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[Garak2]

Well, BioWare against Valve would be interesting. Do you think Valve or Zynga would give BioWare more of a challenge.

[Captain Crash]

Well whatever happens the 10,000 people would would normally vote agaisnt Bioware will be so hate ridden being beat by Farmville!! they will certainly vote just to keep them away!



Personally I think its scary they can classify a flash game in the same league!

[Sad Dragon]

Sad to say. But BioWare vs Zynga - Zynga with their spam for votes will win



/The Really Sad Dragon

[Kurupt87]

The Zynga vs Valve thread has a total of 38,000+ votes and coming up on a million views, with 16,000+ replies. In two days.

I am able to stay impartial through most everything, but seeing Zynga spam vote its way past: NCSoft; Infinity Ward; Square Enix; Rockstar North and now handily beating Valve, really pisses off the gamer in me.

Edit: SP

Modifié par Kurupt87, 03 avril 2010 - 11:44 .

[Abriael_CG]

Sad Dragon wrote...

Sad to say. But BioWare vs Zynga - Zynga with their spam for votes will win

/The Really Sad Dragon

It depends. Bioware has plenty ways to reach their fanbase like Zynga does. It remains to be seen if they'll bother.

[Garak2]

Outside of Zynga, I don't think any developer in this competition cares about it. Which begs the question, why should we?

[Abriael_CG]

Garak2 wrote...

Outside of Zynga, I don't think any developer in this competition cares about it. Which begs the question, why should we?

Really now?
http://www.escapistm...page=16#5568139

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 04 avril 2010 - 03:34 .

[Garak2]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Garak2 wrote...

Outside of Zynga, I don't think any developer in this competition cares about it. Which begs the question, why should we?

Really now?
http://www.escapistm...page=16#5568139

That's all fine and dandy but everyone on Escapist had likely already voted before he showed up. The promotional stuff should be done HERE.

[Abriael_CG]

Garak2 wrote...

That's all fine and dandy but everyone on Escapist had likely already voted before he showed up. The promotional stuff should be done HERE.

Doing some big promotion for a semifinal on what's in the end no more than a private portal would be quite pathetic to be honest. For sure not very classy.

Blizzard put a sticky official post on their forums begging people to vote, and they still failed lol.

Now, finals are a different matter. We'll have to see.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 04 avril 2010 - 03:46 .

[Garak2]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Garak2 wrote...

That's all fine and dandy but everyone on Escapist had likely already voted before he showed up. The promotional stuff should be done HERE.

Doing some big promotion for a semifinal on what's in the end no more than a private portal would be quite pathetic to be honest. For sure not very classy.

Blizzard put a sticky official post on their forums begging people to vote, and they still failed lol.

Now, finals are a different matter. We'll have to see.

So asking people to vote in the semifinals is not classy but doing it in the finals is?

[Abriael_CG]

Garak2 wrote...
So asking people to vote in the semifinals is not classy but doing it in the finals is?

I'd say yes. Spamming your customer for something other than offering a service or a product (actually asking them to perform a service for you, that, mind you, includes creating an account on a third party unaffiliated website) is frowned upon basically in every industry, so it's done only in very special cases.

now, reaching the finals of a competition might be considered such a special case. But if the company isn't able to even reach the finals out of it's own popularity without  directly begging their customers for votes, then I'd say it'd be pretty farfetched to spam us.

No serious marketing team would ever approve that, so I'm not surprised that the only ones that sent spam directly to their customers in order to beg for votes before the semifinals are Zynga. They're a ragtag amateurish developer that has no real notion of the etiquette of promotion or the rules of customer satisfaction.

Dealing with marketing for a living, I'm pretty sure that if i proposed such an action to any of my higher profile clients without showing a chance for immediate and effective promotional results (IE: "we're already at the finals, if we push a little bit there's a solid chance for us to win" ), I'd get das boot in das face.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 04 avril 2010 - 04:23 .

[Feraele]

I've been away from all that for a bit..so? Did Bioware win or what? hehe

[AshedMan]

Feraele wrote...

I've been away from all that for a bit..so? Did Bioware win or what? hehe

Voting for this round goes until tomorrow.  

[Feraele]

Fallunlight wrote...

annnnnnnnnnnnnd BioWare HAS WON AGAINST BLIZZARD!!!!

A TRIUMPH!

Now... the true battle against filth; walking away from the battlefield of glory pertaining both great nations, BioWare has defeated Blizzard. There are many dead, known traitors but all in all, an honourable battle. Yet now, a common foe emerges victorious against an ally, Valve. Zynga was the name of the devious, treacherous nation and now they want more blood, as well to hold the staff as the king of developers.

