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i dont get this sheep thing tbh ... i bet we all wanted to believe Bioware, and were just waiting for any reason to forgive them since as we all know, the EA PR is to blame. They used good name of Bioware, the awesome Bioware community for their cheap marketing tricks ... Bioware apologized, thats absolutely fine by me ...

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Rahath wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Rahath wrote...

I did not say that being able to forgive makes you a sheep.
I said I respect being able to forgive, to a certain degree.




Instead of trying to dissect someone's psyche, just attempt to accept them for who they are?


Where's the fun in that? :blink:


Sorry..I'm not your pet frog..find another :P

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tony2077 wrote...

mrfoo1 wrote...

tony2077 wrote...

Momochi1824 wrote...

Who wudda thought Bioware listens to their community...

their better then some other companys

Thats not always a good thing. Case in point, Blizzard Entertainment.

why whats wrong with them


SC2 lack of Lan in lue of BNET. Which has the most attrocious forum moderation possible.
WoW, to coin a phrase from American politics, flip flopping on use of paid services.
WoW in general and the design choices behind it.
WoW forums ....... which is what happens when you listen to your user base.

I only cite WoW since Blizzard hasn't really offered anything of value beyond it until SC2 or Diablo III comes out. Which to degrees count on there own merits in certain regards.

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

tony2077 wrote...

i guess i'm a sheep too


Ewe must be kidding? Wool never get anywhere if you try to ram your beliefs down our throats. Lambasting us won't accomplish anything. Bah! Just flock off.

:devil:

That was terrible... but it made me smile so I will let it pass.

Reminds me of Shepard's dialog during Ashley's romance. I wonder if the writers used Chris as inspiration. ;)

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Very classy move Ray. A good company takes care of it's customers and this is a great example of that.

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mrfoo1 wrote...

tony2077 wrote...

mrfoo1 wrote...

tony2077 wrote...

Momochi1824 wrote...

Who wudda thought Bioware listens to their community...

their better then some other companys

Thats not always a good thing. Case in point, Blizzard Entertainment.

why whats wrong with them


SC2 lack of Lan in lue of BNET. Which has the most attrocious forum moderation possible.
WoW, to coin a phrase from American politics, flip flopping on use of paid services.
WoW in general and the design choices behind it.
WoW forums ....... which is what happens when you listen to your user base.

I only cite WoW since Blizzard hasn't really offered anything of value beyond it until SC2 or Diablo III comes out. Which to degrees count on there own merits in certain regards.

still don't see any problems

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DraCZeQQ wrote...

i dont get this sheep thing tbh ... i bet we all wanted to believe Bioware, and were just waiting for any reason to forgive them since as we all know, the EA PR is to blame. They used good name of Bioware, the awesome Bioware community for their cheap marketing tricks ... Bioware apologized, thats absolutely fine by me ...

Is Chris Priestly a bioware employee or EA employee?


Because we all know he's this man's brother =]

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Modifié par mrfoo1, 31 mars 2010 - 12:17 .


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Bioware.

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DraCZeQQ wrote...

i dont get this sheep thing tbh ... i bet we all wanted to believe Bioware, and were just waiting for any reason to forgive them since as we all know, the EA PR is to blame. They used good name of Bioware, the awesome Bioware community for their cheap marketing tricks ... Bioware apologized, thats absolutely fine by me ...


Just ask yourself:
Is it logical for a professional company to not have investigated any and all legal complications in the areas you are about to unleash a contest in?
Especially a professional company that relies on it's good name, like Bioware.
It seems rather, suicidal to me, especially after announcing it to the ENTIRE community.

Not that I want to drag this out, since I need some sleep, but all I ask is that people think for themselves. Nothing more.

However, for me the matter is closed.
Good fight, good night.

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tony2077 wrote...
still don't see any problems

Really. .... ........ Have you ever been to the WoW forums or played WoW?

Modifié par mrfoo1, 31 mars 2010 - 12:19 .


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I'm thankful Ray and Greg have said something, even if the delay was about 30hrs. I understand last minute things can and will crop up, but I suspect a lot of people are still disappointed to a degree about what has happened. I'm interested to see how the UK/EU one will turn out, and I really hope it doesn't use Twitter or something like that.

Regardless, congratulations BioWare on 15 years, and I'll raise my cup to another 15.

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mrfoo1 wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

i dont get this sheep thing tbh ... i bet we all wanted to believe Bioware, and were just waiting for any reason to forgive them since as we all know, the EA PR is to blame. They used good name of Bioware, the awesome Bioware community for their cheap marketing tricks ... Bioware apologized, thats absolutely fine by me ...

Is Chris Priestly a bioware employee or EA employee?


Because we all know he's this man's brother =]

file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Mark/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-2.pngImage IPB

BioWare employee and HUH???

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People are and do think for themselves..its up to you to process that..and accept that fact..nighty night ..don't let the bedbugs bite. :P

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[quote]mrfoo1 wrote...

[quote]tony2077 wrote...
why whats wrong with them

[/quote]

SC2 lack of Lan in lue of BNET. Which has the most attrocious forum moderation possible.
WoW, to coin a phrase from American politics, flip flopping on use of paid services.
WoW in general and the design choices behind it.
WoW forums ....... which is what happens when you listen to your user base.

