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assuming Bioware doesn't have there own marketing dept.

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Feldgraf

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Kyser12 wrote...

This is still BS.


Yep!

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Bioware, i forgive you. Pretty sure mostly everyone already said something along those lines but i'm going to say them anyway: i feel like some things could've been handed differently and this could've all been avoided or at least minimized. Still, we're cool now, i suppose. Not without some reservations, though.

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Well this is a good apology and has managed to reclaim most of my respect. I feel it should have been there not long after the end of the countdown but other than that, I can't fault it.


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mrfoo1 wrote...

assuming Bioware doesn't have there own marketing dept.


I hope they wouldn't.  Wouldn't be cost effective.

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tony2077

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mrfoo1 wrote...

tony2077 wrote...
yes and no yes to wow and no to the forums i love wow btw


Did you start playing before or after TBC?

after the first expansion and played a trial of the second one

edit i don't have a job atm or i would still be playing it

Modifié par tony2077, 31 mars 2010 - 12:28 .


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I'm sure Bioware has reasons for doing what it is doing. You can always move to America. You have a few days.

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I need a new sig..someone got that sig link again..forgot to link to it. :)

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

mrfoo1 wrote...

assuming Bioware doesn't have there own marketing dept.


I hope they wouldn't.  Wouldn't be cost effective.

Would be more of how they operate under EA, I would guess. I don't really see why they wouldn't have there own marketing dept.. .. I kinda want to know now. :(

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Feraele wrote...

I need a new sig..someone got that sig link again..forgot to link to it. :)


This one?

http://social.biowar...3/index/1981007

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mr flibbles

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Great post guys.



Almost had me worried :3

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janeym27

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Thanks a lot, Bioware. (*feels guilty about getting so mad*)



You continue to be one of the most awesome games companies out there. Keep at it!

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I'm just gonna say:



@Ray and Greg -- you're forgiven. For now. But I'm'a still keeping my sig. Because that, is how I roll. :P

#464
GeminiThunder

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Now I respect BioWare even more. Kudos to You.

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Thanks guys, for clearing this up!



This tells that you guys care about the community. And we take care to care back for the next 15 years.

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Seemed fairly likely to me that BioWare would've wanted to involve everybody, I figured it was down to issues of some kind. Thanks very much for keeping us in the loop!

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Druss99 wrote...

Feraele wrote...

I need a new sig..someone got that sig link again..forgot to link to it. :)


This one?

http://social.biowar...3/index/1981007


Yes found it thanks..guess there's nothing I can choose.  I'm not in rant mode any more. :P

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Feraele wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

Feraele wrote...

I need a new sig..someone got that sig link again..forgot to link to it. :)


This one?

http://social.biowar...3/index/1981007


Yes found it thanks..guess there's nothing I can choose.  I'm not in rant mode any more. :P


Ah young one, when in doubt look to the biotic god.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

So how about it? Group hug?


So long as you don't mind elves in spikey armour crushing you, sure!

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Thanks for issuing a statement guys :) We all appreciate it.

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Dear Ray and Greg,
 
Thank you very much for your reply. You have shown that you do, in fact, care about your community and I think it makes a great deal of people feel… good.  It’s always nice to know that one has not been abandoned. Thank you for that reassurance. Image IPB
 
The reasons for the contest rules are totally irrelevant. The rules and restrictions are what they are because there are specific reasons for those limitations. Otherwise, there would be no limitations. It has been stated quite clearly on a number of occasions and threads that the cause of the majority of the community being so surprised/taken aback/shocked/upset/outraged was the way the advertising for this event was handled and presented to us. I am sure you are aware of this and hopefully this has been a learning experience for everyone. Image IPB
 
While I am glad that other events for other parts of the world are in the works, I do hope that they will not follow the popularity contest style that this Bazaar event appears to utilize. I, personally, have no interest in participating in popularity contests. But I do wish all the best of luck to all those participating and send my heartfelt congratulations to the (eventual) winners. Good luck guys! Image IPB
 
You will notice only one game icon below my avatar. I will be more than happy to go out and purchase Awakening for whatever price it will be at the time once I know for a fact that installing Awakening doesn’t require me to shoot my Origins in the foot. And I will be more than happy to register my copy of Awakening, whether I get tokens for it or not. Image IPB
 
