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[Seifz]

Mogster42 wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Gacatar wrote...
e the other keys are all just like WoW (1-0 hotbar, F1-F4 party selection, P/C/I/J, etc.) my thumb just always wants to jump. 

The keys are just like NWN, which was around well before WoW...

No, no, no!  Sure, some of the keys are the same.  But the overall scheme, and the feel of the game, is much more WoW than NWN.  For example, click-to-move was the norm in NWN.  In DA:O, I find that WASD is much, much better than click-to-move (just like WoW).  NWN had C for character, I for inventory, etc. but did it have P for skills and abilities (just like WoW)?  Etc.

Basically, my hand sits in a comfortable positon when I'm playing WoW.  WASD+QE moves my character, 1-4 and shift+1-4 use my most common abilities, ` is auto-walk, space is jump, etc.  My hand is in the exact same position for DA:O, and my thumb just wants to hit space to jump!  The only difference in position is that my thumb rests on TAB for highlighting items instead of shift to toggle abilities.

There's nothing wrong with any of this, of course.  I was just making a light-hearted comment on the first page. 

EDIT:  Actually, NWN was nothing like this.  Maybe the controls existed, but did anyone use them?  NWN was all about the mouse!  Click-to-move, click-to-activate, radial menu for spells and abilities... I think the only time I used my keyboard in NWN was when I held TAB to highlight items and when I used M/I/C/J/B to bring up the map, inventory, character, journal, and spell book panels.

Modifié par Seifz, 08 novembre 2009 - 09:29 .

[vyvexthorne]

I guess I'm just used to space bar pausing.. I'm actually playing the xbox version right now and I love the command wheel. I've tried both versions and I have to say although I'm at heart a pc gamer the command wheel is pretty awesome. I haven't used the quick bar slots at all on the xbox. .. I love pause and play. If i'm panicking during a fight for some reason.. I can just hit the key and sit there and think about my next move.

[wrexingcrew]

LadyRae9 wrote...

I like the space bar part - or at least being able to pause - I'm not a speed strategist so I need the time to think.

The part I don't like - and maybe I've just missed something (and would appreciate being told so if that is the case) - is that you have to go into inventory to manually switch weapons. I'd like to see a button I can push, even if it means giving up a space on the activity bar

Yeah, if you're playing PC, it's the / key (forwardslash) by default (I think, unless I changed it at some point).  I tend to miss lots of things, but that's one I caught for whatever reason - hope it helps.

Shannara13 wrote...

The first thing I do when ever I get a new character is disable tactics. I really prefer micromanaging.

Same.  I don't know what it is, but I love it.  Maybe RTS games taught me to do that (I played a ton back in the day, and even more recently - props to ToJKa1 for mentioning Relic's games), or maybe it was playing through the BG series recently.  Maybe it's because it's a hard experience to find in new games lately.  Regardless, I much prefer to be hopping around controlling everything/everyone relatively directly.  I could see the appeal wearing off eventually, by playthrough 2 or 3, but I love it for now.

By the way, I just want to note something: the tone and discussion in this thread has been great and mostly respectful so far, regardless of whether people are disagreeing and (if they are) what they're disagreeing about.  I will repeat - as I said earlier - that I have no problem with people who'd like to see less of an emphasis on this style of play.  I just happen to love it for whatever reason or combination of reasons.

[achiliesheal1]

Yes the keysets are almost the same as wow and i find myself trying to jump over fence's hiting the space bar pause......

[j.gates]

+1 on the jumping thing. I am dealing ok and enjoy the pause style combat, but I want to jump... why wouldn't you jump over a rock, off of a hill, across a narrow creek, over a puddle, over a dog. Jumping is fun.

[Aisling the Drow]

My first real PC game was Neverwinter Nights 2, and then Baldurs Gate series. I loved every one of them, and played them multiple times and modded them heavily for more replay. So I knew what was coming when Bioware said this was an incarnation of the BG games...

But... in the intervening years I have been an mmo player. And there is no pause and no quick saves. lol So I kinda wishe there was two modes. A tactical space-bar rpg game, which it is, and a more fluid faced paced game like an mmo.

But as it is, I am very happy with Dragon Age.

@ the poster above me. Jumping is fun, bunny-hopping is annoying... >.> Just felt like putting that in.

Modifié par Aisling the Drow, 09 novembre 2009 - 04:19 .

[bleedspretty]

WillyPete2171 wrote...
...  Its a tactical combat RGP.  Its like playing chess - stop the game, take in the big picture and plan out your moves, then start the action again, ect.  The very premise of the game is its ability to stop the action and micro manage your troops to victory. ...

I was thinking about the chess analogy too, and wishing the game could stream the combat actions to an .xml with perhaps play/forward/rewind/pause.

I agree with other posts,  that everyone can play on easy and run and gun, and normal with tactics and run and gun. Too bad the word "easy' discourages people from even using the mode. Fun is fun, and one should have it......

[Khumak]

If you set your tactics bars up right it's quite possible to play through nightmare with minimal pausing, especially if you only have 1 mage. My tailor made full auto nightmare party would be a 2H warrior main, Allistair, Leliana, and either Morrigan or Wynn speced for heals, buffs, debuffs, crowd control, and only 100% party friendly damage. All 4 party members can stun, knock down, or otherwise disable, 1 can heal, 2 are immune to stun and knockdown. And song of courage is just sick in a 3 melee party.  You could go afk during most fights and still win without anyone needing to be revived.

Another ridiculous option is running with 2 or more mages that both have a mix of party friendly CC and damage as well as being set to rejuvenate each other so they never run out of mana or need to drink potions.

Modifié par Khumak, 04 janvier 2010 - 11:12 .