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[syllogi]

DarthCaine wrote...

If one LI is recruitable, they all are (except maybe Thane)
If one LI isn't recruitable, none of them are
Trust me on this

Bioware will punk us all and make Jacob the only recruitable LI, just because we've been naughty and can't get along.  Let's all be good now! 

[Badpie]

TeenZombie wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

If one LI is recruitable, they all are (except maybe Thane)
If one LI isn't recruitable, none of them are
Trust me on this

Bioware will punk us all and make Jacob the only recruitable LI, just because we've been naughty and can't get along.  Let's all be good now! 

Cruel, Teen.  Cruel. 

As for Liara dying, I don't know.  I don't know what they'll do with any of the love interests or characters in general.  Could there be some scripted deaths?  I hope not.  Or if there are, hopefully for the non-romanceable characters only.  Everyone deserves their happy ending I think.  I realize it would be "dramatic" and "emotionally engaging" and all but it would also just kind of be cruel i think.

[SithLordExarKun]

I would prefer an "optional death" rather than a "default" scripted death if you know what i am talking about. Something similar to the suicide mission in ME2.

[DOYOURLABS]

I think if you don't do the observer mission she dies. She hints at that when she says "Had she been ordered to assassinate me, I don't think I would have seen it coming"

[Fat Headed Wolf]

TeenZombie wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

If one LI is recruitable, they all are (except maybe Thane)
If one LI isn't recruitable, none of them are
Trust me on this

Bioware will punk us all and make Jacob the only recruitable LI  

When  I was growing up, we used to have a saying that something was "better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick". 

Basically, that this was at least better than something; anything.

But if Jacob was truly the only recruitable LI, I can literally say that would be worse than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. 

I would actually enjoy a poke in my eye more than seeing him return as the only LI. 



 

[TJSolo]

The visions and cipher were used by the Protheans as a warning systems about the Reapers. It would not make sense that the warning system would make one more susceptible to the problem.

[Ulathar]

scyphozoa wrote...
but i think it is her bad attitude that will get her killed!

Some believe that "bad attitude" is just a facade, but let's not go into that argument :-)
Assuming you are correct, Shepard might come in there and maybe able to help Liara get back to her old self and thus save her. If he/she doesn't, Liara might make a bad choice and gets killed or you are forced to make a choice that results in her death - or refuse to make that choice even then - which results in your mission getting harder. Then again, ME is all about choices :-)

[kraidy1117]

It's time to show these people defending Dink how much of a moron they are.



Dink qoutes from the feel of ME

"ME2s focus on shooter gameplay and cinematic conversations cant override my own view that in all the import areas, I consider ME1 the far superior game.

By comparison to ME1, ME2 was a ****** and mediocre shooter title."



"Dinkamus actually suffers from a "I think this game is a dumbed down shooter wannabe" syndrome. I thought Liaras role in ME2 sucked, for sure, but thats nowhere near all the problems I have with this game.

I know its easier for you to try and dismiss by fabricating crap, but you should know its a dismal failure."





Followng your stupidity, you completely failed to comprehend my argument and like all ther other butthurtees around here, resorted to trying to dismiss as "hes pissed because Liara aint a squadmate".



"Its funny that, because I have her in my sig, you chose to ignore my original statement which as someone pointed out, was about the FEEL of ME2.

Its clear you cant contest opinion, but are too much of a fanboy yourself to let the criticism go unchecked, and resort to ridiculous crud like this to try and contest it."



"Someone here has a negative view, and is as rude to others as they are to him.

Someone else here is an arrogant snob, who likes to pretend they know it all. They have a default Shepard forum pic."



"Oh lookie, a fanboy circle jerk. Arent you guys just the most adorable little love in Ive seen the side of any group of butt kissers."



"What point? What argument? All I had to respond to was the arrogant assumptions of a deluded roleplaying forum poster.

ts rich you accuse me of adding nothing to the discussion, when all you did was type "Here are my thoughts on how ME3 will go down, and if you dont like it, leave".



Those who live in glass houses or post on forums under a ridiculous fictional character persona shouldnt throw stones or make accusations of not deconstructing an argument.

In short: youre a whiny, deluded hypocrite.

Honestly guys, all of this because ME2 got criticised. You expecting Bioware to mail you flowers, despite all your constant hate and trolling of ME1? (oh the irony)"



"I could live with that, though these bozos wouldnt have you believe it."



From the old forums and such that prove Dink a Liara fanboy and hates ME2 because Liara is not a party mate and is a ME2



I've had enough of your snide insinuations.



Since you aren't going to listen to anyone else, you might as well listen to yourself.



http://social.biowar...4813/88#1231864

"Yes, thats right Liara, my Shepard really gives a **** about his mission when youve just poured your heart out telling him how you put yourself through hell, and beat yourself up after emerging alive, and all for him. He totally wouldnt want to comfort you in a more personal and meaningful way."



http://meforums.biow...15458&forum=144

"Didnt you know? The ME2 love interests are far more "compelling", and so your Shepard will probably cheat on the ME1 love interest.

