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[Demonik Angel]

Ok, I know this is going to sound like a dumb topic/question but I just want to make sure its not my copy of the game.

I just bought a new PC the other day and picked up the limited edition of Mass Effect 2 for PC as well.

for some reason the game tends to lag a little bit while playing, at first I thought it was because I forgot to install the DirectX 9.0c that comes with it (i tottally did not see it at all lol) and after uninstalling and reinstalling DirectX and the game it seems to have for the most part solved it, but there is still some lag.

Here are my system specs:

Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 630 Processor 2.80 GHz
RAM: 6.00GB
Windows 7 64 Bit operating system
1TB HDD
Nvidia GeForce 9100 graphics card.

so far after installing the Direct X I havnt tried going into battle (im right when you meet the illusive man for the first time) but when im just walking around it tends to lag a little and during cutscenes as well.

[mesteryoda]

its you gfx card, everything nvidia below 6 as the second model number is not ment for gaming im afraid

[Gorath Alpha]

mesteryoda wrote...

its you gfx card, everything nvidia below 6 as the second model number is not ment for gaming im afraid

It seems to be a better Idea to avoid misusing that term.  Anything from "200" on downward, after the Geforce 6200, is an onboard device, most certainly not an actual "CARD", as that is defined, not at all.   And he may even have been lucky in this game to have gotten past the opening when the arms locker won't open for most poor excuses for video of this type (onboard).  The HP linked beklow is the only mention I've found via Google that any PC even has such a device (and I forgot to verify that it was only available in a standard shaper tower):

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

"Video Card = 256 MB (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support). Supported GPU Chips: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or greater; ATI Radeon X1600 Pro or greater. Please note that NVIDIA GeForce 7200, 7300, 7400, 7500, 8100, 8200, 8300, 8400, 9100, 9200, and 9300; ATI Radeon HD 2400, 3100, 3200, HD 3450, HD 3470, HD 4200, and HD 4350 are below minimum system requirements. "

(Note: comparing the 6800 Geforce card with the X1n00 Radeons, the X1650 XT, or even the X1800 GT, are a much more sensible matchup than the X1600 Pro, but it should be noted that both of these are now long out of production and the developer uses them as reference points mostly.)

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

(Further note: an entire page's worth of HD 5750 Radeons here:  www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx

Too many of the HPs are sold in what is called a "slimline" case that is too small for any but specially made low profile add-on cards.  I hope this is not one of those!   I've measure one of the smallest of all cases that I am now using myself, that has an HD 3870 in it.  It is 17" tall, 7 1/2" wide, and 19" deep front to back. 

Gorath

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 31 mars 2010 - 10:28 .

[mesteryoda]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

mesteryoda wrote...

its you gfx card, everything nvidia below 6 as the second model number is not ment for gaming im afraid

Please don't misuse the term.  Anything from "200" on downward, after the Geforce 6200, is an onboard device, most certainly not an actual "CARD", as that is defined, not at all.   And he is lucky in this game to have gotten past the opening when the arms locker won't open for most poor excuses for video of this type. 

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

"Video Card = 256 MB (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support). Supported GPU Chips: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or greater; ATI Radeon X1600 Pro or greater. Please note that NVIDIA GeForce 7200, 7300, 7400, 7500, 8100, 8200, 8300, 8400, 9100, 9200, and 9300; ATI Radeon HD 2400, 3100, 3200, HD 3450, HD 3470, HD 4200, and HD 4350 are below minimum system requirements. "

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

G

you know what i mean gorath intergrated or not, anything below a 6600/7600/8600 ect are usally assigned to lower performence models.  i just tried to be helpfull

either ways i was right in that the gpu was the cause.

Modifié par mesteryoda, 31 mars 2010 - 01:08 .

