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[Kileyan]

Nightwriter wrote...

The enemy of your enemy is only your friend so long as your mutual enemy is alive.

Once you've killed the enemy, sh*t changes. Don't think it won't in ME3, just as soon as the Reapers are dead.

TIM will be all, "Excellent, the Reapers are gone... now - THE GENOCIDE OF ALL ADVANCED RACES OTHER THAN HUMANITY!!! MWAH HAHAHA!!!"

Shepard: "Wait - what?"

I started to type this a few time, but didn't want to in this thread.

Guess I will, and I totally agree. The best ME3 ending to me, assuming we beat the reapers is that the game won't end with the final reaper battle. I still have issues to resolve, unfinished business. No matter how hard Bioware tried to retcon Cerebus, I remember their antics in ME1. After the reapers are defeated, I want a couple more missions to bring down Cerebus. Much like Cerebus used me, I used them. I don't like them, and want nothing more than once our mutual enemy is gone, to take them down as well.

I will be pissed if the game ends and IM rides off into the sunset to continue his agenda.

Modifié par Kileyan, 30 mars 2010 - 12:42 .

[Zulu_DFA]

InvaderErl wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.

Oh, look, he called me ADOLF!!! How mean of him! I'm soooo insulted!

Should I report him know?

Or give him the last last chance to be civil?

Just look in the mirror, pal.

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You need to click here.

[Raphael diSanto]

War makes for strange bedfellows.

[Onyx Jaguar]

!!!!!



Damn, look at how tight those pants are.

[Juztinb42]

Kileyan wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The enemy of your enemy is only your friend so long as your mutual enemy is alive.

Once you've killed the enemy, sh*t changes. Don't think it won't in ME3, just as soon as the Reapers are dead.

TIM will be all, "Excellent, the Reapers are gone... now - THE GENOCIDE OF ALL ADVANCED RACES OTHER THAN HUMANITY!!! MWAH HAHAHA!!!"

Shepard: "Wait - what?"

I started to type this a few time, but didn't want to in this thread.

Guess I will, and I totally agree. The best ME3 ending to me, assuming we beat the reapers is that the game won't end with the final reaper battle. I still have issues to resolve, unfinished business. No matter how hard Bioware tried to retcon Cerebus, I remember their antics in ME1. After the reapers are defeated, I want a couple more missions to bring down Cerebus. Much like Cerebus used me, I used them. I don't like them, and want nothing more than once our mutual enemy is gone, to take them down as well.

I will be pissed if the game ends and IM rides off into the sunset to continue his agenda.

Definitely, they killed a lot of innocent people.  It would be anti-climactic to have Cerberus still exist.  I hope it can be an epilogue, sort of like the end of Casino Royale when everything is just about over, then Bond shoots the guy in the leg to set Quantum of Solace up.  Except I'd rather send IM to a prison ship for the rest of his life.

[BrutalWolfs]

Cerberus is evil.





....Thats...uh...all.

[Zulu_DFA]

Juztinb42 wrote...

Kileyan wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The enemy of your enemy is only your friend so long as your mutual enemy is alive.

Once you've killed the enemy, sh*t changes. Don't think it won't in ME3, just as soon as the Reapers are dead.

TIM will be all, "Excellent, the Reapers are gone... now - THE GENOCIDE OF ALL ADVANCED RACES OTHER THAN HUMANITY!!! MWAH HAHAHA!!!"

Shepard: "Wait - what?"

I started to type this a few time, but didn't want to in this thread.

Guess I will, and I totally agree. The best ME3 ending to me, assuming we beat the reapers is that the game won't end with the final reaper battle. I still have issues to resolve, unfinished business. No matter how hard Bioware tried to retcon Cerebus, I remember their antics in ME1. After the reapers are defeated, I want a couple more missions to bring down Cerebus. Much like Cerebus used me, I used them. I don't like them, and want nothing more than once our mutual enemy is gone, to take them down as well.

I will be pissed if the game ends and IM rides off into the sunset to continue his agenda.

Definitely, they killed a lot of innocent people.  It would be anti-climactic to have Cerberus still exist.  I hope it can be an epilogue, sort of like the end of Casino Royale when everything is just about over, then Bond shoots the guy in the leg to set Quantum of Solace up.  Except I'd rather send IM to a prison ship for the rest of his life.

James Bond... what a cheezy stuff.

[Zulu_DFA]

BrutalWolfs wrote...

Cerberus is evil.


....Thats...uh...all.