I only cite WoW since Blizzard hasn't really offered anything of value beyond it until SC2 or Diablo III comes out. Which to degrees count on there own merits in certain regards.

[/quote]
still don't see any problems

[/quote]
Really. .... ........ Have you ever been to the WoW forums or played WoW?

[/quote]
yes and no yes to wow and no to the forums i love wow btw

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Thanks for the apologies.

(I'm keeping the sig.)

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People said the same thing about Counter-Strike its really who you interact with. We've already seen a couple of people come in here get appauled and leave. I bet they have the same opinion now just from a fraction of the taste.



*says over PA system

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

tony2077 wrote...

i guess i'm a sheep too


Ewe must be kidding? Wool never get anywhere if you try to ram your beliefs down our throats. Lambasting us won't accomplish anything. Bah! Just flock off.

:devil:

That was terrible... but it made me smile so I will let it pass.

Reminds me of Shepard's dialog during Ashley's romance. I wonder if the writers used Chris as inspiration. ;)


Something like...

Drew Karpyshyn: Chris have you got a minute? Im writing Ashley's romance and I'm stuck. I dunno how Shepard would go about wooing her.

Chris Priestly: Drew sit down son, let me tell you all about the ladies B).

perhaps?

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tony2077 wrote...
yes and no yes to wow and no to the forums i love wow btw


Did you start playing before or after TBC?

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mrfoo1 wrote...

Sethronu wrote...

From my days playing World of Warcraft (EU servers), I still remember the amount of drama and legal b.s. there had been around every single event involving any kind of prizes etc - and this was on a game with a massive branch based in Europe, with their very own legal department. Certain countries' residents weren't eligible to participate in pretty much anything that involved 'real' prizes, there's been restrictions from others and so on.

Can't say this stuff with Bazaar is a big surprise to me - if anything, all the rage should go against stupid and poorly worded laws of countries & certain states, not the company.

This is probably a redundant question, but why do you let Bioware of the hook for it so willingly?


Because he has no idea at all, there have never been much legal issues with Blizzard E. Events, there were NONE. They have their Blizzcon thats it, and it isn´t international. And if the guy would have any information at all he would have pointed out the incredible and massive problems considering servers and support in europe in the past.

But anyway he is not able to grasp the big picture and why fans are pissed. Comparing Blizzard and Bioware won´t work.

Edit: yes great for you that you love your wow. no one cares at all.

Modifié par xCirdanx, 31 mars 2010 - 12:22 .


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This is still BS.

Is Bioware going to allow Floirda and New York to join in on this in the future or are they just going to skip us? I am still frustrated that I am not allowed to join in on the auctioning off of prizes since I am in Florida.

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Feraele wrote...
.nighty night ..don't let the bedbugs bite. :P



Need someone to tuck you in Feraele?  Kinda early for bed, isnt it?

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Kyser12 wrote...

This is still BS.
Is Bioware going to allow Floirda and New York to join in on this in the future or are they just going to skip us? I am still frustrated that I am not allowed to join in on the auctioning off of prizes since I am in Florida.





BioWare definitely really values all members of our world-wide Community, no matter where you live.  Accordingly, in the coming weeks, we will be announcing details about future events specifically for fans living in those territories which were excluded from participating in the first BioWare Bazaar.  The future events will be a bit different from the first Bazaar in how they’re set up and structured, but our goal is to feature the same caliber of awesome prizes and great BioWare collectibles.  We’ll announce more details in the coming weeks :)


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Kyser12 wrote...

This is still BS.
Is Bioware going to allow Floirda and New York to join in on this in the future or are they just going to skip us? I am still frustrated that I am not allowed to join in on the auctioning off of prizes since I am in Florida.


Yep they said they will be included. Hit the bioware button just beneath the thread name on threads list and you will see all the devs posts in this thread. Look for Chris Priestly's first post.

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Rahath wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

i dont get this sheep thing tbh ... i bet we all wanted to believe Bioware, and were just waiting for any reason to forgive them since as we all know, the EA PR is to blame. They used good name of Bioware, the awesome Bioware community for their cheap marketing tricks ... Bioware apologized, thats absolutely fine by me ...


Just ask yourself:
Is it logical for a professional company to not have investigated any and all legal complications in the areas you are about to unleash a contest in?
Especially a professional company that relies on it's good name, like Bioware.
It seems rather, suicidal to me, especially after announcing it to the ENTIRE community.

Not that I want to drag this out, since I need some sleep, but all I ask is that people think for themselves. Nothing more.

However, for me the matter is closed.
Good fight, good night.


Dont spoil it for me :-) ... i want to believe that:
Bioware = guys that MAKE awesome games
EA = the evil guys that makes these referal links tricks, force bioware to make crappy undercooked dlc for money instead of one awesome datadisc (like Tales of the SC, Throne of Bhaal, ...)

so the question is are really the guys that makes games to blame, or the EA PR division that just happens to own Bioware brand now to use it as they wish ...

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VanDraegon wrote...

Feraele wrote...
.nighty night ..don't let the bedbugs bite. :P



Need someone to tuck you in Feraele?  Kinda early for bed, isnt it?



hah! I'm not sleepy..its 5:25 pm Pacific...and I was responding to someone who thought I was an interesting specimen to dissect. :P