I will no doubt feel "compelled" to smash them in the face with a shovel. But Shepard cheat on Liara in my main playthrough? Nah."



http://social.biowar...341/229#1723108

"I demand paragon interrupt to have Shepard strip down to his boxers and try and break it up, or Im not buying it."



http://meforums.biow...15223&forum=144

"You know its kind of a common theme in certain sci-fi that "the aliens" arent really any different from us when you get down to what fundamentally makes a person. Its still two people who love eachother."



http://social.biowar...5341/26#1385640

"Yeah, I pity the players who had Shepard choose an ME2 LI. They dont get anything remotely like that wonderful scene in ME1. "



http://social.biowar...635278/3#642061

"Oh yes indeedy am I making my Shepard stay loyal to Liara, no matter how small a role she might play."



http:/forums.bioware.com/my_account/viewprofile.html/forum/1/topic/103/index/689673/6#691924

"Hate on Liara? Why would I want to do that? Id much rather continue to hate on this new band of unimpressive posers who irritate me before the game is even started."



http://meforums.biow...&forum=144&sp=0

"Not only was she my romance choice, she played a pretty big role in the main plot. To have her return in anything less than a full team mate for the whole game will be a massive let down."



http://meforums.biow...orum=144&sp=270

"Just an overwhelming wave of disappointment to know that no matter how well made ME2 is (and it truly looks to be well made) its now already failed as a sequel in my eyes.

For what reason? Since I was right to suspect the romances are back seaters..."



http://social.biowar...341/230#1723376

"At least Liara comes to comfort Shepard after the council screws him over, and you get one of the most sweet "almost kiss" moments ever."



http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=30

"I think she is "pretty". Saying she is "attractive" is meaningless to someone like me, who finds her positively "unattractive".

Its no different to folks saying Liara is "cute", while I think she is extremely attractive and beautiful."



http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=15

"Actually, scratch that. Even the most emotionally engaging space turnip cant turn my Shepards head away from Liara."



http://meforums.biow...rum=144&sp=1305

"Quote: Posted 12/16/09 00:11 (GMT) by ratzerman

How 'bout that Liara? Pretty hot, right?

.... JEEEZUS! yeah"



http://meforums.biow...98216&forum=144

"However I have to admit, if Im prepared to accept a race of giant machines wiping out advanced life in the galaxy every few millennia, I have to accept the human desire to go into outer space and mate with aliens. Which I have to point out, in Liaras case is something my Shepard didnt turn down (which by extension probably means I wouldnt in the same situation. Im as bad as Zapp Brannigan!). "



http://meforums.biow...80893&forum=144

"They certainly have my trust that they will handle it properly.

As for the benefit, I think its entirely down to personal preference on if you think it adds to the story. Unless Bioware have some sort of plan in place for Shepard and his/her romance choice to start breeding minions...."



http://meforums.biow...orum=144.&sp=30

"I imagined Shepard as inexperienced in sex and relationships anyway (due to a life as an orphan struggling to survive on Earth, and then straight into a military career) and it was Liara holding him back."



http://meforums.biow...forum=144&sp=15

"My main playthrough this simply will not be a concern for me. Im not interested in what the ME2 LIs offer. I didnt romance Liara in ME1 for one brief shot of backside, and (so quick I missed it) the fabled "side-boob". I did it because I felt it made Shepard seem a more real character, instead of the cardboard cut-out "saviour of the galaxy"."



http://meforums.biow...orum=144.&sp=15

"I think, as Shepard says to Liara earlier in the romance, you cant control these things, only get swept away with them. I figure Liara decided there was no point waiting and trying to control it. She just had to let go and express her true feelings rather than wait around and ruin it."



http://social.biowar...46641/3#1349324

"How on earth do you "cheat" or "stay loyal" if there is absolutely no romance in ME2 to stay loyal to/cheat on? It was complete garbage. The "troubled second act" of the romance amounted to an appearance on the Normandy at the start, a holo/photo on the desk, and an awkward and cut off kiss on Illium. Bioware actually needs to offer up some real content for any of this stuff to make sense IMO. At the moment there is no "second act" for Liara and Shepard."



http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/1653313/3#1654614

"Yeah, thankfully many have hit the nail on the head already: Though you wouldnt know it from her utterly crap ME2 role that was a complete embarrassment, Liara is the most important character in the trilogy other than Shepard. Far more important than Tali easily. The only reason Tali has even been suggested is because of her horde of fanboys, but face facts, she isnt that important."



http://social.biowar...4813/78#1193284

"Yeah, I think jlb already knows I like her cuddle Liaras holo pic, but its worth saying here is well.

