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[westiex9]

We don't negotiate with terrorists!.....



Fiona: errr west we are fighting darkspawn



West: oh....well i killed him because no matter how good his offer might sound it will have terrible consequences, The architect is not a good guy he just wants to manipulate you to his own ends.

[Stabbath123]

Grey Wardens have to die for them to give Arch blood? That sucks. I just thought they could cut themselves lol.

[Whailor]

Killed him. Sure I did listen what he had to say and considered his "points" but in the end it didn't matter. He's a darkspawn, intelligent one at that and thus by far more dangerous. Sure the Blights are bad but in a way they're still limited - it's a mass of unthinking "bodies" following the call of an Archdemon. Destroy it and they, mostly, disperse. In fact they usually always dispersed, only reason they didn't "this time" was exactly the Architect and the Mother. Well, Architect to begin with. And now he wishes to "free" the darkspawn from the clutches of Archdemons so that they become more intelligent? Only reason why Orzammas still stand, really, is that the darkspawn are a stupid mass. Make them intelligent and Orzammar will be wiped out. And intelligent darkspawn may not need the Archdemon but who's to say that the Architect won't suddenly decide to lead a "crusade" on his own? His word doesn't exactly carry much weight with me. And him being an ally - hardly. He's an "ally" as long as his goals match with yours, that is, if he has a strong opponent he can't deal with and who happens to be the opponent of Wardens as well. Once his opponents are wiped out and he pretty much commands all of the darkspawn, who are intelligent to boot.. I can bet that the crap will hit the fan.



Sure, having the chance for another, what, 2-3 Blights is bad but having intelligent aggressive darkspawn running around and uniting under one banner is just as bad. Heck, even worse. So from two evils I chose the smaller one - one intelligent Archdemon leading clueless stupid herd of darkspawn, instead of intelligent united darkspawn led by Architect. He's like Morrigan - play a friend and supportive fella but in reality have totally own agenda. His agenda is just more long term then Morrigan's and pretty surely would bite back later much worse.

[Andros_Hanarak]

I killed him. Because we are just 2 Archdemons away from the end of blights. Plus by the time of the next Blight, my Old God Son will be ruling Thedas anyways. Thanks Morrigan, so long and thanks for all the fish!

[Daemius]

I killed him without a second thought. I read the Calling, he's clearly not all he says is. In The Calling he wasn't all about just making the Darkspawn sentient. He also wanted to make all of dwarven/human/elvenkind into Ghoul-esque humanoids because he thinks that's the only way to have peace between the Darkspawn and other Humanoid races. I think that's just his nice way of saying "I want the Darkspawn to rule the world!"

[drvaughn1999]

He is a dark spawn, grey wardens kill dark spawn. It was easy for me to end his life.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

He's deffiently like a hannibal lector kinda evi using logicl as a manipulator making you think he wants to do some good. He really just wants to create a army that equals a human/dwarven/elven military force. He attacked vigils keep although claiming it was a "Misunderstanding" but taking grey wardens alive expermenting on them then bleeding them dry to create theses abominations.

He awoke the last archdemon that my PC's just killed.Cause of all that he dies everytime.

[DragonShepard138]

I would have, but he proved useful in the final battle with his inferno.

[Alikain]

I killed the Architect because they need the warden’s blood to be free. This means that the warden’s are in danger.

It very hard in the world of thedas, because at present even elves, do not have a place they could call home. To let the Architect and this intelligent darkspawn to live will only bring trouble to the world of thedas, soon they would want a land of they own. I don’t think the other races will just let them take what they themselves are already fighting for, and the rate at which the darkspawn reproduces is some to think about.

[Serissia]

I killed him, his plans are insane. After reading The Calling, I'll be killing him again too in my next play through. Even if I hadn't read the book I still couldn't justify keeping him alive. Absolutely no good can come of sentient darkspawn. The idea that all the darkspawn would see eye to eye with the Architect once freed is asinine, look what happened with Mother.

Additionally there's no way that darkspawn could live with the other races (humans, dwarves and elves) happily ever after. If it proceeded the way it did in The Calling where everyone would have to submit themselves to the taint it would ultimately be the end of all the other races since two tainted people can't reproduce.

Modifié par Serissia, 14 avril 2010 - 02:45 .

[Mystiana]

I killed him



do we -really- want "intelligent" darkspawn running around? plus he made Mother - who's to say he won't accidentally create something worse next time? plus his plan may seem like it'll save mankind, but in reality it would destroy it

[grenadetaggav]

even when the old gods are dead and theres no more blights the darkspawn will still be therte breeding its just the dwarves will get the brunt of it and where do you think the darkspawn will go after they wiped the dwarves letting the arcitect live might feel wrong in the short term but might prove right in the long term.



personally i have a 50 50 record with him

[mollari22]

dragonlips69 wrote...

There's only one thing that my black-hearted, blood-thirsty blood mage witch loves more than slaying darkspawn, and that's free clothing! Killing the Architect meant looting his body for the "robes of the Architect". Basically a win/win for her...

Sometimes you have to sacrifice something in the name of more fun later on. This whole "architect's plan" would serve well the goal of rebalancing (bring more chaos) to this pitiful world of Thedas, which is yielding under the grasp of Chantry for centuries. No individual/nation/civilization can progress under such circumstances, this have to change.

Modifié par mollari22, 14 avril 2010 - 11:12 .