Diagnosis: subject indoctrinated, not salvageable.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 30 mars 2010 - 12:54 .

[Arijharn]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

"Ah Yes - Cerberus" Good and caring organization working for the good of the galaxy and never actually murdered anybody... we have Dismissed that claims.

Is the System's Alliance itself truly so different? What about the Council with their whole 'Spectre's - beyond the law.'

You can't pick and choose which fact to acknowledge any more than those that are pro-Cerberus...

[Nightwriter]

Kileyan wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The enemy of your enemy is only your friend so long as your mutual enemy is alive.

Once you've killed the enemy, sh*t changes. Don't think it won't in ME3, just as soon as the Reapers are dead.

TIM will be all, "Excellent, the Reapers are gone... now - THE GENOCIDE OF ALL ADVANCED RACES OTHER THAN HUMANITY!!! MWAH HAHAHA!!!"

Shepard: "Wait - what?"

I started to type this a few time, but didn't want to in this thread.

Guess I will, and I totally agree. The best ME3 ending to me, assuming we beat the reapers is that the game won't end with the final reaper battle. I still have issues to resolve, unfinished business. No matter how hard Bioware tried to retcon Cerebus, I remember their antics in ME1. After the reapers are defeated, I want a couple more missions to bring down Cerebus. Much like Cerebus used me, I used them. I don't like them, and want nothing more than once our mutual enemy is gone, to take them down as well.

I will be pissed if the game ends and IM rides off into the sunset to continue his agenda.

I agree.

Though I do wonder, if you destroyed the base and everyone with you who worked for Cerberus pretty much gives TIM the finger, if you'll be working with them at all in ME3, or receiving their help with the Reapers.

[Sajuro]

Juztinb42 wrote...

Kileyan wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The enemy of your enemy is only your friend so long as your mutual enemy is alive.

Once you've killed the enemy, sh*t changes. Don't think it won't in ME3, just as soon as the Reapers are dead.

TIM will be all, "Excellent, the Reapers are gone... now - THE GENOCIDE OF ALL ADVANCED RACES OTHER THAN HUMANITY!!! MWAH HAHAHA!!!"

Shepard: "Wait - what?"

I started to type this a few time, but didn't want to in this thread.

Guess I will, and I totally agree. The best ME3 ending to me, assuming we beat the reapers is that the game won't end with the final reaper battle. I still have issues to resolve, unfinished business. No matter how hard Bioware tried to retcon Cerebus, I remember their antics in ME1. After the reapers are defeated, I want a couple more missions to bring down Cerebus. Much like Cerebus used me, I used them. I don't like them, and want nothing more than once our mutual enemy is gone, to take them down as well.

I will be pissed if the game ends and IM rides off into the sunset to continue his agenda.

Definitely, they killed a lot of innocent people.  It would be anti-climactic to have Cerberus still exist.  I hope it can be an epilogue, sort of like the end of Casino Royale when everything is just about over, then Bond shoots the guy in the leg to set Quantum of Solace up.  Except I'd rather send IM to a prison ship for the rest of his life.

The Illusive man is walking around in his room when a communication from Shepherd comes in. "Shepherd, what do you have to sa?" Sees it is actually Tali who flips him off "What? where is shepherd?" -gets sniped in the leg-
Shepherd walks up with a highpowered sniper rifle and Illusive man asks "What the hell Shepherd, we had a DEAL."
Shepherd reloads "Yeah," he aims it at the illusive man's head, bringing up the trigger choices between renegade and paragon
Pulls Paragon
"Deal's off" Shepherd shoots Illusive Man in the head. "Tali, get Joker to pick me up, we have some dog hunting to do."

[Zulu_DFA]

Arijharn wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

"Ah Yes - Cerberus" Good and caring organization working for the good of the galaxy and never actually murdered anybody... we have Dismissed that claims.

Is the System's Alliance itself truly so different? What about the Council with their whole 'Spectre's - beyond the law.'

You can't pick and choose which fact to acknowledge any more than those that are pro-Cerberus...

The point is all those pro et contras are actually irrelevant in the face of the Reapers. The Cerberus are the only ones that stand against them, and this make them what we call "good". And all the whining about Kahoku, Akuze and other dirty pranks of TIM, just tells that the person whining does not take the Reapers seriously.

It's like TIM is a Yakuza boss in Nagasaki, who is the only one that believes the nuclear strike is imminent. Everyone else doesn't care.

