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Mass Effect 1, was very tasteful and handled well. They even backed down and took out the same sex romance that was going to be there. 
Dragon Age pushed things, but no nudity, unless you mod. Still, it was handled well. You can't say they backed down there. 
I would have thought Mass Effect 2 would push it even more, I hoped for this, because I know BioWare can push things and do so tastefully...however, ME2 was a big step backwards.


I don't know; I actually thought ME2 beat DA:O by a country mile when it came to romance cutscenes. I mean, DA:O basically just had the same awkward animation recycled for all sex scenes, with just the faces swapped out - which included, of course, the inappropriate expressions and mysteriously appearing underwear. Those scenes weren't just bad, they were terrible to the point of being hilarious, and I actually did burst out laughing a few times.

ME2 didn't show as much skin, which I suppose might be disappointing in some respects, but at least the scenes made some sense in context - and more importantly, were actually specifically tailored to each romanceable character. 

Also, I believe there already is nudity in DA:O - just not in the romance scenes. Desire Demons, for example (and some might argue Broodmothers as well). So, given that they already crossed that line in the game, it makes even less sense that they'd suddenly retread when doing the romance cutscenes. 

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Bioware got the last laugh from the botched news event.

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9to82td wrote...

Bioware got the last laugh from the botched news event.

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THAT WHICH YOU KNOW AS BIOWARE IS YOUR SALVATION THROUGH DESTRUCTION

#104
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lol, watch the parody of this story, if yous haven't seen it. ... It's hillarious.

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Ironically, the same company that owns FOX, also owns IGN.


And
they used Hilary Goldstein's Shepard in that piece without IGN's
permission.  I remember those guys making fun of Fox News without
mercy.  I think Eric Brudvig still has a banner on his blog that makes
fun of FOX news.


I noticed that just now, they used direct footage from IGN's own site for that story. And I don't think Erik has that banner up, anymore. I can't seem to find it. If you know where it is, share it.


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JoshieoPandar wrote...

Ironically, the same company that owns FOX, also owns IGN.


This TOTALLY does not surprise me.  I suspected a connection, because...

when i saw this "scandal" after ME came out, i thought, "wow, that is the most genius piece of marketing ever, because:

a) people who freak out over there being 'sex' in a video game are likely not gamers. they are less likely to realize that there ARE ratings on these things, they typically have content filters OR the ability to choose what you're watching and (once i found out it was a bioware game) they're typically story-driven LIs that are in keeping with the story.

and

B) people who do game will either

1) want to check it out for themselves because of the idea of seeing boobies

2) want to check it out for the purposes of intellectual curiousity and because they want to investigate the claims of the 'news' for themselves

3) realize it's a bioware game and think w00t! another bioware game where there are love interests. gimme, gimme!"

any way you slice it, the (mass) effect (ha ha!) is that people who are not going to game WON'T buy it and will forget about it in a few days as yet another case of our society becoming full of filth and people who ARE going to game will keep the name rolling around in their heads for a week and then go check out the website, say, "ooh, hey, blue alien sex aside, that looks like a really friggin' awesome shooter/RPG game."

or, you know, maybe you bought it because of the blue alien sex. but either way, MARKETING GENIUS.


Maybe, good perspective. But I doubt it's really a marketing plan, any media out there will do anything to create a hyped up story. There's some ignorant and gullible people targetting mostly soccer mums out there, that would listen to this sorta crap, and all it would do is derail the sales for this game.

THIS <insert recent thing here> IS BAD FOR YOU, BECAUSE <insert some retarded reason here>.

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This is item will support the terrorist. Or Obama is ruining this country by making health care reform pass is that what you mean Joshhie.

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^Oh sorry. Says March 29th...... >___>

No I didn't mean it in that context.  Fox News looked bad over this debacle shortly after they did it in 08.  It's good that you are posting though.  People think that there is not enough nudity in ME2 because of this, but Bioware has stated to the contrary and DA would show evidence of this if it that were the case.

Because PR people *never* make things up to cover their own asses, right?

DA has no nudity, and it's sex scenes are things of comic hilarity.  It's self-censorship, and they're just trying to deny it.

Bioware has stated otherwise and DA also had s/s content which ME2 does not have.  It may be self censorship, but you don't know that for fact.  Saying they are just trying to deny it doesn't mean that they are.


