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[SLPr0]

After a full play through as a warrior and looking at the variety between medium/heavy/massive sets in at least look, I went back on a second playthrough and decided to run a rogue this time and as I remember it I wasn't entirely impressed really with any of the light armors in the game that I saw between Leilana and Zeveran.

But then of course we have Duncan, father figure of the baby Grey Wardens, who is quite obviously a Rogue Duelist and I'd have to say his armor is probably about ten times cooler than even some of the massive sets.

So I guess I'm asking....how come light armor classes have such limited variance? Everything I saw in regards to light armor (granted I didn't do the Wardens Keep DLC so I'm not sure there) from pretty much the beginning of the game, to the end of the game, on Leilana, looked pretty much exactly like the same set of armor a rogue starts with it just goes from a rusty/rawhide look to...in Leilana's case at least, purple and in Zeveran's case...green.

So in the assumption I've missed something in regards to armor sets, I figured I'd ask the rest of the people playing if they'd found anything really cool or different from the base design you start with. Are there any really nice stand out rogue armors? Stuff on the same level as what you see Duncan wearing? Or is it really only the Heavy/Massive armors that get to look good?

[Ic3D4ne]

I don't know tbh. There are several items out there that gave you nice crit chance/backstab dmg bonuses, but those weren't set items for the most part. I used Wade's Superior Drakeskin set through the whole game, to be honest, with the helmet you get in Honnleath.



If you are only focusing on looks, though, I'm not sure. Didn't think about it too much.

[SLPr0]

Looks are always important, and its sort of a drag to realize you'll never quite reach the same level of awe inspiring gearage that you see on Duncan as a rogue.



The massive armor sets for warriors are quite acceptable really, in comparison to Loghain's armor and Templar Armor (which you can even get a set of) and the King's armor, but light armor really appears to use the same model and doesn't have much in the area of variance at all other than texture base. Though the massive armor sets too are using mostly the same model its the progression I guess through mediums to heavies to massives that give you a feeling of evolution and accomplishment...whereas with light armors you never really seem to get any better, visually, at least.

[Astalder]

Agreed that the only visually stunning armor seems to be the massive sets, which do in fact look quite cool. Leather and cloth though are a big problem. BioWare's not that great at loot unfortunately, it was a problem in Mass Effect 1 as well. If a game has a rogue class there should be at least one set of armor that makes me look like Garret from the THIEF series, that's a basic requirement, basic. Likewise if it has a mage class there should be at least one set of armor that makes me look like Gandalf.

[TheNecroFiend]

I havent paid much attention how fatigue works in relation to armor and constitution scores. Is it viable to use medium armor on a rogue?

[Nassou]

Drakeskin looks great.

[SLPr0]

TheNecroFiend wrote...

I havent paid much attention how fatigue works in relation to armor and constitution scores. Is it viable to use medium armor on a rogue?

Viable yes depending on how you set up Rogue and Dual Blade talents to ensure you're minimizing fatigue penalties as much as possible, but even then medium armor isn't much of an improvement and is mostly generic and Wade in Denerim only offers an option of Light or Massive when it comes to dragon scales...so, its a bit of a tosser really.

Like I said its obvious that Duncan is a Rogue Duelist, and his armor is awesome with a side of sauce, so...its sort of a bummer that none of the player based light armors match that level of visual detail.

[SLPr0]

Nassou wrote...

Drakeskin looks great.

Drakeskin just looked like a purple version of the same armor a rogue PC starts with, at least on Leilana. I had a set of that made, once I found out it was light armor it wasn't useful to me but I figured it would be great for Leilana but she was mostly wearing better stuff from things we'd picked up on a trip previous to that return to Denerim....regardless of that the difference between what she was wearing and the Drakeskin only appeared to be a variance in the shade of purple in the texture.

Maybe thats a character specific thing? I don't know.

[Syvere]

Duncan a rogue? Please, He's quite obviously DW Warrior, you can tell just by looking at his armor and weapons.

Modifié par Syvere, 08 novembre 2009 - 06:01 .

[Zenthar Aseth]

Uh.. you can't tell it by his weapons or armor.

[Syrellaris]

Because light armor only comes in leather and cloth variances in the beginning until you get some unique leathery/cloth variances.