[Sajuro]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

"Ah Yes - Cerberus" Good and caring organization working for the good of the galaxy and never actually murdered anybody... we have Dismissed that claims.

Is the System's Alliance itself truly so different? What about the Council with their whole 'Spectre's - beyond the law.'

You can't pick and choose which fact to acknowledge any more than those that are pro-Cerberus...

The point is all those pro et contras are actually irrelevant in the face of the Reapers. The Cerberus are the only ones that stand against them, and this make them what we call "good". And all the whining about Kahoku, Akuze and other dirty pranks of TIM, just tells that the person whining does not take the Reapers seriously.

It's like TIM is a Yakuza boss in Nagasaki, who is the only one that believes the nuclear strike is imminent. Everyone else doesn't care.

I do not think that the **** that cerberus pulls during Mass Effect 1 could be called 'pranks'. would that make shooting puppies 'wacky hijinks'?

[Zulu_DFA]

Sajuro wrote...

Juztinb42 wrote...

Kileyan wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The enemy of your enemy is only your friend so long as your mutual enemy is alive.

Once you've killed the enemy, sh*t changes. Don't think it won't in ME3, just as soon as the Reapers are dead.

TIM will be all, "Excellent, the Reapers are gone... now - THE GENOCIDE OF ALL ADVANCED RACES OTHER THAN HUMANITY!!! MWAH HAHAHA!!!"

Shepard: "Wait - what?"

I started to type this a few time, but didn't want to in this thread.

Guess I will, and I totally agree. The best ME3 ending to me, assuming we beat the reapers is that the game won't end with the final reaper battle. I still have issues to resolve, unfinished business. No matter how hard Bioware tried to retcon Cerebus, I remember their antics in ME1. After the reapers are defeated, I want a couple more missions to bring down Cerebus. Much like Cerebus used me, I used them. I don't like them, and want nothing more than once our mutual enemy is gone, to take them down as well.

I will be pissed if the game ends and IM rides off into the sunset to continue his agenda.

Definitely, they killed a lot of innocent people.  It would be anti-climactic to have Cerberus still exist.  I hope it can be an epilogue, sort of like the end of Casino Royale when everything is just about over, then Bond shoots the guy in the leg to set Quantum of Solace up.  Except I'd rather send IM to a prison ship for the rest of his life.

The Illusive man is walking around in his room when a communication from Shepherd comes in. "Shepherd, what do you have to sa?" Sees it is actually Tali who flips him off "What? where is shepherd?" -gets sniped in the leg-
Shepherd walks up with a highpowered sniper rifle and Illusive man asks "What the hell Shepherd, we had a DEAL."
Shepherd reloads "Yeah," he aims it at the illusive man's head, bringing up the trigger choices between renegade and paragon
Pulls Paragon
"Deal's off" Shepherd shoots Illusive Man in the head. "Tali, get Joker to pick me up, we have some dog hunting to do."

You should lie down. You've had too much Red Sand recently, apparently.

[RenownedRyan]

Nightwriter wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.

Fun fact, reflections in irony: did anyone know Adolf means "noble hero"?

A common misconception. Adolf actually means "noble wolf."  Thus, Hitler named his private bunker the Wolf's Den, his dog Wolf, and post WWII the SS insurgents were named the Wehrwolves.

[JamieCOTC]

Nightwriter wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I won't let fear compromise who I am.

It's not about fear, stupid! It's about continuation of your kind.

That line was poorly written.

What my Shepard meant was,

"You're right, that base would be really useful. Too bad you're an irresponsible power crazy maniac. Now it must be destroyed. Jeez, thanks, Illusive Man."

Martin Sheen doesn't trust TIM.  'nuff said. 

[Zulu_DFA]

Sajuro wrote...

I do not think that the **** that cerberus pulls during Mass Effect 1 could be called 'pranks'. would that make shooting puppies 'wacky hijinks'?

No, shooting puppies is much worse than what Cerberus did.

[RenownedRyan]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

BrutalWolfs wrote...

Cerberus is evil.


....Thats...uh...all.

Diagnosis: subject indoctrinated, not salvageable.

You have forgotten Admiral Kahoku sir.  Cerberus at best has questionable motives.

