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#3976
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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I don't have time to look through 160 pages, has bioware said anything yet?

Nope

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Lethias

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I agree, maybe the EA had some say in this.But acting like BioWare was some poor child tortured and supressed by EA is kinda naive. Hmm maybe BioWare employees crying in their bed because they have to do evil things forced by EA... riiiiiight.

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KalDurenik

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Nope they are still ignoring us :) trying to stop the fire from spreading...

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Kolos2

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yes lockdown

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Hey, we europeans are making the science that one day may make FTL possible, we deserve some stuff too :/

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What a farce, I'm British and can't take part, even worse is that Canadians can't take part and Bioware is Canadian! Sort it out Bioware\\EA open this up to the rest of the world and stop being racist!

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ImperialOperative

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SparksX wrote...

Hey, we europeans are making the science that one day may make FTL possible, we deserve some stuff too :/


lol

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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I don't have time to look through 160 pages, has bioware said anything yet?


You can always tell. 

From the main forum page, click the "bioware" logo underneath the topic title, and it will list all dev posts in that topic.

And no, they havent.

#3984
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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I don't have time to look through 160 pages, has bioware said anything yet?

nope

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FYI





Sloth Of Doom wrote...



Personally I couldn't give a crap about the contest itself, it is the misleading advertising that bugs me. But for those who are saying that you can't hold a contest in more than one country I will slap up a quick example of a gaming company that does just that, because people spewing apologist nonsense without any facts to back them up bug me.



http://us.blizzard.c...ndar/rules.html





"Eligibility. BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT, INC., A DELAWARE

CORPORATION (referred to herein as "SPONSOR") IS THE SPONSOR OF THIS

CONTEST. THIS CONTEST IS OPEN ONLY TO RESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES,

CANADA, MEXICO, CHILE, ARGENTINA, AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, SINGAPORE,

FRANCE, BELGIUM, THE UNITED KINGDOM, LUXEMBOURG, GERMANY, AUSTRIA,

SWITZERLAND, SWEDEN, FINLAND, DENMARK, NORWAY, SPAIN, IRELAND, RUSSIA,

THE NETHERLANDS, SOUTH KOREA, TAIWAN, THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA,

THE CZECH REPUBLIC, CROATIA, THE UKRAINE, POLAND, BULGARIA, AND HUNGARY

WHICH ARE: (i) OVER THE AGE OF MAJORITY IN THEIR COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE ON

THE DATE REFERENCED BELOW AS THE START DATE FOR THE CONTEST; AND (ii)

WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE STATES OF NORTH DAKOTA, VERMONT,

CONNECTICUT, OR MARYLYAND IN THE UNITED STATES; THE PROVINCE OF QUEBEC,

CANADA; OR RESIDENTS OF THE AUSTRALIAN STATES OF VICTORIA, QUEENSLAND OR

THE AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL TERRITORY ("ENTRANTS")"



now im even more pissed off!!

thanks for this Sloth, it just further proves how little they care for the community and just how much of a ****ing marketing ploy this is to go and buy the DAO expansion pack (as it offers the most points) and other recently released (all EA btw) games.



if this is to mark 15 years of BIOWARE why are only the games released by EA relevant???

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Selor Kiith wrote...

Hey... HEY.... Bioware? EA? Look! We're still here! The LHC didn't sucked up Europe and the rest of the World!


Yea right ! Today the CERN created a big bang @ the LHC.
The doomsayers were wrong, we are *still* alive !! :whistle:

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-Area51-Silent wrote...

I say these things because, we assume that Bioware can basically do whatever they want to, but they answer to EA because thats where the publishing money comes from, and for a lack of better words, thats who they work for.

When your boss tells you to do somthing, you do it! I agree that the rest of the world should have been included, and I find it flat out odd that Canada, especially, wasn't included. When people say "oh they didn't have to put that on their website" well yes they did, typically the contest is completely designed and packaged before it's implemented, including all the marketing tools that go along with it.

Bioware more than likely knew this would happen, they knew that there would be repercussions, I mean why would you want to exclude anyone from the community? It's obvious where this came from, and my reason for really disliking where gaming is going (publishing comapnies). EA and Activision both have terrible reputations because all they look for is the bottom dollar, and not the best interest of the comsumer. Bioware is a company made of people who just want to make great games for gamers, by gamers.



Unfortunately thats where we are heading. We the gamers could stand against it by becoming active in the gaming industry. What if we were share holders of BW and each on of us were paying 50-100$ per year inorder to ensure independence of the company and the right to vote?

Modifié par AlexDSR, 30 mars 2010 - 06:14 .


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Mr Chr15topher wrote...

I don't have time to look through 160 pages, has bioware said anything yet?


nope they've gone turtle.

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Catt128 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hey guys, let's click on eachother's referral links for irony's sake:
social.bioware.com/brc/932440


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Oh no, there's an evil monkey in my closet!

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Srau wrote...

Selor Kiith wrote...

Hey... HEY.... Bioware? EA? Look! We're still here! The LHC didn't sucked up Europe and the rest of the World!


