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Sloth Of Doom wrote...
Ok dude you keep saying it isn't "US only" so I am going to assume english is not your native language.


See, ONLY citizens of the US can particispate, making this a "US Only" contest.  The fact that not all people in the US can participate does not change the fact that the only people that CAN particiapte are US citizens.

To use another example, I can say that I eat only vegetables, but I don't eat carrots because I am allergic.  The fact that I don't eat carrots wouldn't stop me from eating only vegetables.  

Describing this as a "US Only" event is accurate.

Because those people wouldn't be complaining exactly the way they are right now if it was advertised that way.

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Maviarab wrote...


It's going to be your countries own laws regarding such competitions as this that exclude it, not some jerk sitting at a desk in EA/BioWare who decided they only like 48 of the 50 states of the USA

That would actually be incorrect Cat :) The only logistical issue is import fee's for items (which bioware could say is your problem)...

This is corporate BS....by the best in the business...EA.


And...EA is an international company...they should know better than to pull something like this.   Their bazaar is set up to collect MORE customers, not less..so why exclude almost the whole world in favour of a few American states?  lol

Backwards thinking.

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Just passing through



http://social.biowar...774/polls/3918/



Trying to quantify disaster !

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Almost as stupid as announcing an epic community event and only letting SOME citizens of the US to take part, and nobody else.

Call me naïve, but I hoped Bioware was a company that cared more about its fanbase than catchy slogans and viral marketing :(

Bioware was. Keyword 'was'.
Electronic Arts simply doesn't care for your nerdtears. :crying:

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Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Am I the only one that can see this for what it is? A giant red herring. And we fell for it. If we're upset about some gimmicky, worthless contest that we cannot participate in anyway, we're completely forgetting about the unplayable state of the game(s) (moreso Dragon Age than Mass Effect 2, unless the latest DLC broke something I'm not aware of).


This is what annoys me most about this whole thing to be honest. I need a working patch dang it!

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davidk1991 wrote...
Nope, just let us know that it's US (minus two states) only, before you put up week-long countdowns and hype it as 'cool' in discussion threads.

But that would have looked really stupid up there. Look, I feel for you guys. I really do. And I'd rather all my friends around here from around the world could play too, because I don't actually expect to win a lot of stuff and the game would be way more fun with them. Also, I don't necessarily think that they advertised this the best way they could have. But give them a little credit for doing something really cool for a whole lot of their fans.


And you don't think it looks stupid now?

Yeah, I give them credit, I suppose it's a good scheme if you like these kinda things.  Just kinda annoyed that I took time out of my day to see what the hype was about, and got jack because I'm from elsewhere.

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Fathis Munk wrote...
Just passing through

http://social.biowar...774/polls/3918/

Trying to quantify disaster !

Meanwhile, this one is holding steadily at 8%.
http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user=589500&poll_id=3908

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The new European banner is neat :)

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Varenus Luckmann wrote...

davidk1991 wrote...
Almost as stupid as announcing an epic community event and only letting SOME citizens of the US to take part, and nobody else.

Call me naïve, but I hoped Bioware was a company that cared more about its fanbase than catchy slogans and viral marketing :(

Bioware was. Keyword 'was'.
Electronic Arts simply doesn't care for your nerdtears. :crying:


At least it's heading towards the right direction, as Matt Stone and Trey Parker put it 'Blame Canada', in this matter it's 'Blame EA' - I'm just so looking forward to an official statement to address why only us, and not even all of it can participate in this event.

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Sloth Of Doom wrote...
Ok dude you keep saying it isn't "US only" so I am going to assume english is not your native language.


See, ONLY citizens of the US can particispate, making this a "US Only" contest.  The fact that not all people in the US can participate does not change the fact that the only people that CAN particiapte are US citizens.

To use another example, I can say that I eat only vegetables, but I don't eat carrots because I am allergic.  The fact that I don't eat carrots wouldn't stop me from eating only vegetables.  

Describing this as a "US Only" event is accurate.

Because those people wouldn't be complaining exactly the way they are right now if it was advertised that way.