Also duncan is not a rogue, duncan is just a warrior. he is by far not a rogue / duelist..

Modifié par Syrellaris, 08 novembre 2009 - 06:07 .

[Zenthar Aseth]

Duncan's armor isn't in the game. And rogues can wear any armor they want to.......

So, any proof of Duncan not being a rogue??

Modifié par Zenthar Aseth, 08 novembre 2009 - 06:09 .

[Syvere]

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

Uh.. you can't tell it by his weapons or armor.

Yeah, you can unless he has DW mastery maxed. He's carrying medium armor and sword with a dagger. BioWare doesn't usually do weird character builds for story characters so it's pretty obvious he's a warrior.

[Zenthar Aseth]

Indeed. SO YOU CANNOT. Because it would only be logical Duncan would have DW mastery.

[Maugrim]

Syvere wrote...

Duncan a rogue? Please, He's quite obviously DW Warrior, you can tell just by looking at his armor and weapons.

Read  The Calling by David Gaider, he's obviously a rogue a rogue/warrior hybrid at the very least

[Syvere]

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

Indeed. SO YOU CANNOT. Because it would only be logical Duncan would have DW mastery.

Excuse me? Is there any proof he IS a rogue either? No, there isn't.

Looking at this logically DW rogue with medium armor and a sword is much more abnormal than DW warrior. It's very clear that he is a warrior if you think about it even for a second.

[Syvere]

makenzieshepard wrote...

Syvere wrote...

Duncan a rogue? Please, He's quite obviously DW Warrior, you can tell just by looking at his armor and weapons.

Read  The Calling by David Gaider, he's obviously a rogue a rogue/warrior hybrid at the very least

I have and I have to say DW Warrior, not a rogue.

[Zenthar Aseth]

Syvere wrote...

Zenthar Aseth wrote...

Indeed. SO YOU CANNOT. Because it would only be logical Duncan would have DW mastery.

Excuse me? Is there any proof he IS a rogue either? No, there isn't.

Looking at this logically DW rogue with medium armor and a sword is much more abnormal than DW warrior. It's very clear that he is a warrior if you think about it even for a second.

What excuse you? Have I ever said he is a rogue? No??? I thought so.

Looking at this logically there is no way of knowing whether Duncan is a rogue or a warrior - or if he's outside the class limits altogether.

Modifié par Zenthar Aseth, 08 novembre 2009 - 06:18 .

[SLPr0]

I'm going for Rogue Duelist based on lore assumptions and the way he carries himself, his weapon choices and the mixed medium/heavy armor set he appears to be wearing.



Also, hes far too smart to be a warrior. And if he was a warrior, his armor wouldn't be as focused on mobility as his set appears to be. Which is why rogue duelist is what immediately springs to mind though there is no actual confirmation of that in the presented game.

[Zenthar Aseth]

Far too smart to be a warrior? That doesn't.. make any sense

[LegendaryIII]

He's a mage dammit!



He's not very good at it though...His clothes are all wrong, and he doesn't carry a big stick...nor does he speak softly...



Proof, all great anyones are mages...

[Syvere]

SLPr0 wrote...

Also, hes far too smart to be a warrior. And if he was a warrior, his armor wouldn't be as focused on mobility as his set appears to be. Which is why rogue duelist is what immediately springs to mind though there is no actual confirmation of that in the presented game.

Too smart to be a warrior? Oh kay. Also I think you should know that DW Warriors use medium armor specifically to increase mobility. So all your points pretty much point to a DW Warrior. But like others have stated there's no way to be sure without someone from BioWare telling us.

[Niyte]

Syvere wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

Syvere wrote...

Duncan a rogue? Please, He's quite obviously DW Warrior, you can tell just by looking at his armor and weapons.

Read  The Calling by David Gaider, he's obviously a rogue a rogue/warrior hybrid at the very least

I have and I have to say DW Warrior, not a rogue.

His utilization of daggars, stealth, stealing/lockpicking makes him pretty rogue-like. It's almost like you didn't even read the book...

Modifié par Niyte, 08 novembre 2009 - 06:38 .

[SLPr0]

So yes, rogue duelist, /thread hijack.



Back to armor set discussion maybe?

[Urbanmech]

This thread hath cracked mine skull. Injury kit stat.