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[sumof all fear]

I'm sorry all I can think of when I see this is the rorshach quote "GIMME BACK MY FACE"



tali just isn't tali without that mask... just like Master Chief, the mask is the face, removing it is simply wrong.

[Upset Goldfish]

To all the guys taking this FAR too seriously:

It's fan art. It's whatever the artist conceptualised in his mind. You are of course entitled to your opinions, the artist has simply expressed his in a medium with which he can share.

What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that it is a picture. We REALLY don't need to be getting into arguments over it.

We are all part of the community. <3<3<3 /hugs.

Well, I thought I was, apparently I'm just British.

[Hader102]

 That is a very nice rendition of Tali; hell, if Bioware doesn't have one made for her/quarians already, they should use that. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Very nice. Looks so human, though.

[FlyingWalrus]

Those saying "too human" are idiots.

But fantastic work. More imaginative, dare I say, than Night Elf lookalikes and the sort. Generational isolation would cause such things as decreased pigmentation in the skin, pale features overall, and I thought the cybernetic dealios were a nice and thoughtful touch.

[GodWood]

FlyingWalrus wrote...

Those saying "too human" are idiots.

And why is that?

Its a good picture on a technical level.
But its not creative at all, all they did was make her look entirely human.

If you romance an alien, expect it to look like an alien.

Modifié par GodWood, 01 avril 2010 - 06:28 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

FlyingWalrus wrote...

Those saying "too human" are idiots.
But fantastic work. More imaginative, dare I say, than Night Elf lookalikes and the sort. Generational isolation would cause such things as decreased pigmentation in the skin, pale features overall, and I thought the cybernetic dealios were a nice and thoughtful touch.

Right, I'm an idiot. But evidently you never read ME Ascension.

It is mentioned in the novel that quarians might look human physically, but in actual appearance they are definitely alien. Now, looking at that picture, I wouldn't say so.

And incidentally, you should be a little more civilized. Because jumping out of nowhere and claiming that those who think what are idiots is immature at best.

[GHOST OF FRUITY]

A lovely looking piece of art. I'd be pretty happy if Quarians do have that kind of appearance.

[Spanking Machine]

That version seem just about perfect.  It seems to match her voice.

[Darth_Trethon]

The only "too human" complaint should be aimed at BioWare. That's what the quarians are mostly made to resemble. There's nothing other than a human face that we can expect to find under that mask when/if it is removed by BioWare. Glowing eyes, skin color and patterns are all nice but the face is still a human one just like the body is more than 90% human. This is NOT news, this is part of the reason why Tali became so loved.

[TheBusDriver707]

I am still amazed to this day how some of the creepy SOBs on this place are SO obsessed with a video game character to the point of calling her beautiful, stunning, etc, and even attacking other people who say something wrong about them. This isn't even about the Tali weirdos, though they do seem to take the cake.



Oh, and I know I will get some pissy responses, it just proves my point. Whenever I have 10 minutes of downtime and need a quick laugh, this place really fills that spot!

[JedTed]

Not a bad peice of fan art. While i doubt the quarians look that close to humans i think the cybernetics are a nice touch. Hard to believe that the race who created the geth wouldn't have some kind of cybernetic enhancements.

[TheBusDriver707]

One more thing, whos avatar is a picture of a ...baby?...asari? Kinda gives me the creeps but to each his own I guess.

[FlyingWalrus]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Right, I'm an idiot. But evidently you never read ME Ascension.

It is mentioned in the novel that quarians might look human physically, but in actual appearance they are definitely alien. Now, looking at that picture, I wouldn't say so.

And incidentally, you should be a little more civilized. Because jumping out of nowhere and claiming that those who think what are idiots is immature at best.

Quarians have an endoskeleton, lips, teeth, and two eyes with eyelids
and tear ducts; they also have three thick fingers on both hands which
include a thumb and an index finger, as well as three toes on each
foot. Their ears or ear analogues differ in a noticeable fashion from
those of humans, with references made to "what [passes] for the quarian
version of an ear" (Ascension, p. 235).

Yeah, you're an idiot.

