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[Desyndra]

Rob_R wrote...

The whole vanishing warden is a major disincentive to play.  You play thoughtfully to get the 'right' outcome, like DA:O.  You agonize over all decisions, cultivate relationships, set the scene for the Ferelden you believe in.  Going AWOL for no reason, and meeting your LI once in a Denerim bar is hardly the stuff to inspire another playthrough.

It's clear that Awakening is the end for the Warden you have (no epilogue save, he/she is waaaay overpowered etc etc).  Why not make it a feel-good one?  Ask the player a set of questions like in the coronation of DA:O and give them that ending.  Maybe I'm wrong here and the whole world apart from me wants to see their warden fall off a bridge at the end and be remembered as a malificar (with rumours of molesting Sandal)?

Yes we all know that you have to face your calling, but until then?  Why not end him/her as an epic Warden commander, hero of Ferelden, statue of you in Denerim and then move on to DA2?  Presumably a new warden chasing some swamp witch with an old god...

I don't quite agree that Awakening is definitely the end for the Warden. It may be, but there are quite a few tricks to reduce your power at the beginning of your next adventure. (e.g. you tried a dangerous ritual to cure the lethal side effect of the taint, and it almost killed you etc.). They pulled it off in Mass Effect 2, and probably the same will happen in Mass Effect 3.

We have no idea where the story line of the sequel will start. The ending screens saying that your warden vanished after a few years may hint that there is a plot brewing somewhere, and your warden may have left to investigate it secretly.

[Daneres]

Hmm. I read in another thread regarding epilogues for Awakening that your Human Noble Female who married Alistair and became his queen leaves Vigil's Keep soon after and returns to a "grinning Alistair" as she put it, and resumes her duties in the court and as queen. I did hear others where his wife disappeared without him, that his love disappeared with him - even if he was the king or the king married to Anora. I don't know. I better not get this ending. I better be able to either return to my husband in the end or disappear with him at the end. I didn't let him **** that skank and create a demon baby just so he could dump me again or I lose him somehow or something. Bite me!

[Miri1984]

"A few years" could mean two or it could mean thirty. "Disappeared" could mean for a few weeks or forever. I think it's really just a way to let the developers have our wardens doing something in the next expansion or full game. I think the way to get around this (and make you us all feel better about our HNF queen endings) is to think of it as a temporary epilogue - a bridge to the next game, rather than a total ending. I mean, in the epilogue cards for DAO it says Alistair and my HNF got married after six months and then toured Ferelden being wise and benevolent rulers and all that - but made no mention that for up to a year the Queen nipped off to Amaranthine to kill darkspawn on her own, which you would think most people would notice!

[Glottisthedriver]

I haven't played a fem. character, or even beaten DA:A. but I wonder if Alistair disappearing with you might be because the disappearance has to do with DA:O, you being the two Gray Wardens who survived the events. Perhaps something to do with Morrigan, esp. because the fact that if you both survived she must be pregnant.



Prob. not, and there prob. is no detailed or meaningful explanation, but it's food for thought.

[Lintanis]

Bioware might be setting it up for the next DLC, ready to start with new characters in the sequel

[Alikain]

AW mage also disappeared with King Alistair at the end. what i don't get is he broke up with her after the landsmeet.

[7th_Phoenix]

Lintanis wrote...

Bioware might be setting it up for the next DLC, ready to start with new characters in the sequel

Or better yet upcoming expansions... hell, the sequel (see first link below).

http://www.thatvideo...r-dragon-age-2/

There's a thread on this too http://social.biowar...7/index/2311281

[guytza]

Maybe Mel Brooks was wrong, and it's not "good to be the king".
Since I have a HF-Queen-Origin-ending (  ), I'll have to import it and play it through just to see what the epilogue says about it all.

Thanks for inspiring me to keep playing her!

[Bratt1204]

Desyndra wrote...

Rob_R wrote...

The whole vanishing warden is a major disincentive to play.  You play thoughtfully to get the 'right' outcome, like DA:O.  You agonize over all decisions, cultivate relationships, set the scene for the Ferelden you believe in.  Going AWOL for no reason, and meeting your LI once in a Denerim bar is hardly the stuff to inspire another playthrough.

It's clear that Awakening is the end for the Warden you have (no epilogue save, he/she is waaaay overpowered etc etc).  Why not make it a feel-good one?  Ask the player a set of questions like in the coronation of DA:O and give them that ending.  Maybe I'm wrong here and the whole world apart from me wants to see their warden fall off a bridge at the end and be remembered as a malificar (with rumours of molesting Sandal)?

Yes we all know that you have to face your calling, but until then?  Why not end him/her as an epic Warden commander, hero of Ferelden, statue of you in Denerim and then move on to DA2?  Presumably a new warden chasing some swamp witch with an old god...

I don't quite agree that Awakening is definitely the end for the Warden. It may be, but there are quite a few tricks to reduce your power at the beginning of your next adventure. (e.g. you tried a dangerous ritual to cure the lethal side effect of the taint, and it almost killed you etc.). They pulled it off in Mass Effect 2, and probably the same will happen in Mass Effect 3.

We have no idea where the story line of the sequel will start. The ending screens saying that your warden vanished after a few years may hint that there is a plot brewing somewhere, and your warden may have left to investigate it secretly.

Nor do I. I hope if they plan on more DLC/expansions, that they will continue from DA:O and not from Awakening.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

e_prkr wrote...

Or it could be that the whole "disappears" thing means that their time has come and they make the trek to the deep roads without holding a press conference.

