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Cerberus is good. End of story.


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#101
enormousmoonboots

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Zulu is in love?


With TIM by way of Martin Sheen, yes.



I guarantee you Cerberus had no supporters before that velvet voice.

#102
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Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

You're all nothing but Gestapo. All of you.


"You humans are all racist!!!"

*facepalm* Yes, we heard that already.


It needs to be brought regularly lest you forget your blinding racism.

#103
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Nightwriter wrote...

The enemy of your enemy is only your friend so long as your mutual enemy is alive.

Once you've killed the enemy, sh*t changes. Don't think it won't in ME3, just as soon as the Reapers are dead.

TIM will be all, "Excellent, the Reapers are gone... now - THE GENOCIDE OF ALL ADVANCED RACES OTHER THAN HUMANITY!!! MWAH HAHAHA!!!"

Shepard: "Wait - what?"


So, Cerberus is good. For now.

#104
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polyorpheus wrote...

As a counter-argument to the "friend of my friend is my enemy": What if Cerberus is WW2 Russia and the Reapers are **** Germany? For me, "good" and "bad" depends on what side you're on and what your viewpoints are, not necessarily inherent on the entities involved.


"Evil is a point of view" as Palpatine would say? The Red Army exercised inexcusable behavior towards innocent German people, so I'd say that for these war crimes (and many others) they're just as bad as the Third Reich.  Both sides commited awful crimes, but the Red Army itself was more brutal than the German Wehrmacht.  The leadership of **** Germany was most at fault, and their hate crimes towards the Jewish people are inexcusable, but in Russia's case the entire Red Army was responsible.  So there ya go.  A people, or organization as a whole cannot be entirely evil.  There are always good people involved.  Although Cerberus has many questionable actions (see Hades' Dogs in ME1) they are able to provide some redemption in ME2.  The Illusive Man is still a neutral personality at best, but Miranda and Jacob prove to be good people.

#105
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InvaderErl wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

You're all nothing but Gestapo. All of you.


"You humans are all racist!!!"

*facepalm* Yes, we heard that already.


It needs to be brought regularly lest you forget your blinding racism.


Or, lest you forget how morally superior to us you are.

#106
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Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.

#107
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enormousmoonboots wrote...

Zulu is in love?

With TIM by way of Martin Sheen, yes.

I guarantee you Cerberus had no supporters before that velvet voice.


Why must you hate on the Martin Sheen love?

#108
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Miranda is an amoral killer who uses people like tools. Nothing good about her. She's Jack with Cerberus immunity. Which is very probably why they hate each other's guts. They're exactly like minus refinement.

Modifié par Xaijin, 30 mars 2010 - 12:18 .


#109
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enormousmoonboots wrote...

Poetry?! You gonna bore enemy to death, marine?

Who'd'ya think you're kiddin'
He's the Earth and heaven to you
Try to keep it hidden
Honey, we can see right through you

Not recognizing Hercules? For shame, people...


www.youtube.com/watch
classic.

#110
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Xaijin wrote...

Miranda is an amoral killer who uses people like tools. Nothing good about her. She's Jack with Cerberus immunity. Which is very probably why they hate each other's guts. They're exactly like minus refinement.


If you're a paragon she rejects the Illusive Man to side with Shepard destroying the Reaper Production Facility.  Good in the end.  Jack is just a maniac who hates everyone.  

#111
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InvaderErl wrote...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.


Oh, look, he called me ADOLF!!! How mean of him! I'm soooo insulted!Image IPB

Should I report him know?Image IPB

Or give him the last last chance to be civil?Image IPB

#112
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InvaderErl wrote...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.


Fun fact, reflections in irony: did anyone know Adolf means "noble hero"?

#113
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Jack has issues and trauma. Miranda has one "issue" and a complete lack of morals or regard for life, in addition to the standard racist  "loyalist" Cerberus-for-life package.

Modifié par Xaijin, 30 mars 2010 - 12:25 .


#114
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They're not good, they are just fighting the people that are evil.  They don't stand for things that I would argue makes someone good.

#115
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Until I get the cyanide tooth and ocular flashbang put there by Cerberus removed I have no comment.

#116
InvaderErl

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.


Oh, look, he called me ADOLF!!! How mean of him! I'm soooo insulted!Image IPB

Should I report him know?Image IPB

Or give him the last last chance to be civil?Image IPB


Image IPB


Nightwriter wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Yes.
Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.


Fun fact,
reflections in irony: did anyone know Adolf means "noble hero"?


SILENCE, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR TRIVIA.

And no I did not know that, thank you very much.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 30 mars 2010 - 12:26 .


#117
Zulu_DFA

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glacier1701 wrote...

Until I get the cyanide tooth and ocular flashbang put there by Cerberus removed I have no comment.


Smart you are!

#118
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point being Cerberus is neither good nor bad. They are just what they are. Selfish!

#119
Zulu_DFA

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InvaderErl wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.


Oh, look, he called me ADOLF!!! How mean of him! I'm soooo insulted!Image IPB

Should I report him know?Image IPB

Or give him the last last chance to be civil?Image IPB


Image IPB


Just look in the mirror, pal.

#120
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Noble Hero Hitler has a nice ring to it eh?

#121
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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Noble Hero Hitler has a nice ring to it eh?

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#122
Xaijin

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Sounds like Japanese band.

#123
InvaderErl

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.


Oh, look, he called me ADOLF!!! How mean of him! I'm soooo insulted!Image IPB

Should I report him know?Image IPB

Or give him the last last chance to be civil?Image IPB


Image IPB


Just look in the mirror, pal.



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Modifié par InvaderErl, 30 mars 2010 - 12:32 .


#124
GuardianAngel470

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

You're all nothing but Gestapo. All of you.


"You humans are all racist!!!"

*facepalm* Yes, we heard that already.


It needs to be brought regularly lest you forget your blinding racism.


Or, lest you forget how morally superior to us you are.

I'm glad you realize the truth.

#125
Zulu_DFA

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GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

You're all nothing but Gestapo. All of you.


"You humans are all racist!!!"

*facepalm* Yes, we heard that already.


It needs to be brought regularly lest you forget your blinding racism.


Or, lest you forget how morally superior to us you are.

I'm glad you realize the truth.


Sure I realize the truth.

The truth is you believe you are morally superior. Which tells me nothing about whether you are morally superior or not.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 30 mars 2010 - 12:47 .