Within the scope of the language, about the only things left to the imagination of the reader are the coloration of the skin, minute details such as cybernetic enhancements (or, maybe, bioluminescence), and more specific detail about the shape and proportion of said features. Worst of all, 'definitely alien' could encompass such things as the three-flanged hands and feet. I'd say those are definitely alien, wouldn't you? Glowing eyes would certainly be alien in my State. Wouldn't grayed out skin count as definitely alien? What about their ear analogues? Quite alien, if you ask me.

tl;dr, cram your sermons.

Modifié par FlyingWalrus, 01 avril 2010 - 06:42 .

[JKoopman]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

FlyingWalrus wrote...

Those saying "too human" are idiots.
But fantastic work. More imaginative, dare I say, than Night Elf lookalikes and the sort. Generational isolation would cause such things as decreased pigmentation in the skin, pale features overall, and I thought the cybernetic dealios were a nice and thoughtful touch.

Right, I'm an idiot. But evidently you never read ME Ascension.

It is mentioned in the novel that quarians might look human physically, but in actual appearance they are definitely alien. Now, looking at that picture, I wouldn't say so.

And incidentally, you should be a little more civilized. Because jumping out of nowhere and claiming that those who think what are idiots is immature at best.

Ummm... no it doesn't. It says the exact opposite, actually. Ascension states that quarians have eyes with eyelids and a mouth with lips and teeth. It makes no mention of any distinctly "alien" features save for their ears being somehow different. Add to that what we can see through Tali's facemask and it can be reasonably assumed that quarians have very human faces.

Seriously, what are people expecting from Tali fanart? Beaks? Horns? Multiple sets of eyes? None of that would mesh with what we know as fact about quarian physiology.

Modifié par JKoopman, 01 avril 2010 - 06:44 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Well, I absolutely love this fan art (saved the picture actually) and I'm amazed as to how it was done. I honestly just didn't expect to see a quarians fan-art to look this humanish.

EDIT: I could swear the "definitely alien" description was said about the quarians in Ascension, though. I just reread the novel a couple weeks ago. I'm not sure what Drew was trying to point out, but one can only guess. 

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 01 avril 2010 - 06:49 .

[Darth_Trethon]

FlyingWalrus wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Right, I'm an idiot. But evidently you never read ME Ascension.

It is mentioned in the novel that quarians might look human physically, but in actual appearance they are definitely alien. Now, looking at that picture, I wouldn't say so.

And incidentally, you should be a little more civilized. Because jumping out of nowhere and claiming that those who think what are idiots is immature at best.

Quarians have an endoskeleton, lips, teeth, and two eyes with eyelids
and tear ducts; they also have three thick fingers on both hands which
include a thumb and an index finger, as well as three toes on each
foot. Their ears or ear analogues differ in a noticeable fashion from
those of humans, with references made to "what [passes] for the quarian
version of an ear" (Ascension, p. 235).

Yeah, you're an idiot.

Within the scope of the language, about the only things left to the imagination of the reader are the coloration of the skin, minute details such as cybernetic enhancements (or, maybe, bioluminescence), and more specific detail about the shape and proportion of said features. Worst of all, 'definitely alien' could encompass such things as the three-flanged hands and feet. I'd say those are definitely alien, wouldn't you? Glowing eyes would certainly be alien in my State. Wouldn't grayed out skin count as definitely alien? What about their ear analogues? Quite alien, if you ask me.

tl;dr, cram your sermons.

THANK YOU a million times for the page number. I remembered but couldn't remember for sure or the section of the book that was in. This should shut all the nonsense about tali's face being more alien or not having a normal mouth and all the resst of that nonsense. Point in case.....Quarians DO have faces that look human and that;s the end of it. Like it or not blame BioWare but that's the way it is and I'm perfectly happy.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Yup, Fly, I see your point and I agree. I would have liked it more if you didn't resort to that kind of name calling, though. Just saying.

[Darth_Trethon]

:wub:Tali:wub:

[FlyingWalrus]

I tend to be blunt. It just seemed like an insult to the artist to use that as a criticism, especially based on what we know. I apologize, so on.