Yea right ! Today the CERN created a big bang @ the LHC.
The doomsayers were wrong, we are *still* alive !! :whistle:


BRAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNSSSSSS..... 

#3991
MOTpoetryION

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nope and lol cat i like it

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ImperialOperative wrote...

Starscream723 wrote...

It's surely then reasonable to expect people's reactions to be on a similar level to that which they've been hyped up to? You know, rather than just expecting everybody to be as cynical as yourself?


That's wholly unreasonable.

This is Bioware, nobody should be excited for anything.


So you're saying that everybody should be as cynical as yourself, and that fans of BioWare are just stupid for looking forward to something that BioWare promise.

Possibly true, but still I feel an unreasonable expectation to have. It's up there with "world peace" as far as unrealistic expectations go.

So I still disagree with you, but at least your point is clear.

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-Area51-Silent

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WoefulTeacher wrote...

-Area51-Silent wrote...

Selor Kiith wrote...

-Area51-Silent wrote...

God you bunch of whiners, learn how to read before you spout off hate at Bioware. I am not saying it's "right" but you are blaming the development crew, and not the  SPONSOR WHO GIVES AWAY THE STUFF AWAY!

"Sponsor

This Contest is sponsored by Electronic Arts Inc., 209 Redwood Shores Parkway, Redwood City, CA 94065. The Contest is governed by and is in accordance with the laws of the state of California in the United States of America."

Obviously reading isn't a strong point for some, becaues Bioware...A CANADIAN COMPANY would OBVIOUSLY want to alienate THEIR OWN FREAKING COUNTRY. Be mad at the publishers the source of money and control, they dictate how things go, and their subsidiaries just do as they are told. Because it is plain and obvious that Bioware is NOT to blame for this, but EA, so I suggest taking your ranting to their website (www.EA.com) and TELLING THEM!


Still BioWare should simply told us that this is US only! THAT is THEIR fault!




Once again, they do what they are told, thats how subsidiaries work. If EA tells them "put this on your website" then thats what they do.  I don't agree with the deception, and I really dislike publishing comapanies because they go out of their way to ruin developers reputations (Activision did it to Infinity ward, and here we are with EA doin it to Bioware).

Unfortunately this is just how business goes, but intead of making your hate for Bioware here (which you have to know that they KNEW this would happen) take it to the people who told them to do it! This isn't their fault, why should we make them take the heat?


So you really believe that someone EA said:
 
"Hey Bioware guys, it's like your 15th anniversary coming up, so we are going to force you to have a Bioware Bazaar Auction type thing. You WILL have to have a big countdown and advertise it as an 'epic community event', even though it is just for 48 states of the US." Evil laugh...

And Bioware replied: "But isn't that creating false hype and a massive screw you to our fans. I refuse to do this"

EA: "You WILL do this Bioware because we own your souls and if you don't we will fire you all and slaughter your first born" Cue Evil laugh.

OH PLEASE!


Not quite that way, but yes, I believe that someone at the top decided to do this give away, ran the numbers and looked at pricing for international transactions as well as the tax laws (IFRS) and decided that "Hey, this is the most efficient way to do this, lets build it, market it, and then sell it. Bioware is a development company, they are not a marketing, sales or publishing company. They make games, EA does everything else, otherwise Bioware would file their own 10-k report and be a separate reporting entity.

Instead and I quote from Electronic Arts 10-k report

"In January 2008, we completed our acquisition of VG Holding Corp. (“VGH”), owner of both BioWare Corp. and Pandemic Studios, LLC, which create action, adventure, and role-playing games. VGH was headquartered in Menlo Park, California. BioWare Corp. and Pandemic Studios are located in Edmonton, Canada; Los Angeles, California; Austin, Texas; and Brisbane, Australia."

So yes, Electronic Arts says "jump" and Bioware answers "how high." Thats how it works when you work for someone else.

#3994
Mr Chr15topher

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KalDurenik wrote...

Nope they are still ignoring us :) trying to stop the fire from spreading...

They're going to need an awfully big hose to put this fire out...

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Shizuru wrote...

Kolos2 wrote...

since we from the non- community get tokens, can we disturb the auction in any way? like prices ?


I don't really see the point in ruining the event for the people who can participate, they're not to blame.


Paragon + 15

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hey guys, let's click on eachother's referral links for irony's sake:
social.bioware.com/brc/932440

Hell, why not. The more tokens the more we can interfere with the actual auction. :D

social.bioware.com/brc/21328

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-Area51-Silent wrote...

When your boss tells you to do somthing, you do it!

That's a common mistake. I have an employer. Only dogs have a boss. If he does something stupid and if I have a better solution then I'll advice him to do something that may save his ass. Most of the time he's happy with that attitude.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 30 mars 2010 - 06:17 .


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I'm glad Sloth of Doom posted that. I thought it was kind of fishy when someone earlier in the thread said you can't offer contests in other countries if you it for the USA. It just didn't seem logical. Hasn't Pepsi and Coca Cola offered contests over the whole world at the same time?

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At least, we all got to participate in this. This didn't exclude anyone! We have the power!

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Hey guys, let's click on eachother's referral links for irony's sake:

Stop this PLZ! :ph34r: