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[Comrade Bork]

I really loved Ashley. She was by far my favorite character in Mass Effect. She seemed realistic, and I agreed with her viewpoints about the Council (for the most part). She had a very enlightened attitude, and seemed the most realistic to me because of her flaws. I will defend her no matter what.

[Wildecker]

BloodyT3hGreat wrote...

After making a topic like this in Gamefaqs, they all pretty much bashed the crap out of her

Does this board feel the same?

Well I'm no board. But I like her. She hasn't much for either the Council or the Turians, but I would guess that could have changed due to "exposure" to Wrex, Garrus and Tali. Liked her hiding behind poetry because she didn't have confidence in her own words coming out right.

Watching the Normandy die from a lifepod must have been bad. Hearing later that her Captain didn't make it in time must have been worse. Two years of looking at either a marker on a graveyard with an empty coffin underneath or at just another personnel file marked "MIA" can't have been fun. And after those two years all of a sudden there I am.

"I couldn't call you. I was dead. They've just brought me back a couple of days ago. Cerberus, the shady guys who kill marines and admirals to keep their secrets. Now tell me you missed me, give a hug and follow me to my lair ..." - no way.

I even like that "Big sorry, Skipper" mail.

[Spartas Husky]

Wildecker wrote...

BloodyT3hGreat wrote...

After making a topic like this in Gamefaqs, they all pretty much bashed the crap out of her

Does this board feel the same?

Well I'm no board. But I like her. She hasn't much for either the Council or the Turians, but I would guess that could have changed due to "exposure" to Wrex, Garrus and Tali. Liked her hiding behind poetry because she didn't have confidence in her own words coming out right.

Watching the Normandy die from a lifepod must have been bad. Hearing later that her Captain didn't make it in time must have been worse. Two years of looking at either a marker on a graveyard with an empty coffin underneath or at just another personnel file marked "MIA" can't have been fun. And after those two years all of a sudden there I am.

"I couldn't call you. I was dead. They've just brought me back a couple of days ago. Cerberus, the shady guys who kill marines and admirals to keep their secrets. Now tell me you missed me, give a hug and follow me to my lair ..." - no way.

I even like that "Big sorry, Skipper" mail.

I dont mind she, saying she could not come along. But that I was being brainwashed or something....that is where everything fell apart.

Liara could not come, she knew what I was doing had to be done, and nobody else could do it, she wasn't proud, but she said, she had something to do first.

Wrex, knew it had to be done, but said he had something to do first.

What did ash expected me to do.

"no no ash sorry, lets go back to the council, who are part to be responsable for me....sort of dying. For us being separated.

Or the alliance, the near complete political branch who turned their back on us, when soverign attack.....wait wait I thought you hated politicians....but you dont mind working for them."

ANd she has the right to judge me for taking w/e help I can get?? nice....very nice:whistle:

[RhedmondBarry]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

RhedmondBarry wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

LostInSanity wrote...

She died a hero, and for that I respect her.

Fixed that for ya, buddy.

[e]That said, both Ash and Kad die honorably, and it's more of a choice of who to kill rather than who to save. Out of sheer practicallity, since there are few powerful human biotics, I always save Kad.

There fixed it,  because it was right the first time.   The only time "an" is used before a word that begins with H is when the H is unsounded.  A fitting example: An honest mistake.  My parents installed me with an OCD to correct the usage of "an" and I in no way intended to be rude.  Just happens that way lol.

On topic: Ash has my respect because her death fueled my Shepard's rage in the first half of ME2, till Miranda straightened him out.  Overall her character is a very sweet woman, but I find all her poetry cheesy and her demeanor desperate.  Which is a turn off IMO.

"An Hero" is an internet meme, A very distasteful one. you can google it

Didn't know that, very distasteful indeed.  Must have been a morbid attempt at humor.  Still, at least you all now know what to do with the word "an" in reference to the letter H, hehe.

[hoysexyjew]

Spartas Husky wrote...

hoysexyjew wrote...

What a Twist wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Hate her, but I know she loves me even if she wasn't my love interest.


So simply hopefully in me3, I get to turn my back on her, leaving her, in distraught and totally sad...hopefully crying.

Man that will feel good.

That's just mean. What's wrong with you?

...
...


Oh @#$% it, I want to do that too.

Oh God, seconded. I really hope I can do that in Me3.

She reminds me of an ex girlfriend >

the only thing better than letting her die, is ignoring her completely.

I am a very vengeful person. ANd the greatest vengeance is not the one that satisfies me, but the one that causes the most dmg.

One thing she has shown to love more than me, is the legacy of her grandad. She wants to keep it, to clean the stain......god would be good to make her screw up so bad, she ends up worse than her grandfather.

And then, giving us an option NOT as a renegade, because she turned her back on everything she stood for and say.
ASh:
"god shepherd.....they came....and and you warned me to come with you now....my sister, she was taken....(drops on shepherds arm's)

ME:
"...I know ash, I know... my god.......I cna only think of 4 words to describe this.

ASH:
"what words?"

ME:
"IN YO FACE!!!!!!!!....or better yet. TOLD YOU SO.hahahahahahahaha"

ME:
"anyway love to stay and chat, but I got your mess to fix up now"

ASH:
"shepherd please they took my sister"

ME:
"Ash please I need to take down the collectors.......any of those sound familiar? hehehehehehe. But is ok, in the end, I didn't need you to stop em. I am sure you dont need me to save your sister. Here is 5 credits, call yourself a cab"

lol, Yes, just yes

[wrexfan32hanalei]

while most of my love went to wrex, I liked ash alright I guess until I took her and wrex to get fist and after wrex shoots him she pulled her gun on him and called him "krogan". that just hurt.

[Spartas Husky]

wrexfan32hanalei wrote...

while most of my love went to wrex, I liked ash alright I guess until I took her and wrex to get fist and after wrex shoots him she pulled her gun on him and called him "krogan". that just hurt.

she pulls a pistol on him???....dam I gota see that. Never taken ash and wrex....not kool ash not kool.

[Massadonious1]

No.



And I hate poetry.

[Wildecker]

Spartas Husky wrote...

wrexfan32hanalei wrote...

while most of my love went to wrex, I liked ash alright I guess until I took her and wrex to get fist and after wrex shoots him she pulled her gun on him and called him "krogan". that just hurt.

she pulls a pistol on him???....dam I gota see that. Never taken ash and wrex....not kool ash not kool.

Sure she does. And why not? - that big badass bounty hunter might just get ideas about shooting you, too, now that he has no use for you any longer ... cutting some loose ends for the Shadow Broker. After all the Quarian wanted to strike a deal with the Broker for some dirt on Saren that would go to you when you rescue her.

[Marilynn-22]

Ash is okay in my book.



Kaiden however, can't stand him.

[callofdoobie]

hoysexyjew wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

hoysexyjew wrote...

What a Twist wrote...

Spartas Husky wrote...

Hate her, but I know she loves me even if she wasn't my love interest.


So simply hopefully in me3, I get to turn my back on her, leaving her, in distraught and totally sad...hopefully crying.

Man that will feel good.

That's just mean. What's wrong with you?

...
...


Oh @#$% it, I want to do that too.

Oh God, seconded. I really hope I can do that in Me3.

She reminds me of an ex girlfriend >

the only thing better than letting her die, is ignoring her completely.

I am a very vengeful person. ANd the greatest vengeance is not the one that satisfies me, but the one that causes the most dmg.

One thing she has shown to love more than me, is the legacy of her grandad. She wants to keep it, to clean the stain......god would be good to make her screw up so bad, she ends up worse than her grandfather.

And then, giving us an option NOT as a renegade, because she turned her back on everything she stood for and say.
ASh:
"god shepherd.....they came....and and you warned me to come with you now....my sister, she was taken....(drops on shepherds arm's)

ME:
"...I know ash, I know... my god.......I cna only think of 4 words to describe this.

ASH:
"what words?"

ME:
"IN YO FACE!!!!!!!!....or better yet. TOLD YOU SO.hahahahahahahaha"

ME:
"anyway love to stay and chat, but I got your mess to fix up now"

ASH:
"shepherd please they took my sister"

ME:
"Ash please I need to take down the collectors.......any of those sound familiar? hehehehehehe. But is ok, in the end, I didn't need you to stop em. I am sure you dont need me to save your sister. Here is 5 credits, call yourself a cab"

lol, Yes, just yes

Wow.........u guys seem to have some strong animosity there.  Your moms definetly shouldnt buy u anymore video games for a while

[Wildecker]

callofdoobie wrote...

Wow.........u guys seem to have some strong animosity there.  Your moms definetly shouldnt buy u anymore video games for a while

Of cause she is mad at ... whoever stands there. Might be Shepard throwing in with Cerberus voluntarily. Or Shepard, thoroughly indoctrinated by Cerberus. Or some body double with surgery. Whatever. What did you all expect, guys? "Skipper! You're back! Take me, right here and now!"
Real people aren't like that. So why should virtual people behave that way?

[Fiery Phoenix]

She's one of my favorite characters, but I understand why some people dislike her.



The golden fact remains, when a character is loved or hated, it is a good sign that that's a successful character. Ops! Now I sound like BioWare! LOL!

[FlyingWalrus]

Ash is fine.

[Darth_Trethon]

Wildecker wrote...

callofdoobie wrote...

Wow.........u guys seem to have some strong animosity there.  Your moms definetly shouldnt buy u anymore video games for a while

Of cause she is mad at ... whoever stands there. Might be Shepard throwing in with Cerberus voluntarily. Or Shepard, thoroughly indoctrinated by Cerberus. Or some body double with surgery. Whatever. What did you all expect, guys? "Skipper! You're back! Take me, right here and now!"
Real people aren't like that. So why should virtual people behave that way?

No I just expect her get over herself long enough to see there's a lot more at stake than experiments on a bunch of insects and a huge plant. Her blaming Cerberus and then turning her back on Shepard is completely unforgivable. I had a lot of respect for her in ME1 and I even defended her A LOT on the forums but that ends it. Now she has to pay.

[callofdoobie]

I think its funny the lvl of hate alot of ppl are taking it too lol



Ya'll sound like she stole your kids and burned em alive. I have strongly disliked a few characters in video games(Alister is the most recent) but i don't think I could actually sit there and fill up forum's with how much a hate them. If I don't like a character I usually just don't talk about them or when asked to describe them I'll be like "yea so and so sucks". But planning on ways to make them suffer in the upcoming sequels is well....a little sad. I would honestly recommend some of u avoid video games if just one character is going to make u schizo



YOU DONT EVEN HAVE TO USE HER!! lol

[Spartas Husky]

I dont mind she not coming with me. I dont mind she not understanding my involvement with cerberus. Hell Liara acknowledges is a bad idea and she made a mistake. But the fact that she rather serve the alliance....over at least giving me the benefit of the doubt. Low man low.







Oh and for viodegames, no biggie, live well paid well, buy well on my own lol.

[FlyingWalrus]

callofdoobie wrote...

I think its funny the lvl of hate alot of ppl are taking it too lol

What's really ironic is that this hate comes primarily because Ash is percieved as "intolerant." So intolerance is paid in return. Funny, that.

[Spartas Husky]

FlyingWalrus wrote...

callofdoobie wrote...

I think its funny the lvl of hate alot of ppl are taking it too lol

What's really ironic is that this hate comes primarily because Ash is percieved as "intolerant." So intolerance is paid in return. Funny, that.

exactly. is funny. when one intolerant side is gone...we remain amongst tolerant people lol....scary when you image different scenarios

callofdoobie wrote...

Wow.........u guys seem to have some
strong animosity there.  Your moms definetly shouldnt buy u anymore
video games for a while

Dude, my top 3 characters in ME1 were, Wrex, Ash and Tali.

Go into ME2 for the first time.

. tali wants nothing to do with cerberus with good reasons..., but nevertheless gives me the benefit of the doubt....ok

Wrex, as soon as TIm told me he was on Tuchanka, I knew he was a no no. 2 hits.

By now, welcome relief because I never went into the med bay until now, and I found a surprise....and quickly went for a bottle to celebrate reunion.

But the small surprise was quickly overlapped when I went to horizon and Ash blurts out all that stuff....I understand her position, but her!!! not giving me a benefit of the doubt...low blow...low blow. I was hurt....

I would not have mind her saying "I cant believe your with cerberus....you....how coudl you.
But still neither the alliance nor the council is doing absolutely anything to prepare. I wish you the best of luck, but I can't bring myself to trust cerberus, in that we cannot agree"

Then I would say "Sorry ash, but there is nobody else that is willing to help, I can't be pick when help is scarce, but I understand your point, and I assure you, I keep my eyes open"

And kool woudl be if garrus was there: Garrus says " we both got our eyes open just in case Chief"

Luckily after that everything went peachy, and Ash was past

Found Wrex, he said...pretty much what I want ASh to say, which was a relief. Met Tali....woooooot.

Tali was one of my fav. She told me. She still trusts me, but she got things to do, that she is sorry, and good luck to me. There that is a good friends.

Thank god later on she joined...even if her skills were less than desirable.

Modifié par Spartas Husky, 01 avril 2010 - 09:49 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

In my ME1 games Ashley survived Virmire most often. I just thought she was more useful. No love, nor hate here.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 01 avril 2010 - 09:49 .

[LiquidGrape]

She's one of the better rounded characters. I don't agree with her slightly xenophobic convictions, but I can appreciate her motivations.
As opposed to for example Tali, whose affection borders on hero-worship, and Kaidan "I was a lonely jedi youngling" Alenko, her romance path is rather sweetly constructed.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 01 avril 2010 - 10:58 .

[kreite]

 I did

[Dokarqt]

Ash rocks, my favourite LI so far in the ME games (both 1 and 2) but the way they handled her on horizon was just a giant slap in the face. Oh well, atleast the letter she sends you later on where she apologizes is cool.



Is Kaidan as much of a d-bag on horizon if he was romanced in ME1?

[eternalnightmare13]

I like Ash way more then buckethead Tali or that spineless douchebag Liara.

[Vaylise]

I liked Ashley. She was a fun character to learn about.