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Cerberus is good. End of story.


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#51
Xaijin

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Calibration hides the pain.

but soon, ... soon

The whole universe will know calibration.

Modifié par Xaijin, 29 mars 2010 - 10:46 .


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Zulu_DFA

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smudboy wrote...

Hello, I am smudboy, and I like logic.


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Have a cookie, smudboy!

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

The Reapers are the end of all life as we know it. They are Evil.

Cerberus opposes the Reapers. Cerberus is Good.

(To Shepard's knowledge, nobody else is doing anything about the Reapers, which means Cerberus is the best.)

End of story (at least until the Reapers are history).

They will do anything possible to stop the threat and thats where many of species thinks Cerebus is evil. But the ends will justify the means.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

YES I also REALLY wanted to join the Enclave. The actual Brotherhood of Steel were complete pricks and the Lyons folk were useless. ****ing Bethesda


I actually loved that AI of the Enclave. Too bad I f*uckminded it enought to get it commit suicide.

I think it's cool the game let's you become an Spectre and Help Cerberus at the same time. Ah, yes "reapers"? How about Oh, no, we're F*cked you damn Turian?

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Maj.Pain007 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

The Reapers are the end of all life as we know it. They are Evil.

Cerberus opposes the Reapers. Cerberus is Good.

(To Shepard's knowledge, nobody else is doing anything about the Reapers, which means Cerberus is the best.)

End of story (at least until the Reapers are history).

They will do anything possible to stop the threat and thats where many of species thinks Cerebus is evil. But the ends will justify the means.


Yes. Because those very species (and individuals), that think Cerberus is evil, will not want to die, when the Reapers knock at the door.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 29 mars 2010 - 10:56 .


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I suffer Cerberus out of necessity.

I am disgusted and dismayed by my former allies for placing me in such an unpalatable position, and making that necessity possible. By choice I would not associate with them.

I recognize that Cerberus is a mixed organization containing individual members who may be good people with good motives akin to my own, who do not deserve blame for Cerberus's darker past deeds.

I know, deep down, that these people are only unfortunate cogs in a wheel whose true and intended goal is power over all other things, and at any price.

It is only that Cerberus knows that in order to achieve power, one must first survive - this is why they help me.

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is this a joke topic? because i can't take the OP comment on the first page seriously.

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Bigdoser wrote...

is this a joke topic? because i can't take the OP comment on the first page seriously.

Yeah, some of us have since derailed it.  or made fun of the OP.  Feel free to participate if you want.

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Bigdoser wrote...

is this a joke topic? because i can't take the OP comment on the first page seriously.


Yeah, pal. Formal logic is a big joke in our times.

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Onyx Jaguar

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Really? This is more like a shaking of the cabin than a derailment.

*This thread is gonna get Godwinned shortly

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 29 mars 2010 - 11:15 .


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It's like if there had been an alien invasion in the 1940s and nobody believed it but Hitler and Germany, who were the only ones willing to help us fight it.

They oppose the aliens. But that doesn't mean they're good.

Also - in b4 Godwin's Law comment.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 29 mars 2010 - 11:13 .


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GuardianAngel470

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Zulu, you have to see the inherent idiocy of starting a thread on a forum for discussion and saying in the thread OP that you are right and there is no discussion. You have to see that.





Please tell me you see it.

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GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Zulu, you have to see the inherent idiocy of starting a thread on a forum for discussion and saying in the thread OP that you are right and there is no discussion. You have to see that.


Please tell me you see it.


/end thread, /end thread!!!

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Really? This is more like a shaking of the cabin than a derailment.

*This thread is gonna get Godwinned shortly


That's probably true, but many of us are having a discussion outside of the topic.  Mainly about how stupid it is to post an OP and say there is no discussion.

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"Ah Yes - Cerberus" Good and caring organization working for the good of the galaxy and never actually murdered anybody... we have Dismissed that claims.

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Asheer_Khan wrote...

"Ah Yes - Cerberus" Good and caring organization working for the good of the galaxy and never actually murdered anybody... we have Dismissed that claims.


Dude, you do understand, that "Ah, yes... " turn of speech is used to say about something that is actually truth, however being dismissed by a dumb person?

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 29 mars 2010 - 11:36 .


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Even TIM admits that Cereberus is evil. IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE GAME.



"You know, Cereberus is not as evil as you think." The Illusive man using semantics to downplay the grandiose evil of Cereberus.

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OverlordNexas wrote...

Cerberus is bad.

The Reapers are bad.

The Reapers have the bigger stick.

The Reapers are badder (dudes).


are you a bad enough dude to stop the reapers?

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

"Ah Yes - Cerberus" Good and caring organization working for the good of the galaxy and never actually murdered anybody... we have Dismissed that claims.


Dude, you do understand, that "Ah, yes... " turn of speech is used to say about something that is actually truth, however being dismissed by a dumb person?


Dont push me to report you.

God i wish this forum will have some moderators which could shut down thread like this before people like you start smear everybody who dare to disagree whit your sick view of the game events.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

is this a joke topic? because i can't take the OP comment on the first page seriously.


Yeah, pal. Formal logic is a big joke in our times.


actually your logic is very flawed.

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TheLostGenius wrote...

Even TIM admits that Cereberus is evil. IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE GAME.

"You know, Cereberus is not as evil as you think." The Illusive man using semantics to downplay the grandiose evil of Cereberus.


Erm... while I agree that Cerberus is bad... I think that this is just TIM acknowledging that he knows that others think Cerberus is evil...

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Nightwriter wrote...

Commander_David wrote...

God Bless Cerberus


No! Cerberus is not good! Not good! They are evil! EEEEVIIIIIIIL!!!!

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haha, This

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Who know who else would probably be good by the OP's judgment?



The Gestapo!

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Zulu_DFA

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TheLostGenius wrote...

Even TIM admits that Cereberus is evil. IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE GAME.

"You know, Cereberus is not as evil as you think." The Illusive man using semantics to downplay the grandiose evil of Cereberus.


Using that kind of semantics to prove your point will make it valid to use the dialogue with Jacob  IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE GAME as absolute proof of my "Cerberus = part of the Alliance" theory:

Jacob: ~~we're working for Cerberus.
Shepard: Cerberus? I think I ran into some of their projects when I was investigating Saren. They are some sort of pro-human spliter group.
Jacob: That's what the Alliance wants people to believe.

So do you concede I am right on that one?

Also, by the rules of logic, "Not as evil, as you think", might imply "Not evil at all" as well as "evil, but not very" (which you're trying to pull here, I think).

Logic > Semantics.