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[Chris H. Fleming]

Nukenin wrote...

As for the referral link clicks, note that they only count 10 unique clicks per day up through 500 points (i.e. 50 days worth of clicking the link 10 times per day), then only one click per day thereafter.

So nobody is going to be rolling in illicit points from referral link abuse, other than making quiet personal fools of themselves if they get carried away before they realize there is a daily cap that's quite low.

+1 point per unique click once you go over your daily limit.

There are all kinds of tools to generate unique clicks via lists of proxy servers. They are mostly used for generating false information for youtube, myspace, google ads, ...

When the auction comes around, I am guessing that there will be some people with a ludicrous number of points.

[Kyogissun]

Chris H. Fleming wrote...

Nukenin wrote...

As for the referral link clicks, note that they only count 10 unique clicks per day up through 500 points (i.e. 50 days worth of clicking the link 10 times per day), then only one click per day thereafter.

So nobody is going to be rolling in illicit points from referral link abuse, other than making quiet personal fools of themselves if they get carried away before they realize there is a daily cap that's quite low.

+1 point per unique click once you go over your daily limit.

There are all kinds of tools to generate unique clicks via lists of proxy servers. They are mostly used for generating false information for youtube, myspace, google ads, ...

When the auction comes around, I am guessing that there will be some people with a ludicrous number of points.

Not to whine or act selfish, but I gotta agree with this too.  A friend was nice enough to let me register his copy of Mass Effect 2 under my name, bless his soul, and now I'd be rather disappointed to know that there could be some jerks out there so... desparate to win and acquire what they want by...  Well, by means of exploiting something, that would make his attempts meaningless...

I mean it's fine that they want to win to but to go to use those kinds of methods in a sort of 'goodwill/giving back to the fans' event is really...  really mean. D:

I was hoping that maybe my 7000 tokens might net me a good shot at winning ONE of those nice PC's (or one of the laptops) but now that you point this out, I have a feeling I better just give up on that.

Still, at least there will be other things to win.  If I can't use those tokens to get myself one of those badass PC's, I'll just try and win him a copy of Dragon Age: Origins since he's still yet to get it.

Modifié par Kyogissun, 31 mars 2010 - 07:14 .

[Nighteye2]

purplesunset wrote...

lisakover wrote...

Screw you Bioware, apology not accepted.

This extreme response makes more sense to me than the other extremes who turned a complete 180 and said, "Thank you Bioware....for saying the obvious. I love you ! <3"

I don't think many people made a 180 - most people were just annoyed, kind of like as in an argument between friends.

And it doesn't matter that people in this thread already had suspicions - it matters that they have come out in the open with it themselves and offered an apology.

[Obtusifolius]

purplesunset wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...
Amen.

Did you guys actually read this response from Muzyka and  Zeschuk closely?


Here's what they said:

1) We're sorry for pissing you guys off...  we ran into legal problems and so we had to exclude most of you from the 'celebration'.  (translation:  I know we promised you that this would be an epic community event, but it turned out to be  a much smaller  national community event... sorry for lying)

2) We vaguely promise to make it up to you in the future.  (Translation:  Please accept  a deferred promise from us, now.  We won't burn you again.  tee-hee)

3)  Oh, guess what!  despite your rage, this Bazaar is a HUGE success so far!  (translation:  Muahahahahaha!)

4)  Thank you!  (translation:  Muahahahah!  we got your money.  so thanks for that!


^you know what?  screw you, bioware. 

I partially  agree with you.  I do NOT think Bioware has sunk to those depths as yet. I don't think Bioware is sitting in a dark corner twirling his moustache menacingly. ( 'cause we all know that a villain without  a moustache is worthless)

I think what's happening is that the times have changed, and they are doing what they feel they must to survive financially. Unfortunately, they feel that it must involve doing things which are highly unprincipled. It's the difference between a cutpurse who feels he is doing what he must to survive and a rich tax collector who desires even more money from the starving peasants. Both are villains, but the former justifies it to himself by saying that he must do it (while completely ignoring other legal and ethical options)

I don't think Bioware has reached the point of the tax collector. That's a whole other level of villain who doesn't even need to justify it to himself.

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ooops, it seems that discussions from my college classes are spilling out here

I like this post.

[Alyka]

As I stated yesterday in my post:

Alyka wrote...

The only three explainations I can come up with is:
1: EA/Bioware made an epic fail.Plain and simple.
2: They plan on having a bazaar for the other countries later on.
3: It's an April Fool's joke.

And they responded with:

Ray Muzyka wrote...

Hi everyone - 
   
 
The BioWare Bazaar was launched this week as the start of a year-long celebration around BioWare’s 15th anniversary. 


We
recognize that BioWare has a global community, and the Bazaar this week
was originally intended to be an international event to reflect our
truly global fanbase. Unfortunately, we encountered some last-minute
legal complications around how contests can be structured in different
parts of the world that prevented us from including all territories in
this first event, even though that was our original goal.  And for
that, we sincerely apologize – our goal with this sort of celebration is to show all our fans worldwide how much we appreciate your support!