[Fiery Phoenix]

FlyingWalrus wrote...

I tend to be blunt. It just seemed like an insult to the artist to use that as a criticism, especially based on what we know. I apologize, so on.

 Not at all. Like I said earleir, I LOVE the picture. Whoever made it deserves a big kiss on the cheek! It's officially saved in my picture document.

And thanks for the acknowledgement.

[Gunslinger0331usmc]

When those of you look at the picture and say "Wow she's so beautiful, are you talking about the Art work? That's a very good rendition I agree completely. Now if what was that she herself has a beautiful face, I can't relate unless you mean as an example of her species. Being well formed, possessing an unmistakably feminine face, etc. Much the way you could admire a picture perfect example of a certain breed of dog.... "Oh That's such a beautiful Doberman". I understand those comments when noted from that perspective. That being said, various discussions around the forum turn that admiration into something lustful, which is a little strange. I've come across heated debates where some folks are actually arguing about Tali (same with every other Female character it seems) being "hot" or "sexy". I just don't get it, and it's not just because I disagree, it would be the same answer if it was My favorite female character.... Some of you need to go out more often!

That being said, kudos to Bioware for bringing such characters to life that illicit such a strong emotional response in their audience. Were they (Bioware) so inclined, I'm sure there are some "interesting" merchandising opportunities to be had there.

Maybe someone can explain the obsessions to me some day......

I hope that artist does more characters/material from the M.E. universe. It was a great piece!

[Spartas Husky]

All I know is BIoware got a biggggggg job in their hands. to make sure tali is remembered.

[GodWood]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

FlyingWalrus wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Right, I'm an idiot. But evidently you never read ME Ascension.

It is mentioned in the novel that quarians might look human physically, but in actual appearance they are definitely alien. Now, looking at that picture, I wouldn't say so.

And incidentally, you should be a little more civilized. Because jumping out of nowhere and claiming that those who think what are idiots is immature at best.

Quarians have an endoskeleton, lips, teeth, and two eyes with eyelids
and tear ducts; they also have three thick fingers on both hands which
include a thumb and an index finger, as well as three toes on each
foot. Their ears or ear analogues differ in a noticeable fashion from
those of humans, with references made to "what [passes] for the quarian
version of an ear" (Ascension, p. 235).

Yeah, you're an idiot.

Within the scope of the language, about the only things left to the imagination of the reader are the coloration of the skin, minute details such as cybernetic enhancements (or, maybe, bioluminescence), and more specific detail about the shape and proportion of said features. Worst of all, 'definitely alien' could encompass such things as the three-flanged hands and feet. I'd say those are definitely alien, wouldn't you? Glowing eyes would certainly be alien in my State. Wouldn't grayed out skin count as definitely alien? What about their ear analogues? Quite alien, if you ask me.

tl;dr, cram your sermons.

THANK YOU a million times for the page number. I remembered but couldn't remember for sure or the section of the book that was in. This should shut all the nonsense about tali's face being more alien or not having a normal mouth and all the resst of that nonsense. Point in case.....Quarians DO have faces that look human and that;s the end of it. Like it or not blame BioWare but that's the way it is and I'm perfectly happy.

You know what?
Batarians have, lips, eyes, eyelids and ears, they also have more human looking bodies than the quarians.
Drell have lips, eyes, eyelids and much more human looking bodies.
Yet both these species look very alien, they're still humanoid but in no way are they as human as the picture the OP posted.

Personally I don't think many people in "reality" would find a quarian to be physically attractive.
Ever had a cast on your arm for a few months? Now imagine that except all over, thats what a quarians skin would be like, it would also be incredibly sensitive and pasty due to lack of light and exposure. (but for those who actually like Tali this shouldn't be a problem)


Sadly Bioware ruined the best oportunity to reveal Tali's face (or even just a quarian's face in general) so I think they probably won't ever be showing it and thus these debates will continue

[We Are Harbinger]

egh she looks like a husk. I knew she'd be ugly.



But at this point the taliphobes would still pine over here if it was a skinned dog under that mask.