[hpjay]

Isuina wrote...

I just finished my play through of Awakenings with my FH rogue who married Alistair and became Queen, and I have read a few posts about the epilogues about the FH's who were queens and none of them, including mine, disappear with Alistair in the end snippet :'(  My question is why? I don't see how it makes sense really, considering I even hardened him in Origins (although i didn't really have to) so he's more likely to follow me, I don't see how he wouldn't come with me, or I go with him.  I have also read that other romance lines with Alistair (ie magies) he does run off with them... so he'll go with his mistress but not his wife? i know i'm probably reading way too much into it, and i know it's only a game, but its really took a lot of 'oomph' out of the game for me, especially if/when there is another expansion comes out that follows on from this and i end up Alistairless

Hmmmm....  I just finished Awakenings and I got the ending where you run off with Alistair.   He was King so I returned to court to hang out with him a bit before we vanished together.  

This was odd.  While I did romance him, I didn't harden Alistair.  I didn't make him King.  I didn't do the Dark Ritual. I didn't leave him at the Denerim gates.  Yes, that means he died at the end of Origins.   And sure enough Anora was queen at the beging of Awakenings.

Despite all of that my epilogue in Awakenings had me reunite with my love who apparently rose fro the dead and deposed Anora, just so we could be together.

Can you say BUG!!!

[Mary Kirby]

rak72 wrote...

We had to have him sleep with our best friend, knock her up with a demon baby while we are barren, got screwed with the snow globe...

Okay, I just have to ask... what on earth did a snow globe of Anora and Cailan ever do to you?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Mary Kirby wrote...

rak72 wrote...

We had to have him sleep with our best friend, knock her up with a demon baby while we are barren, got screwed with the snow globe...

Okay, I just have to ask... what on earth did a snow globe of Anora and Cailan ever do to you?

There is Anora in it of course.

[Stippling]

rak72 wrote...

We had to have him sleep with our best friend, knock her up with a demon baby while we are barren, got screwed with the snow globe...

C_____A____I____L____A____N

I can't believe people are mixing this up. If you can't even remember your love interests name then maybe he should fool around with Anora.

P.S. Oh wow this is old.

Modifié par Stippling, 25 avril 2010 - 03:49 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I just finished DA:A. One thing that I noticed for all of you HNF's is that during the game Anders asks you a question on what you will do when this task is done. There are about 4 dialogue options. I choose returning to court and I think this why I got this ending. I got the happy ending where I return to court with my husband waiting on the steps grinning ear to ear.

Hmmm, was this a test for me that hubby sent me on?  Naughty boy!

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 25 avril 2010 - 09:57 .

[Terastar]

In both of my turns through the game I did not harden Alistair. One time I made Anora queen. At the end of Awakenings Alistair and I would be together and have many adventures and our tale was to be finished. The next time Alistair was King and I his Queen. I did answer Anders question that I would return to court and at the end Alistair was there to greet me grinning from ear to ear. So maybe this does have an effect of the ending scene. But only I disappeared for a few years. I guess the King had other things to do.

[Feraele]

Mary Kirby wrote...

rak72 wrote...

We had to have him sleep with our best friend, knock her up with a demon baby while we are barren, got screwed with the snow globe...

Okay, I just have to ask... what on earth did a snow globe of Anora and Cailan ever do to you?

It rained on Rak's parade   hehe

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Terastar wrote...

In both of my turns through the game I did not harden Alistair. One time I made Anora queen. At the end of Awakenings Alistair and I would be together and have many adventures and our tale was to be finished. The next time Alistair was King and I his Queen. I did answer Anders question that I would return to court and at the end Alistair was there to greet me grinning from ear to ear. So maybe this does have an effect of the ending scene. But only I disappeared for a few years. I guess the King had other things to do.

Do you walk away from the Grey Wardens and help rebuild Amaranthine because the people in that region needed help?  This was my take.  Does saving the keep or the town make a difference with the HNF ending?

[Tokion]

rak72 wrote...

We had to have him sleep with our best friend, knock her up with a demon baby while we are barren, got screwed with the snow globe... we just want to disappear together and be happy. Maybe go to the Kocarri Wilds, and live in Flemeth's hut.

Edit - Not to mention that the whole DR took place in MY bed!!!!!  Just keep rubbin that salt in the  wounds

Don't let Alistair sleep with Morrigan? Not that it matters anyways because your hero will still live if you made the ultimate sacrifice. (= = )

[Patriciachr34]

I'm thinking about the whole King & Queen thing.  Someone has to
rule Ferelden.  If you are Queen and Alistair is King then Alistair would be duty bound to stay in Ferleden to
oversee her affairs.  You on the other hand have more freedom to roam is
it were.  However, if you are Alistair's mistress and Alistair is
married to Anora, Alistair can leave Ferelden safely in Anora's hands
and do whatever he wants.  Frankly I think Anora would be happy to have
him out of her life and would care less if he never came back.

I almost always keep Alistair as a GW and let Anora rule.  My ending in Awakening says that Alistair and I disappear after I resign my commander position and hints that we may be on a discreet assignment from Weisshaupt.  In my conversation with Anders I've chosen both, "Whatever we want."; and, "That's a good start." to the whole conquering small nations prompt.  I do not know if these responses prompted the ending card I received, but this gives me hope that there will be an additional adventure for my PC and my LI in the future.

[StarSerenity]

all i have to simply say is wow... lol all i know is that alistar ran away with my mage so i'm happy ^^