The only reason ME1 was targeted was because the sex scene was briefly shown in the game's trailer.  It hinted at nudity, which set off prude alarms.  It was later found out that the girl/girl scene was a possibility, which set Faux News off more.  Regardless of what BioWare wants you to believe, their games after that report took a huge step backwards in terms of sexual content.  Clothed dry-humping and scenes of implied sex are a huge step back from the tasteful, romantic scenes shown in ME2. 

Regardless of BioWare's stated reasoning, this happened after the Faux News report, and comes off as self-censorship in response to the report.  They can say that it was 'artistic choice', but it still appears otherwise.

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RyrineaNara wrote...

This is item will support the terrorist. Or Obama is ruining this country by making health care reform pass is that what you mean Joshhie.


I'm an Aussie, so I got no idea what's going in American at the moment, lol.

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JoshieoPandar wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

This is item will support the terrorist. Or Obama is ruining this country by making health care reform pass is that what you mean Joshhie.


I'm an Aussie, so I got no idea what's going in American at the moment, lol.


A black president is there, uh, faux news.

#109
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A half-white president. From a kenyan perspective.

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Tlazolteotl wrote...

A half-white president. From a kenyan perspective.


YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE ALL RACIST

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JoshieoPandar wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

This is item will support the terrorist. Or Obama is ruining this country by making health care reform pass is that what you mean Joshhie.


I'm an Aussie, so I got no idea what's going in American at the moment, lol.


lol That the lasts thing is the health care reform, and fox news is going off on a tie raid right now. Its funny too see that Brown(Massachusetts Teds old set)   failed them. :innocent::POh, and hello from Texas. ;)

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Sago_mulch wrote...

JoshieoPandar wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

This is item will support the terrorist. Or Obama is ruining this country by making health care reform pass is that what you mean Joshhie.


I'm an Aussie, so I got no idea what's going in American at the moment, lol.


A black president is there, uh, faux news.


lol. That, I am aware of. What I'm not aware of, are the things he's doing good, or bad at the moment.

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**** Fox News.

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Booglarize wrote...
ME2 didn't show as much skin, which I suppose might be disappointing in some respects, but at least the scenes made some sense in context - and more importantly, were actually specifically tailored to each romanceable character.


This.  While I liked how ME1 handled the romance scene, it was the exact same scene with interchangable player models and slightly different dialogue. 

I'm slightly disappointed that Bioware toned them back, but I'm infinitely more appreciative that they took the time to make each romance special and tailor-made for each character.

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Sago_mulch wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...

A half-white president. From a kenyan perspective.


YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE ALL RACIST


YOU AMERICANS ARE ALL RACIST. TAKE ONE LOOK AT HIS MUM.

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Sago_mulch wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...

A half-white president. From a kenyan perspective.


YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE ALL RACIST

lol I just laugh at the bither movement myself. It doesn't help that they make real conspiracy theorist like myself look like nut jobs. I call people like that non back up Theorist, since they don't back up there claims with facts. :lol: Which I do back up my  claims with facts from the diffrent things I talk about. 

Edit: Fixed typo

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RyrineaNara wrote...

 [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie][smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]Oh, and hello from Texas. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]


G'day from Australia? =p

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RyrineaNara wrote...

Sago_mulch wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...

A half-white president. From a kenyan perspective.


YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE ALL RACIST


I am a conspiracy theoryist. 



so who shot kennedy then? did jews do 9/11?

lol

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Sago_mulch wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

Sago_mulch wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...

A half-white president. From a kenyan perspective.


YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE ALL RACIST


I am a conspiracy theoryist. 



so who shot kennedy then? did jews do 9/11?

lol


I.m not that crazy, but I do beleive their was more than one shooter with Kennedy or the SS got lazy in there invegation. There are to many weird things in that case imo.

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What about project echelon?

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Tlazolteotl wrote...

What about project echelon?


Meh don't know enough about it too make a conlusion on that one..

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RyrineaNara wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...

What about project echelon?


Meh don't know enough about it too make a conlusion on that one..


what's this?

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CIA imo.

But this thread's about bashing FOX still.

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RyrineaNara wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...

What about project echelon?


Meh don't know enough about it too make a conlusion on that one..


Well, I'd like to say google it, but the very fact that you google it would mean it knows you did.

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Titan98RG wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...

What about project echelon?


Meh don't know enough about it too make a conlusion on that one..


what's this?


Some short of Milatary thing that is sppoused to spy on us ect. Tiaz lol I'm not one thoese tin foail hat wheres types I am a normal sense person who just thinks the goverment does not tell you the whole truth.

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