[Demonik Angel]

yeah, I was able to get part the opening scene where most people couldnt get into the locker, the thing I had troubles with though was at the end of the prologue when you have to open the door, for some reason it wouldnt for me unless i did the esc/space bar trick.

also, would either of those cards you linked to in your second post be good enough to run ME2 and other games? and thanks for the help even for such a noob question lol

one other thing, the two graphics cards that were in goraths post I cant seem to find on any sites I go to, would anyone mind linking me to a couple of good graphics cards that would be able to run most pc games? I plan to pick a couple more up on payday this friday along with a new graphics card.

Modifié par Demonik Angel, 31 mars 2010 - 06:45 .

[Askal]

Not really, he linked to older cards... and a prebuilt system. You're going to have trouble shoving that HP Pavillion into your PCIe slot

Can you give us an idea of what your budget for a gfx card would be?

Modifié par Askal, 31 mars 2010 - 06:46 .

[Demonik Angel]

hmm, if i were to get one this payday it'd be anywhere from 150 to 200 if possible, if not then I can always save up for one.

i also guess im lucky that the game barely lags anymore for me lol at first it was bad before I installed DirectX but now its not really that bad, its just annoying and I dont even want to imagine how it might be during actual fights.

Modifié par Demonik Angel, 31 mars 2010 - 06:50 .

[Askal]

That should be fine for getting a nice video card. I'd recommend a Radeon HD5770 or 5750. I think it would be better if you bought one from Sapphire or XFX; they're a little more expensive than the other brands but they have better support in case your card ever malfunctions. What country are you in? If you're in the USA newegg (where Gorath linked to) would probably be the best place to look for a good price.

Modifié par Askal, 31 mars 2010 - 06:56 .

[Demonik Angel]

yeah im in the states, and I do go to newegg often lol, thanks for the help

[Askal]

Hope you find a good deal

[Doofus42]

Those two cards, nVidia 6800 GT and ATI x1650 XT the minimum old and obsolete cards for ME2. Do not buy them!



First you need to determine several things about your PC:



1. Does it have a PCI-e video card slot? If the answer is no, then your computer cannot be upgraded.

2. What is your Power Supply's wattage and number of amps on the +12V rail(s)? Do you have the power to run a new video card.

3. Does your power supply have a PCI-e 6-pin power connection?

4. What is the resolution of your LCD/monitor? This will determine how powerful of a card is needed.

5. How much physical room is available in your case? Some cards are 10+ inches log.

6. What is your motherboard chipset?



You will also need to determine your budget for upgrades.



Currently ATI has a performance/price advantage over nVidia. I personally have nVidia cards, GTX260-216, GTS250, and 8800GT, so I can only speak from experience on nVidia. I have been pleased with all three of these cards.



However if I was building a total new system I would likely buy ATI. I hear the ATI 56x0, 57x0, and 58x0 are quite nice cards also.

[Demonik Angel]

as far the as Radeon HD5750 goes where a good place to get one of those, I tried newegg but the only thing that came up are pc's that have it prebuilt into it, nothing for just the actual card itsself.

Doofus42: if it would help any, the one that gorath linked to from newegg is what my pc is, except it has a 1TB HDD in it.

Modifié par Demonik Angel, 31 mars 2010 - 07:11 .

[Doofus42]

HD5750
http://www.newegg.co...Radeon HD 57504
HD5770
http://www.newegg.co...=Radeon HD 5770

Modifié par Doofus42, 31 mars 2010 - 07:09 .

[Doofus42]

Looking at HP's web site:

The Power Supply is rated at 300W and there is 1 PCI-e x16 graphics slot.

I could not find out anything more about the power supply.

The chipset (Northbridge/Southbridge) is nVidia based.

You should open your case and look at the Power supply specs and look for a 6-pin PCI-e connector.

Modifié par Doofus42, 31 mars 2010 - 07:27 .

[Askal]

Demonik, if you're willing to open your case up now, we can know for sure whether the cards will fit. The 5750 Vapor-X is 8 1/4" long, so please measure to see if that will fit in your case across the PCI-E lane (looks like the leftmost slot in this picture: http://ow.ly/1tgSt)

EDIT: Thanks Doofus for looking that up. I forgot about the PSU (!) but it looks like it would be best if it were replaced. I remember the recommended wattage for 5770 is min 450W and the 12V rail probably isn't reliable either.