They should have given you the option to interact with it after the suicide mission like that. The fish die and the space hamster plays a miniature giant space violin, and Shepard quietly sobs at the poorly executed Liara cameo s/he had to endure."



http://social.biowar...4123/46#1195172

"Yeah, by then LIaras ****ty cameo role had already tainted my "emotional investment" in the entire game beyond repair. It has its nice side to it, but by then I was just too cynical and bitter about the whole game, and could only muster a sarcastic "well, at leat they gave us THAT!""



http://social.biowar...66886/1#1167149

"Just as you cannot stop Shepard from dying, you cannot stop Liara from saving Shepards life.

Deal with it Liara haters."

[SithLordExarKun]

^ Actually i may sound like a dick but you're beating a dead horse. Lets just stay on topic.

[Nozybidaj]

kraidy1117 wrote...
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Hahaha, you actually took the time to go collect all those quotes?  U mad bro...

[kraidy1117]

Nozybidaj wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
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Hahaha, you actually took the time to go collect all those quotes?  U mad bro...

I wanted to prove my point and I did. Any body who tries to protect Dink is his friend, a moron or a die hard Liara fan who does not want to see the truth. Good day all.

[Nozybidaj]

kraidy1117 wrote...

I wanted to prove my point and I did.

Cheesecake is the best dessert ever.  Yum!

[Badpie]

This thread was already back on topic and you had to pull out the wall of text. (It's weird that you have that by the way). I'm sure this will de-rail it once again, but I'm starting to figure out that's what you wanted anyway. So congratulations. Apparently this thread can't be saved because you won't allow it.

Is it so much to ask that you just...I don't know...LET THINGS GO every once in awhile? I'm talking to everyone here, not just you kraidy. There is no reason that this debate should still be going on, especially considering the person you're referring to hasn't even posted in this thread in pages.  You're starting to obsess about him and quite frankly that's a little weird in my book.

Modifié par Badpie, 01 avril 2010 - 06:37 .

[Hader102]

Nozybidaj wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I wanted to prove my point and I did.

Cheesecake is the best dessert ever.  Yum!

Ditto! Lol

[SithLordExarKun]

I just think the mods should lock any thread with the name "Liara" written on it.... I dunno but its like a dick magnet for trouble.

[kraidy1117]

Badpie wrote...

This thread was already back on topic and you had to pull out the wall of text. (It's weird that you have that by the way). I'm sure this will de-rail it once again, but I'm starting to figure out that's what you wanted anyway. So congratulations. Apparently this thread can't be saved because you won't allow it.

Is it so much to ask that you just...I don't know...LET THINGS GO every once in awhile? I'm talking to everyone here, not just you kraidy. There is no reason that this debate should still be going on, especially considering the person you're referring to hasn't even posted in this thread in pages.

Those qoutes are not hard to get, and my point is proven. Dink is a troll. Anybody who protects him is blind, his friend, a moron or a liara fanboy. With this I am done here. Have fun guys.

[kraidy1117]

Hader102 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I wanted to prove my point and I did.

Cheesecake is the best dessert ever.  Yum!

Ditto! Lol

I want bannas with my cheesecake.

[Fat Headed Wolf]

kraidy1117 wrote...

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You spent all that time looking for those quotes that you didn't realize that we had long since moved on.

Its like one of those Vietnamese soldiers who ran into the jungle during the war but didn't come out until the 90's and started talking about defeating the Americans. 

Modifié par Fat Headed Wolf, 01 avril 2010 - 06:50 .

[Nozybidaj]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Hader102 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I wanted to prove my point and I did.

Cheesecake is the best dessert ever.  Yum!

Ditto! Lol

I want bannas with my cheesecake.

NO BANNAS!!   Only strawberries.

[kraidy1117]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

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You spent all that time looking for those quotes that you didn't realize that we had long since moved on.

Its like on of those Vietnamese soldiers who ran into the jungle during the war but didn't come out until the 90's and started talking about defeating the Americans. 

Not that long, the topic with those qoutes was bumped already. Not hard to pull that stuff.

[marshalleck]

Hopefully she'll die as a result of my Shepard intentionally feeding her bad info regarding who to kill on Illium.

[Blameless77]

I strongly suspect Liara (and everyone else) can potentially die in ME3. I really doubt, however, that Bioware would kill off an LI and not allow the player to do anything about it (especially the notion that they'd just single out Liara to die). I could, however, easily see Bioware forcing the player to make a difficult choice concerning their LI (save the LI, but at great cost).

[GuardianAngel470]

Daeion wrote...

If Liara can die, then I would imagine so could all of the potential LI's.

Honestly, I hope Bioware switches up the things that can happen to LIs.  I mean if they made it so that all eight of them can die that would be boring.  Why don't they like have different bad things happen.  for instance, what if the bad thing that could happen to Tali were a lot of her people die because of you and she hates you for it.  Or your relation to Cerberus or cold, ruthless, renegade use of human forces makes ashley hate you and dump you. It is so boring to have identical bad things be able to happen to all your LIs.