[doctorofdarkness]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

 He attacked vigils keep although claiming it was a "Misunderstanding" but taking grey wardens alive expermenting on them then bleeding them dry to create theses abominations.

The Withered's first words are 'It has ended just as he foretold.' 

Which means the Architect wasn't lying to you when he told you he sent the Withered to ask for the Grey Wardens' help- it just means he was lying when he said he should have predicted that the Vigil's guards would react that way.  He knew, or guessed, that the meeting would end in bloodshed.

So he must have told the Withered, 'Ask for their help, but if they try to attack you, just grab the Wardens and go.'  Which isn't evil, exactly, just pragmatic, even though you can understand why he'd want to lie about it.

[NamiraWilhelm]

I slew him. He doesnt want to have to rely on an old god, so surely that'll make the darkspawn more dangerous if they can skip the finding an old god part?

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

doctorofdarkness wrote...

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

 He attacked vigils keep although claiming it was a "Misunderstanding" but taking grey wardens alive expermenting on them then bleeding them dry to create theses abominations.

The Withered's first words are 'It has ended just as he foretold.' 

Which means the Architect wasn't lying to you when he told you he sent the Withered to ask for the Grey Wardens' help- it just means he was lying when he said he should have predicted that the Vigil's guards would react that way.  He knew, or guessed, that the meeting would end in bloodshed.

So he must have told the Withered, 'Ask for their help, but if they try to attack you, just grab the Wardens and go.'  Which isn't evil, exactly, just pragmatic, even though you can understand why he'd want to lie about it.

Well if some monster takes my men and bleeds them dry hes dead. Im not going to allow him to walk away when the architect should have known that the guards would react that way seeing how a blight was just ended and groups of straggler darkspawn attack people all the time. I say hes more evil then the mother in most respects i heard that in the book "the calling" he wants to infect all of thedas with the taint so there is peace through out the land. After i heard that i was horrified and never let him live agian.

Also they came up from tunnels under the keep so i think he had every intention of just killing the soldiers and stealing all the wardens. Hes like an Evil doctor lol.

Modifié par OrlesianWardenCommander, 14 avril 2010 - 10:18 .

[irvigo]

tbh, i killed him because i didnt want smart darkspawns roam around. 1 thing that gave wardens great advantage is darkspawn are stupid, non-creative horde. Think if that horde was smart. And given the history between darkspawn and the rest of the world, darkspawn will never be a wanted race even if they were peaceful from then. And there is just too much bloody history, and there is no doubt chantry would just make a crusade against them. Then there would be in all-out war with a SMART race that outnumbers the whole world. It would be alot worse than current cycle

[Lantrov]

Letting the Architect live is just unwise IMO. Darkspawn by just existing cause life to be extinguished, so there's some ground for conflict there already.

Keep in mind that if the Darkspawn finally became one cohesive group without an Archdemon and decided to wage war against everyone else than we'd all be doomed for a couple of reasons. Reasons like the Darkspawn having main access to the Deep Roads which means they can pop up nearly anywhere and outflank/outmaneuver armies, vastly outnumbering all the population in Thedas, they are genetically stronger than the average human, elf, or dwarf without the experience in combat, and with some intelligence to go along with it, can make technological advances to match other armies as well as employ strategy/tactics to utterly crush them.

[Anakha6]

I killed him because he captured and experimented on me, I get so much rage at 'captured' scenarios in video games, especially if it happens during a cutscene. So when I met him again it was revenge time.

[Virtual winter]

In one playthrough I let him live, just to see what happens. But generally I kill him. Sentient Darkspawn just spell trouble for everyone.



The Architect himself could be completely honest and telling the absolute truth and being a sort of Darkspawn Ghandi, but in the end it doesn't matter. If the Darkspawn have sentience (although they must've had some intelligence before - forging weapons would be hard for an unthinking group) that means each individual Darkspawn can choose what to do. What if a new Darkspawn Hitler stands up who unites all the others against the surface?



As a Human/Elf/Dwarf I just can't, and won't, take that chance.

[Kerendar]

Virtual winter wrote...
If the Darkspawn have sentience (although they must've had some intelligence before - forging weapons would be hard for an unthinking group) that means each individual Darkspawn can choose what to do.

Your usual Joe-the-Hurlock is utterly mindless but Alphas and especially Emmisseries are intelligent and have been known to have the ability to talk. They just only ever would make some battlecry or curse their enemy in rage. Only thing that's new is that a darkspawn would pause to have a chat instead of rushing at any living being.

Modifié par Kerendar, 16 avril 2010 - 07:44 .

[svenus97]

In this situation I belive the end justifies the means.

My "best" Grey Warden (avatar) who is more neutral but leans towards the "good" side, who invoked the rite of annulment, cured the curse, picked Bhelen and preserved the anvil and didn't corrupt the urn didn't kill him. All means of these options may seem a little "evil" but in the end they all became good.

Bhelen is an excellent example, an "evil" character, but Orzammar flourishes under his rule.



I let the Architect live because I love his voice and he seems like a very awesome character, and I doubt BioWare won't use him in a sequal/expansion, although I can't see this possible for people who killed him.



But he still keeps his words, the raids stop, Deep Roads are quieter then ever.

[Urshakk]

He got slain. I would of liked to believe his plan, but he captured and experimented on me, sort of ruins what creditability he had with me. Plus he is still a darkspawn, rather kill him now then later.

Modifié par Urshakk, 16 avril 2010 - 08:32 .