Here's a good one from Antec http://ow.ly/1th8d
With this video card it will be a little over your budget but I think it would be best even if you have to wait a little. http://ow.ly/1the2
Sapphire's Vapor-X series runs very cool which is important because video cards tend to generate a lot of heat and if your computer gets too hot, it could cause malfunctions and/or shorten you PC's lifespan.

Modifié par Askal, 31 mars 2010 - 07:50 .

[Doofus42]

HD 5670 - 400W PSU

HD 5570 - 400W PSU

HD 5450 - 400W PSU



Yeah, that 300W PSU isn't going to cut it.

[Doofus42]

All the ATI 56x0 and below have a 400W PSU minimum.

The nVdia GTS240 has a 300W PSU minimum.  Not much of a card though.

Modifié par Doofus42, 31 mars 2010 - 07:54 .

[Demonik Angel]

well i cant find my tape measure right now, but going from how the picture looks to whats in my pc, it looks like it should fit no problem, it looks identical to the picutre you showed me.

also, the two you showed me is just a little over the 200 so i should be able to order both this payday and get em at the same time.

Modifié par Demonik Angel, 31 mars 2010 - 07:54 .

[Demonik Angel]

it seems like its a good thing i was looking into replacing most of the parts to the pc lol

[Askal]

Heh, yeah. You'll have a pretty nice rig by the end of this though. Probably better than mine.

If you can stand to spend $25 more, the 5770 Vapor-X has a noticable performance jump over it's little brother but I don't mean to push you towards spending more, I just though you should know your options. http://ow.ly/1thsu

Modifié par Askal, 31 mars 2010 - 08:00 .

[Demonik Angel]

thats not bad at all, and i do appreciate all the help, im actually just now trying to get into pc gaming, and i know im a total noob at this so thanks for the help.

[Doofus42]

Demonik Angel - you've got a good CPU and plenty of memory. The PSU is the real limiting factor here. You will need to get that tape measure out.

What are the dimensions of the existing PSU? Also is it an ATX standard?

I like Corsair PSUs. This is a TX650W for $80 after rebate.  It would party proof you for a long time.  And let you get that HD5770!
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139005
I have a TX850 that is running 2 GTS250s in SLI and an 8800GT, Q6600 OCed to 3.5GHz, 4 disks, 4x1GB RAM, and doing a great job.

Don't worry about being a noob.  You won't be a noob long because you know to ask questions!

Modifié par Doofus42, 31 mars 2010 - 08:10 .

[Askal]

I'm glad to help. Don't worry about being a noob at least you don't waste a lot of time on computer articles like me

EDIT: If you want to future proof, you should take Doofus' advice and get that Corsair. It would be a good investment since PSUs are one of, if not the most important component in a computer and comply to a standard size so even you wanted a brand new computer, you could take the TX650 out and plop it in the new one.

Is it just me or do computer upgrades always get more and more expensive the more you think/talk about it? lol

Modifié par Askal, 31 mars 2010 - 08:11 .

[Demonik Angel]

thanks again guys and as soon as i can find or get a new tape measure ill deff measure it, and depending on how much i get paid i may try to get both the card and psu this week, if not then the psu this week and card next check.

and yes, it does get more and more expensive lol, but thats the price you gotta pay if you want a good running pc.

ive also sent both of your FR's on here.

Modifié par Demonik Angel, 31 mars 2010 - 08:17 .

[Doofus42]

Computer upgrades are like dominoes - you can never stop at knocking just 1 down.  I built a new system last summer from cast offs from another system.  All I had to buy was a new case, motherboard, and power supply.  I had a spare CPU, 4GB memory, hard drives, DVD, keyboard, mouse, LCD, from upgrading another system.