I am a great fan of KOTOR and DA:O (alas, have missed the BG and NWN train… even thou I have been playing games for, oh, roughly, twenty years… you understand the term “roughly” means “not nearly as much”, right? RIGHT?). I am still awaiting word from the good people at Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords Restoration Project… err… anyone know what happened to them? Perhaps an igloo fell on them while they were tying off their parked polar bears? Thou if they are not Canadian, then it could have been anything, I suppose. But if they are Canadian, then it must have been the igloo. Image IPB
 
And speaking of which… Mr. Gaider, you sure know how to write an immersing story. But darn, I’m STILL depressed from reading “The Stolen Throne”. Next time, can you come up with something a wee bit more cheerful? Like, perhaps, fluffy bunnies and my little pony and them care bears. I mean, there’s only so much death and despair one can take, besides, all that gloom is so unbelievable. Image IPB
 
But I digress…
 
The reason we hold a special place in our hearts for Bioware… you see, the reason for that is the joy and entertainment that the games YOU create bring us. And when you continue to create these marvelous games, have a dialogue with your fans/customers, try and address their concerns, provide technical support after they have purchased your product… that, my friends, is what creates a following… a community. Image IPB 
 
Something tells me that EA has missed that memo. *sigh* Why, oh why would you allow yourselves to be bought out like that dear Bioware? EA, after your brilliant track record of awesome customer non service, we would like you to vacate these Great White North premises and leave good people to do good work. Shoo! No, you say? Well then, we shall approach you and repeat in a firmer tone of voice that we would like for you to vacate these Great White North premises… or ELSE! Image IPB
 
Where is your national pride Bioware, where?
 
Sing it:
 
I know this place is where I am
No other place is better than
No matter where I go I am
Proud to be Canadian
 
I am, you know I am
I am Canadian
I am, you know I am
I am Canadian
 
Come on!
I love this country where I am
This land is where I make my stand
No other heart is truer than
The one we call Canadian
 
Sing it!
I am, you know I am
Know I am
I am Canadian
Know I am
I am, you know I am
Know I am
 
I am Canadian
I am Canadian!
 
And in conclusion:
 
Happy 15th B-Day Bioware! Image IPB

PS. Apologies if the links don't work, apparently I'm a dweeb and for some reason just cannot make a link work on here, even with the Bcc code. Oh well... Image IPB

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Chris Priestly wrote...

A reminder to please keep insults and personal attacks off the forums.

I'm glad people are taking Ray & Greg's apology to heart and it was sincere and it is genuine. I know there will always be people out there who say "well I doubt it was last minute complications" (people still doubt the moon landing, the power of bacon as a cure-all, my ability to jump tall buildings in a single bound, etc) but I would suggest that if they weren't last minute complications, do you really think we'd have excluded Canada? Where we are? Really?

Anyways, moving on now. Time for an apology from me as well. The BioWare Bazaar IS a cool event and, if we had been able to get it working as we intended, potentially Epic. Yes, not nearly enough people are able to be part of it (see Ray & Greg's apology), but the event is cool. Where I went wrong is in how we marketed it to you and for that I apologize. We used the word "Epic" before we had proven that it was. Sorry. We also used the Countdown timer to generate interest. In hindsight, this allowed rampant speculation which caused disappointment. Again, sorry. While I won't promise we will never use a timer like it again, I can promise we will make sure that such a timer is worthy of the interest it will attract.

So, for those who are taking part in the BioWare Bazaar, thanks for your interest. We are having a great response and people are having fun with it. And for those who cannot be part of the BioWare Bazaar, my apologies as well. As Ray & Greg indicated, we do have more events coming this year to celebrate our 15th Anniversary, including the one specifically for those who were excluded from the Bazaar.  We do greatly value our Community. All of it, no matter where you are from and we're going to prove it.

So how about it? Group hug?




:devil:


Aww, you big lug. How could we stay mad at you? C'm'ere!

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The Drs themselves, now that is grovelling of the highest level. Not the first time I have fallen victim to promos being NA only, but never had senior staff apologising before. I am interested to see what the next move is for those outside North America, the reaction of the community was expected but probably worse than i imagined. Even worse than the reaction to PS3 losing Linux support with 3.21 (I suspect a hoax, little proof but waiting to see). 

As an Englishman (prefer that to British, we all seem to have our own governments setting up their own policies and always fun beating/mocking the Scots Image IPB. Frankie Boyle does it himself anyway.) is it worth me using twitter to try and get points anyway? Would i be exempt from winning any if I tried?    

Modifié par Icematt12, 31 mars 2010 - 12:54 .


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I wounder what legal ramification caused Florida and New York to be exempt.

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 31 mars 2010 - 08:21 .