Via Mass Effect Wiki:

"During the events of Mass Effect, Commander Shepard discovers that Cerberus
has conducted horrific experiments intended to create super soldiers,
including experiments on rachni
and Thorian Creepers. They accidentally
unleashed rachni on Listening Posts Alpha and Theta when their experimental
subjects -- shipped from Noveria
-- escaped from Depot Sigma-23. Cerberus also deliberately destroyed
a settlement on Chasca by turning the colonial pioneer team there
into Husks. A traumatised marine named Corporal Toombs also claimed that in one of their most
devastating experiments, Cerberus lured thresher maws to the colony on Akuze,
resulting in the notorious massacre, later capturing Toombs -- one of
the only survivors -- to conduct brutal tests.
There is also some indication that Cerberus protects its bases
from being found by hacking the Alliance database. Information on at
least two of their known planets in the astronomical database is
described as "surprisingly sparse," and may have been edited by Cerberus
agents to discourage casual explorers.
Things came to a head when Commander Shepard, investigating the
disappearance of a group of marines under Rear Admiral Kahoku, found that
Cerberus had lured them to a thresher maw nest using a distress beacon
(similar to the "experiment" they allegedly conducted on Akuze). After
being informed of their death, Kahoku bought information from the Shadow Broker and sent Shepard to track Cerberus down.
Shepard's team went to Binthu to take out Cerberus' research bases, but
not before Cerberus had Kahoku killed. Shepard then headed to Nepheron
to launch an assault on Cerberus' main base"

Cerberus can't be defined as good or evil.  They do whatever is in their investor's best interest, and thus, undertake some projects that undermine their Character as an organization.

[Sajuro]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I do not think that the **** that cerberus pulls during Mass Effect 1 could be called 'pranks'. would that make shooting puppies 'wacky hijinks'?

No, shooting puppies is much worse than what Cerberus did.

soooo.... Shooting puppies is wrong
but, Torturing Children, Siccing Thresher Maws on fifty marines, torturing survivor of Thresher Maw attack, and killing a squad of Alliance Soldiers by luring them into a thresher maw nest is A-OK

[Nightwriter]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

The point is all those pro et contras are actually irrelevant in the face of the Reapers. The Cerberus are the only ones that stand against them, and this make them what we call "good".

Ah. Now this is where we all disagree with you, the heart of the matter - what exactly is "good"? We seem to have different definitions of the word.

I believe that the fact that Cerberus are the only ones who will stand against the Reapers makes them needed, but not ultimately good. Fact is, if the Reapers weren't here, Cerberus wouldn't be good at all, not even by your definition of the word.

And all the whining about Kahoku, Akuze and other dirty pranks of TIM, just tells that the person whining does not take the Reapers seriously.

It's like TIM is a Yakuza boss in Nagasaki, who is the only one that believes the nuclear strike is imminent. Everyone else doesn't care.

Of course we take the Reapers seriously, that's why we're working with Cerberus when we don't want to. Cerberus are the only ones who've got their heads on straight. It kills me to say it, but it's true.

They're also power-hungry bastards who have committed serious crimes intentionally and who act only out of self-interest.

[RenownedRyan]

[/quote]

No, shooting puppies is much worse than what Cerberus did.[/quote]
soooo.... Shooting puppies is wrong
but, Torturing Children, Siccing Thresher Maws on fifty marines, torturing survivor of Thresher Maw attack, and killing a squad of Alliance Soldiers by luring them into a thresher maw nest is A-OK

[/quote]
You'd think my Shepard would have problems with this, since he has the Sole Survivor background, but I guess not.

[Zulu_DFA]

RenownedRyan wrote...
You have forgotten Admiral Kahoku sir.  Cerberus at best has questionable motives.

Admiral Kahoku and Cerberus motives are irrelevant in this thread.

But that said, Kahoku, who entered a deal with the Shadow Broker and passed information on a former (or so he thought) Alliance division to the representative of an alien power (you, Council), is a traitor to the Alliance. He got what was coming to him.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 30 mars 2010 - 01:22 .

[Nightwriter]

RenownedRyan wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me, ADOLF.

Fun fact, reflections in irony: did anyone know Adolf means "noble hero"?

A common misconception. Adolf actually means "noble wolf."  Thus, Hitler named his private bunker the Wolf's Den, his dog Wolf, and post WWII the SS insurgents were named the Wehrwolves.

I heard this from a German history major.

His ego will be most deflated when I tell him this.

...

... I do look forward to it. A bit of deflation is not unneeded.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 30 mars 2010 - 01:18 .

[RenownedRyan]

Zulu_DFA wrote...


It's like TIM is a Yakuza boss in Nagasaki, who is the only one that believes the nuclear strike is imminent. Everyone else doesn't care.

Offensive.