We must not let this happen, brothers, even now our deafeated foe, Blizzard is required to aid in the defeat of this diabolical climb to the top. Rally the allies! ready the guards! let every man, child and girl-gamer know, that the time is now to strike. For Freedom of ad spamming! for depth of a great story! and awesome graphics! now! Lead on...

May your stories be great and the victory forever known as the day BioWare and allies, shut down the menacing Zynga corporation! *cheer*

Right on!!!  Congrats Bioware.

[Garak2]

Abriael_CG wrote...

Garak2 wrote...
So asking people to vote in the semifinals is not classy but doing it in the finals is?

I'd say yes. Spamming your customer for something other than offering a service or a product (actually asking them to perform a service for you, that, mind you, includes creating an account on a third party unaffiliated website) is frowned upon basically in every industry, so it's done only in very special cases.

now, reaching the finals of a competition might be considered such a special case. But if the company isn't able to even reach the finals out of it's own popularity without  directly begging their customers for votes, then I'd say it'd be pretty farfetched to spam us.

No serious marketing team would ever approve that, so I'm not surprised that the only ones that sent spam directly to their customers in order to beg for votes before the semifinals are Zynga. They're a ragtag amateurish developer that has no real notion of the etiquette of promotion or the rules of customer satisfaction.

Dealing with marketing for a living, I'm pretty sure that if i proposed such an action to any of my higher profile clients without showing a chance for immediate and effective promotional results (IE: "we're already at the finals, if we push a little bit there's a solid chance for us to win" ), I'd get das boot in das face.

I can see the unprofessional nature of what Zynga is doing but what they are doing is bringing them the win. At the end of the day though, this contest is really not important enough to ****** off your fans over. 

[LPPrince]

The fact that Zynga even COUNTS shows that people shouldn't take this seriously.

[Feraele]

Its rather weird that a browser game dev would even be considered against companies like Bioware or Blizzard...unfathomable as a matter of fact.

[Soldiers-Requiem]

How is this even a competition? Blizzard blatantly ripped off the 40k universe and World of Warcraft is a grind fest pile of garbage. Massive amounts of players does not a good game equal which brings me to Farmville.... Seriously?

[LPPrince]

Thank God, Valve has passed Zynga.



I don't mind Valve vs. Bioware.



Hmm, maybe this IS worth something.

[Feraele]

LPPrince wrote...

Thank God, Valve has passed Zynga.

I don't mind Valve vs. Bioware.

Hmm, maybe this IS worth something.

Glad to hear it,  did Valve win by a good margin?  Hopefully so,  I hear the Facebook fanatics had Zynga out-pacing everyone for a time.

[Onyx Jaguar]

If it ends up being Valve v Bioware, my hat goes in with Valve. Sorry guys

[RigAudio]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

If it ends up being Valve v Bioware, my hat goes in with Valve. Sorry guys

I might join you there
But I'm making a Mass Effect machinima with some guys to promote the Bioware vote. It'll be awesome.

[LPPrince]

RigAudio wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

If it ends up being Valve v Bioware, my hat goes in with Valve. Sorry guys

I might join you there
But I'm making a Mass Effect machinima with some guys to promote the Bioware vote. It'll be awesome.

Dude, Rig, I saw that video you linked to on escapist.

That was AWESOME.

Working with machinima's gonna rock. Best of luck, bro. Impress us.

[Feraele]

Ok I had no clue what Farmville was..so did a search and had a look.



You have GOT to be kidding me...that simplistic ..kiddie game is what all the fuss is about? Doesn't say much for Facebookers..I have to say, they obviously haven't gamed much..other than that example ...hehehe

[Abriael_CG]

I really hope it'll be Valve vs Bioware. Zynga doesn't deserve the finals (they didn't deserve even to beat NCsoft on the first turn), but I'm afraid things will change again when the facebookers will wake up, unless, like I had hoped, they'll lack the staying power at the very end.

In the case of Bioware vs Valve, though, my choice would be still obvious. The makers of some of the best RPGs in the world with a talent in storytelling and the creation of deep and interesting characters

or...

The respected but also fairly run-of-the-mill developers of a lot of quite dull shooters (and of an overrated puzzle game), that never learned decent storytelling and refuse to learn to develp on one of this generation's main platforms, publicly bashing it to cover up for their own lazyness?

Obvious choice is obvious.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 04 avril 2010 - 07:54 .