BioWare
definitely really values all members of our world-wide Community, no
matter where you live.  Accordingly, in the coming weeks, we will be
announcing details about future events specifically for fans living in
those territories which were excluded from participating in the first
BioWare Bazaar.  The future events will be a bit different from the
first Bazaar in how they’re set up and structured, but our goal is to
feature the same caliber of awesome prizes and great BioWare
collectibles.  We’ll announce more details in the coming weeks


The
reception from those fans who have been able to take part in this first
event has been incredible – thank you for participating! - and we’re
looking forward to future events where we can enable fans from
additional territories to also join in the fun.


Thank you
all for your continued and ongoing support and participation in the
BioWare Community – we really appreciate all your support over the past
15 years, and the future will be even brighter!


Sincerely,


Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk
Co-founders, BioWare

That's good.

Modifié par Alyka, 31 mars 2010 - 11:52 .

[Finiffa]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

lisakover wrote...
Screw you Bioware, apology not accepted.

This.

Anyone who accepts this mock "apology" is dumber than a rock.

Dumb? No. realistic I think. We wanted an apology, we got one. Now you can choose to disbelieve and pointlessly rage on or disbelieve but still accept the apology for what its worth and move on. I do the latter because I honestly didnt loose any sleep over this even if I was disappointed and a angry.

[Alyka]

At least they apologized and are trying to do something about it. They could've just swept it under the rug and left us hanging.

[carlosjuero]

Here is what I see happening:



BioWare will come out with free stuff for everyone that cannot currently participate (they can't do it competition style because of the laws right?)... then folks who _can_ participate but were not lucky enough to 'win' one of the opinion questions on Twitter/spam enough links/etc will get annoyed because they never really had a chance to win anything anyway. Call me cynical but I can see that happening.

[Obtusifolius]

carlosjuero wrote...

Here is what I see happening:

BioWare will come out with free stuff for everyone that cannot currently participate (they can't do it competition style because of the laws right?)... then folks who _can_ participate but were not lucky enough to 'win' one of the opinion questions on Twitter/spam enough links/etc will get annoyed because they never really had a chance to win anything anyway. Call me cynical but I can see that happening.

You're obviously not that cynical if you seriously believe EA/BioWare are going to be giving free stuff to anyone.

[OfficerAbstinence]

Wow, this thread is still moving?

The damage has been done, and an apology was made. If you don't accept the apology, fine, quit.

Just stop whining because there's nothing YOU can do about it, unless you're a politician and can change an entire countries laws regarding contest eligibility.

[Obtusifolius]

OfficerAbstinence wrote...

Wow, this thread is still moving?
The damage has been done, and an apology was made. If you don't accept the apology, fine, quit.
Just stop whining because there's nothing YOU can do about it, unless you're a politician and can change an entire countries laws regarding contest eligibility.

Er... some people like whining.

[FrostyLazer]

whining doesn't get you anything. Accepting that they apologized and now work with Bioware to get something cool does

[DragonRageGT]

Ok, I hope to delete the Epic Fail video as soon as their promise come true. Meanwhile, I'm back doing my usual DA vids:



Dragon Age - Awakening - Game! Set! Match! - Oghren's Crash & Burn



Very short one, with my latest captured funny stuff.

[OfficerAbstinence]

Obtusifolius wrote...

OfficerAbstinence wrote...

Wow, this thread is still moving?
The damage has been done, and an apology was made. If you don't accept the apology, fine, quit.
Just stop whining because there's nothing YOU can do about it, unless you're a politician and can change an entire countries laws regarding contest eligibility.

Er... some people like whining.

Yeah. I know very well that nobody will listen to what I said. I just take any opportunity I can to point out idiocy

[Eshaye]

Nighteye2 wrote...

purplesunset wrote...

lisakover wrote...

Screw you Bioware, apology not accepted.

This extreme response makes more sense to me than the other extremes who turned a complete 180 and said, "Thank you Bioware....for saying the obvious. I love you ! <3"

I don't think many people made a 180 - most people were just annoyed, kind of like as in an argument between friends.

And it doesn't matter that people in this thread already had suspicions - it matters that they have come out in the open with it themselves and offered an apology.

That's exactly it, I'm a big fan and I won't drop my loyalty just because of a disappointment (no matter how epic..), but just like in any relationship I wanted an explanation, communication a little sign that yes we've heard you and we still care. 

And they have, so I'm happy. It`s like being angry with your boyfriend, but forgiving them as soon as you talk with them. It`s not a 180 that just how a caring dynamic works, if people hadn`t bat an eyelash at being excluded from this event that would have showed nobody cares two bits about BioWare and that is certainly not the case. 

[Obtusifolius]

FrostyLazer wrote...

whining doesn't get you anything. Accepting that they apologized and now work with Bioware to get something cool does

Yes but like I said, people like whining. And **** storms are always fun.

[Danielsun2]

bioware is caught in the eye of the storm as we scream aim and fire!

[Chris Priestly]

Ok folks, now that people are aware of the Bazaar and the aologyies made
yesterday, we are closing the threads in teh game forums (as teh Bazaar
is not directly game specific) and moving discussion to the Off Topic
forum. Please continue to discuss this there. http://social.biowar...tegory/13/index



LOCKDOWN!



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