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A CONCERN - Regarding BioWare Bazaar


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#1
TrueWindoze

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I did not write this but I think BioWare should take notice.

ShepardOsiris wrote...

Because of this URL loophole and it
not having any sort of hard cap, it's completely destroyed the contest.
You could register all games, or take all questionaires, create a
character, and by some holy act of god win every single challenge, and
even meet the 500 token daily URL quota, and your still not going to
have a snowball's chance in hell of competing with guys like him that
either cheated or somehow have the ability to get those kinds of hits.


That's sad because it means you could just come off the
street, never even played a Bioware game or contributed to a forum and
win the best prizes without anyone being able to even compete with you.


I'm sorry, but that's just not the way to run a contest.



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Well, it's good news for Bioware, and that's what the contest is all about.



http://social.bioware.com/brc/1689196

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As I said in the other thread, the trouble is - how do you avoid that situation?



Without SOMETHING that's not capped - pretty much everyone would be tied. You'd have:

1. The people that did everything.

2. The people that did everything and were lucky enough to win a Twitter.

3. The people that did everything and were crazily lucky enough to win more than one Twitter.

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TrueWindoze wrote...

I did not write this but I think BioWare should take notice.

ShepardOsiris wrote...

Because of this URL loophole and it
not having any sort of hard cap, it's completely destroyed the contest.
You could register all games, or take all questionaires, create a
character, and by some holy act of god win every single challenge, and
even meet the 500 token daily URL quota, and your still not going to
have a snowball's chance in hell of competing with guys like him that
either cheated or somehow have the ability to get those kinds of hits.


That's sad because it means you could just come off the
street, never even played a Bioware game or contributed to a forum and
win the best prizes without anyone being able to even compete with you.


I'm sorry, but that's just not the way to run a contest.


win *every* challenge? At 500 a pop? I think that would just about guarantee you winning whatever you wanted. Just my opinion though.

I admit the conests does seem to favor those with high-powered websites and things like that, but I for one am still tryin. Good luck lol!

http://social.bioware.com/brc/1195552

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Rive Caedo wrote...

As I said in the other thread, the trouble is - how do you avoid that situation?

Without SOMETHING that's not capped - pretty much everyone would be tied. You'd have:
1. The people that did everything.
2. The people that did everything and were lucky enough to win a Twitter.
3. The people that did everything and were crazily lucky enough to win more than one Twitter.


They would have to actually include something that was challenging and would result in differing amounts of tokens based on performance.

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Who is the "him" ShepardOsiris is referring to?

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Rive Caedo

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The "him" is someone that posted an image showing himself with over 24,000 points (when most of the front runners here have between 8,000 and 9,000.

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funny thing is ive worked my tail off and only have 687 referral clicks, i have about 7000 total tokens but since the ip address thing (which i agree with) just about everyone thats gonna click on my page already has so i dont expect much more, oh well i entered 3 or 4 challenges today hopefully im lucky.



Another funny thing is im doing all this for the books, though i wouldnt mind a comp =0

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taynar09

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Capping it would likely lead to some unfortunate problems in the auction. I do agree that the way it is now gives a few people big advantages over the rest.

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Rive Caedo

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WARDEN9652 wrote...
Another funny thing is im doing all this for the books, though i wouldnt mind a comp =0

You might have greater odds to win something like the books - since they aren't putting all the auctions up at once.
Small ticket items might have people shy away from them because they want to wait for the boat (er... comp).

So people might be able to pick up things like books and stickers for low values of points.

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This referral thing is just a way to market their games while people spam and **** themselves out for a couple of clicks.



Viral marketing ploy.

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chiliztri wrote...

This referral thing is just a way to market their games while people spam and **** themselves out for a couple of clicks.

Viral marketing ploy.


Exactly. I have been banned from several message boards already for spamming.

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Rive Caedo wrote...

The "him" is someone that posted an image showing himself with over 24,000 points (when most of the front runners here have between 8,000 and 9,000.


*ehem*

Photoshoped



Well SOMEONE had to say it... :whistle::lol:

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yup, it's going to be a tough fight, that's why everyone should go to my link!

http://social.bioware.com/brc/1527574 :D

Modifié par Ranger115, 30 mars 2010 - 11:24 .


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Celrath wrote...

Image IPB


No wai!

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Twitchmonkey

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^

Proof that exploits work great.

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It is a great way to get free viral advertising for there product though... which is exactly what they wanted.

They most likely could care less if just a bunch of cheaters win all the prizes, they got the free advertising either way.

Modifié par Starke9, 30 mars 2010 - 11:25 .


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chiliztri wrote...

This referral thing is just a way to market their games while people spam and **** themselves out for a couple of clicks.

Viral marketing ploy.


That's all there is to it.  Someone generating 10k clicks a day while 10k people generate 50 a day is exactly what Bioware wanted out of this. 

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Starke9 wrote...

It is a great way to get free viral advertising for there product thought... which is exactly what they wanted.


Yeah, and I just got six clickthroughs from a message board about raising chickens, how many people from there are going to buy BioWare's product? None.

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chiliztri

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cathode88 wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

This referral thing is just a way to market their games while people spam and **** themselves out for a couple of clicks.

Viral marketing ploy.


That's all there is to it.  Someone generating 10k clicks a day while 10k people generate 50 a day is exactly what Bioware wanted out of this. 


Yep, and the people who prove to be more beneficial(IE, the people who can somehow get thousands of unique hits because of a blog, website, etc) end up having an advantage over others. It's pretty unfair.

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XX55XX wrote...

Starke9 wrote...

It is a great way to get free viral advertising for there product thought... which is exactly what they wanted.


Yeah, and I just got six clickthroughs from a message board about raising chickens, how many people from there are going to buy BioWare's product? None.


Doesn't matter.  If ten thousand people click the link it costs bioware next to nothing and if just one of those people is influenced in the slightest way then it worked exactly as it was suppose to.   Its how advertising works.  You may watch thousands of commericals and never once actually directly buy the product but I bet atlease once or twice you have and thats what there going for.....stupid funny Old spice commericals making me buy shampoo.....

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WARDEN9652

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wow if that 100,000 token photo isnt photo shopped all my hope just went down the drain

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XX55XX wrote...

Starke9 wrote...

It is a great way to get free viral advertising for there product thought... which is exactly what they wanted.


Yeah, and I just got six clickthroughs from a message board about raising chickens, how many people from there are going to buy BioWare's product? None.


Lol even the chicken raisers aren't safe from bioware spam now.

Modifié par rohks, 30 mars 2010 - 11:33 .


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WARDEN9652 wrote...

wow if that 100,000 token photo isnt photo shopped all my hope just went down the drain


I agree with you