48 states, we were working on something else for the rest of wonderful fans." , would have done wonders.
But they didn't do that.
They allowed excitement to build. They labeled it an Epic Community event. Come zero hour they had another opportunity to talk to the community and tell them about the about the snafu. "Hey due to some legal mumbo jumo with EA this contest is only open to a small subset of the community. We apologize for your dissapointment. We should have communicated earlier but we only found out quite recently. We're working on something special to include all of our community." They didn't say that. They didn't say anything. They simply announced their epic community event.
We found out we weren' t included in the epic community event by reading a legal disclaimer -- we found out in the fine print. We were left with no explanation. No communication. Only that it was being billed as an epic community event but didn't include us.
So many reached the conclusion that since this is an epic community event and it doesn't include us we are obviously not part of the community. (Hence all the nifty banners)
I still love BioWare games. I have had the opportunity to interact with many employees of BioWare and they are wonderful folk.
But we are still lacking in communication.
Alodar
DJ-MAT wrote...
Fixed
KCFender wrote...
WoefulTeacher wrote...
greghorvath wrote...
this whole thing is really intriguing.
Are people upset by the fact that they are ineligible for the promotion, or about the fact that we weren't told beforehand that a great many of us could not participate, the fact that it was hyped up as a community event and many of us (up till now) paying customers feel disregarded...
hmm... I might actually make a poll on this. i have a sociology paper I have to hand in real soon anyway...
Yeah it's the latter. I generally do not enter competitions, and wouldn't have participated even if I were eligible. What annoys/amazes me is the ineptitude of Bioware/EA! There is mass unemployment around the world, and yet here is a company that hires and pays people who think it is good customer relations to falsely advertise to it's customers and then to fall deathly silent when those customers have legitimate concerns.
I like that Chris Priestly, the guy whose job is to relate to the customers, the one we're waiting to hear from, uses a US$ sign as an avatar and puts devil faces after his posts.
I'm sure he thinks it's wonderfully sarcastic, and edgy, as opposed to just pure tasteless. :innocent:
Selor Kiith wrote...
KalDurenik wrote...
Ofc if we keep pokeing them they will have to say something after awhile.
Or they just lock the thread and ban us all... which is more likely I would say...
Quoted for truth and perfect wording.Alodar wrote...
I have been a huge BioWare supporter for close to 15 years now and the big issue here is communication.
When BioWare found out that this epic community event was only open to a small subset of their community they needed to manage expectations at that time.
A simple note saying "Our deepest apologies, EA has hit a legal snafu and this community event will only be open to these 48 states, we were working on something else for the rest of wonderful fans." , would have done wonders.
But they didn't do that.
They allowed excitement to build. They labeled it an Epic Community event. Come zero hour they had another opportunity to talk to the community and tell them about the about the snafu. "Hey due to some legal mumbo jumbo with EA this contest is only open to a small subset of the community. We apologize for your disappointment. We should have communicated earlier but we only found out quite recently. We're working on something special to include all of our community." They didn't say that. They didn't say anything. They simply announced their epic community event.
We found out we weren't included in the epic community event by reading a legal disclaimer -- we found out in the fine print. We were left with no explanation. No communication. Only that it was being billed as an epic community event but didn't include us.
So many reached the conclusion that since this is an epic community event and it doesn't include us we are obviously not part of the community. (Hence all the nifty banners)
I still love BioWare games. I have had the opportunity to interact with many employees of BioWare and they are wonderful folk.
But we are still lacking in communication.
Alodar
Grunt420 wrote...
Check this Out
http://social.bioware.com/brc/1326
KalDurenik wrote...
Selor Kiith wrote...
KalDurenik wrote...
Ofc if we keep pokeing them they will have to say something after awhile.
Or they just lock the thread and ban us all... which is more likely I would say...
True but at this point i dont care after all im not part of the community anyway right?
Eleima wrote...
DJ-MAT wrote...
Fixed
Absolute win!
(Although you forgot to mention that we just might "slap their @sses with a singularity".
(Loved that bartender in the Eternity Lounge on Illium)
Hoogies123 wrote...
You are epic stupidity.
Kyalion wrote...
Rivercurse wrote...
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This needs to be posted again for sheer amazingness.
I actually laughed out loud and thats not common for me online.
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