What in the hell does that have to do with calling it US only?  Do you have some kind of disease that prevents you from actually acknowledging  point and instead deliver deflective comment?

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Feraele wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

It's going to be your countries own laws regarding such competitions as this that exclude it, not some jerk sitting at a desk in EA/BioWare who decided they only like 48 of the 50 states of the USA

That would actually be incorrect Cat :) The only logistical issue is import fee's for items (which bioware could say is your problem)...

This is corporate BS....by the best in the business...EA.


And...EA is an international company...they should know better than to pull something like this.   Their bazaar is set up to collect MORE customers, not less..so why exclude almost the whole world in favour of a few American states?  lol

Backwards thinking.

You guys do not honstly believe that BioWare/EA has mad ethis decision based on the countries and states that they don't like?:blink:

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Leon Elsa wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
Am I the only one that can see this for what it is? A giant red herring. And we fell for it. If we're upset about some gimmicky, worthless contest that we cannot participate in anyway, we're completely forgetting about the unplayable state of the game(s) (moreso Dragon Age than Mass Effect 2, unless the latest DLC broke something I'm not aware of).


This is what annoys me most about this whole thing to be honest. I need a working patch dang it!

And I need a working game, dammit! I've run into a gamebreaking bug that has been known since release! Close to 6 months and it's still not fixed, I haven't been able to play for 3 days! :pinched:

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the_one_54321 wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

It's going to be your countries own laws regarding such competitions as this that exclude it, not some jerk sitting at a desk in EA/BioWare who decided they only like 48 of the 50 states of the USA

That would actually be incorrect Cat :) The only logistical issue is import fee's for items (which bioware could say is your problem)...

This is corporate BS....by the best in the business...EA.


And...EA is an international company...they should know better than to pull something like this.   Their bazaar is set up to collect MORE customers, not less..so why exclude almost the whole world in favour of a few American states?  lol

Backwards thinking.

You guys do not honstly believe that BioWare/EA has mad ethis decision based on the countries and states that they don't like?:blink:


Everyone is pissed because they were led to the top of a ginormous building, only to be Spartan kicked off of it.

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@Varenus Luckmann: would it be possible for you to make one of those banners for the Dutch?

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the_one_54321 wrote..

davidk1991 wrote..
Nope, just let us know that it's US (minus two states) only, before you put up week-long countdowns and hype it as 'cool' in discussion threads.

But that would have looked really stupid up there. Look, I feel for you guys. I really do. And I'd rather all my friends around here from around the world could play too, because I don't actually expect to win a lot of stuff and the game would be way more fun with them. Also, I don't necessarily think that they advertised this the best way they could have. But give them a little credit for doing something really cool for a whole lot of their fans.


Instead of putting it on the countdown timer, they could have posted a sticky post in all the "General discussion" informing us that, sadly, it will only be available for US with the exception of two states (New York and Florida).  - If they had done it like that, it would've saved a lot of anger/confusion/annoyance and flaming from inconsiderate 'crude' people.

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Smaaen90 wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

davidk1991 wrote...
Almost as stupid as announcing an epic community event and only letting SOME citizens of the US to take part, and nobody else.

Call me naïve, but I hoped Bioware was a company that cared more about its fanbase than catchy slogans and viral marketing :(

Bioware was. Keyword 'was'.
Electronic Arts simply doesn't care for your nerdtears. :crying:


At least it's heading towards the right direction, as Matt Stone and Trey Parker put it 'Blame Canada', in this matter it's 'Blame EA' - I'm just so looking forward to an official statement to address why only us, and not even all of it can participate in this event.

I can answer that already.

The cop-out "Legal issues" will be mentioned at least twice, if they touch on the subject.

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the_one_54321 wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...
Ok dude you keep saying it isn't "US only" so I am going to assume english is not your native language.


See, ONLY citizens of the US can particispate, making this a "US Only" contest.  The fact that not all people in the US can participate does not change the fact that the only people that CAN particiapte are US citizens.

To use another example, I can say that I eat only vegetables, but I don't eat carrots because I am allergic.  The fact that I don't eat carrots wouldn't stop me from eating only vegetables.  

Describing this as a "US Only" event is accurate.

Because those people wouldn't be complaining exactly the way they are right now if it was advertised that way.

What in the hell does that have to do with calling it US only?  Do you have some kind of disease that prevents you from actually acknowledging  point and instead deliver deflective comment?

Because you're still looking at this as "memememememe." Saying it was US only would only have risen the ire of community members from New York and Florida. There was no way for them to win here, even if the way they did may not have been the best way to do it.

And if they had said that, it may have made it too easy to guess the kind of thing that was going on. That would have wrecked the fun for even more people involved.

Stop taking it personal. They didn't say to themselves "We don't like SlothOfDoom, so lets exclude his country."

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marbatico wrote...

@Varenus Luckmann: would it be possible for you to make one of those banners for the Dutch?


just use the european one

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I had thought that the countdown was for Information to be released for expansions or sequels, so I was surprised, but interested when i found out it was actually a competition! I was, however, disappointed to see that being in the UK I'm not allowed to participate.



I'm not annoyed over the fact that I can't particulate, tbh I don't think I'd have had the winning 'bid' for anything anyway, but it would have been nice for Bioware/EA to have said before that it was going to be a comp and only for the US (minus Florida and NY). I think, in all honesty, that's what people aren't happy over.



I'm happy to support those who CAN participate, I've given a few clicks on things that my friends have asked me to, but can those who are able to participate stop giving us a hard time over our complaints. Go and play the game win your prizes (seriously, in all honesty, I wish you luck) but please, allow those who feel hard done speak, so that they're concerns are heard. After all, we're paying customers too!

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Everyone is pissed because they were led to the top of a ginormous building, only to be Spartan kicked off of it.

This. Is. BioWare!!! :devil:

Oh man... I need to add that to my sig. :D

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Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Leon Elsa wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
Am I the only one that can see this for what it is? A giant red herring. And we fell for it. If we're upset about some gimmicky, worthless contest that we cannot participate in anyway, we're completely forgetting about the unplayable state of the game(s) (moreso Dragon Age than Mass Effect 2, unless the latest DLC broke something I'm not aware of).


This is what annoys me most about this whole thing to be honest. I need a working patch dang it!

And I need a working game, dammit! I've run into a gamebreaking bug that has been known since release! Close to 6 months and it's still not fixed, I haven't been able to play for 3 days! :pinched:



In a previous thread, a Bioware employee said point blank that patches/bug fixes are basically a favor that they grant to us, not an obligation.

In other words, you're out of luck.

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@ Varenus Luckmann - Thanks for the banter! :)

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Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Smaaen90 wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

davidk1991 wrote...
Almost as stupid as announcing an epic community event and only letting SOME citizens of the US to take part, and nobody else.

Call me naïve, but I hoped Bioware was a company that cared more about its fanbase than catchy slogans and viral marketing :(

Bioware was. Keyword 'was'.
Electronic Arts simply doesn't care for your nerdtears. :crying:


At least it's heading towards the right direction, as Matt Stone and Trey Parker put it 'Blame Canada', in this matter it's 'Blame EA' - I'm just so looking forward to an official statement to address why only us, and not even all of it can participate in this event.

I can answer that already.

The cop-out "Legal issues" will be mentioned at least twice, if they touch on the subject.


They will most likely pin it on legal issues, shipping, and/or EA, I'm hoing the corporate suits at EA gets the blame, and maybe this time, can stop with all their folly once and for all.

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why can't people in New York do it? I live in NY!

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Guys, the countries and states that are excluded, I am fairly certain, are not participating due to their OWN laws regarding contests. No one at EA/BioWare decided that the only people that are a part of the community live in a mere 48 of the USA's states.



I mean the Warden's Quest event was not that long ago, and included teams made from all across the globe. In that case they did have control over it and consciously chose to include the entire world. That says a lot more than legal barriers on a single event.