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[Gerza71]

TIM

[Dave of Canada]

Liara is the biggest one since she's the only companion in both games that can't die.

[Count Viceroy]

The alliance.Possibly with Kaidan/Ashley at the helm. EIther cooperating, or being used as bait.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 29 septembre 2010 - 08:24 .

[frozngecko]

Ashley would never be the best pick to betray Shepard, because saying that would imply that Kaidan would be the best pick to betray Shepard too because one of them had to die in ME1.



I do like the betray idea, but I believe that EDI is more likely gonna do that, not because of her own will, but because of her programming. She is still programmed to perform certain actions unless the unshackling at the end of ME2 completely took out ALL of her preprogrammed behaviors too.

[sumof all fear]

Frankly I think it is going to be Cpt. Anderson. the mentor must die or turn evil, it just feels inevitable.



monstrous as it sounds I think it makes sense, you can feel him growing away from shep in ME2, and even questioning shep's actions with his tone and his "i wouldn't have told you if i knew" line certainty doesn't bode well. So I suspect that following reports of vesir's death Anderson will be pressured by the council to betray you.



Admiral Hackett on the other hand still seems to be on your side so theirs that to look forward to.

[lastpatriot]

You all are avoiding the one fact and the only person who is a real threat to Shepard: JOKER!



Think about it... he get's kicked from the Alliance and then hired by TIM to do what - fly a new "secret" Normandy?



He's a spy and you all know it!

[Mox Ruuga]

sumof all fear wrote...

Frankly I think it is going to be Cpt. Anderson. the mentor must die or turn evil, it just feels inevitable.

monstrous as it sounds I think it makes sense, you can feel him growing away from shep in ME2, and even questioning shep's actions with his tone and his "i wouldn't have told you if i knew" line certainty doesn't bode well. So I suspect that following reports of vesir's death Anderson will be pressured by the council to betray you.

Admiral Hackett on the other hand still seems to be on your side so theirs that to look forward to.

I'm thinking more like the Renegade Shepard may come into conflict with Anderson. Hackett has always been seemingly more tolerant of wet work, given the way he assigned Shep on the Darius case.

[JaegerBane]

sumof all fear wrote...

Frankly I think it is going to be Cpt. Anderson. the mentor must die or turn evil, it just feels inevitable.

monstrous as it sounds I think it makes sense, you can feel him growing away from shep in ME2, and even questioning shep's actions with his tone and his "i wouldn't have told you if i knew" line certainty doesn't bode well. So I suspect that following reports of vesir's death Anderson will be pressured by the council to betray you.

Admiral Hackett on the other hand still seems to be on your side so theirs that to look forward to.

Actually, all Anderson was doing there was following his conscience. He flatly explains directly after that line that he was concerned Shep was being manipulated by TIM and therefore had to be treated with suspicion as a matter of common sense.

Frankly the idea of Anderson 'turning evil' sounds utterly absurd. Throughout every appearence he's shown as someone who resolutely sticks by his ideals come hell or high water - the idea he'd do that all his life and then suddenly join the dark side sounds like bad Star Wars fan fiction.

[Atilius the Hun]

Wrex or even Grunt if a decision has to be made about the future existence of the Krogan.



Samara (if alive) if a decision is made that is self serving to humans at the expense of the rest of the galaxy. It would have to be a 'dishonorable' choice. I could see that happening.



Zaeed is an obvious possibility.

[Killjoy Cutter]

I'm not at all convinced that betrayal is going to be a big thing in ME3.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Optimystic_X wrote...

There's heavy foreshadowing that you'll have betrayal to deal with. Garrus' loyalty mission:

"What would you do if someone betrayed you?"
"I don't know Garrus. But I wouldn't let it change me."
"Before it happened to me, I would've agreed with you."

Meh.  Only if you subscribe to Chekov's Rediculous Gun.

To me, that's just a conversation between two characters.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Major Truth wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

They might even be Corsairs now. I honestly think that Ash/Kaiden are going to be coming after Shep and that they will be caught between their emotions (friendship/love) and their duty.

This is an interesting point. At tthe time I was wondering why Jacob mentioned the Corsairs. Bioware don't usually drop pieces of info like that into conversations without a reason

I thought it was linking to his past as the protagonist of the ME: Galaxy game for the iWhatever.

[JaegerBane]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

There's heavy foreshadowing that you'll have betrayal to deal with. Garrus' loyalty mission:

"What would you do if someone betrayed you?"
"I don't know Garrus. But I wouldn't let it change me."
"Before it happened to me, I would've agreed with you."

Meh.  Only if you subscribe to Chekov's Rediculous Gun.

To me, that's just a conversation between two characters.

Agreed. There are Chekov's guns all over ME, of course - the massive rift in that planet caused by a giant mass accelerator impact, the weird circuitry mixed with tissue you see in the vision - but I can't see anything in the conversation that really foreshadows betrayal.

I mean, that entire mission is all about the response to betrayal. It's hardly surprising the subject comes up in conversation. I mean, by that logic Jacob's mission foreshadowed that my Shep's long-lost father actually may go nuts and decides to run his own tropical harem of abused women. There's a point when you have to tell the difference between omens and actual warning signs.

[kraidy1117]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Personally, I hope that the writers do not utilise such a tired and cliched plot device. We've already got a fleet of genocidal AI dreadnoughts to deal with, and to tack on a betrayal by Ashley/Kaidan/Liara/Anderson/Udina/Conrad/Urz would feel a little forced. We've already got several hypothetical villains to deal with in ME3, such as TIM, Admiral Xen, Mr. Lawson and obviously Harbinger. To also incorporate a betrayal on part of one of Shepard's allies would feel a little contrived.

This, if anything TIM will betray any Shepards who didn't cut ties, that's it.

[Dave of Canada]

kraidy1117 wrote...

This, if anything TIM will betray any Shepards who didn't cut ties, that's it.

Renegades need to be punished more.

[kraidy1117]

Dave of Canada wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

This, if anything TIM will betray any Shepards who didn't cut ties, that's it.

Renegades need to be punished more.

I have a Paragon who stayed with TIM

[Selenora]

Bioware.............coz they gonna ask you to sacrifice planet earth in order to save the rest of the universe

Actuallly im gonna shut up now...dont want to give them weird ideas

[mopotter]

AdamNW wrote...

Your picks are awful.

Most likely: Jack, Samara (in Renegade)
Least likely: Garrus, Tali (in Paragon)

A member of the crew/squad would only work if BW totally ignore everyones choices in ME2, that would be wrong and I don't see BW doing something like this.

Any traitor would need to be someone who was not involved in the suicide mission and they would have to be indoctrinated, or someone who doesn't believe in the reapers and thinks they are saving the universe by stopping someone they think is delusional.  

All of the ME1 LI know the reapers are coming.  Anderson - if even a little of the reaper material passes on to him while he is working on Gryason's remains, it would be possible.  I'd be rather sad about it, but it would fit.

[mopotter]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I'm not at all convinced that betrayal is going to be a big thing in ME3.

Me either, but it's an interesting idea.

[Giygas12]

I think it will be interesting if they decide to have a betrayal storyline play out. Most likely IMO it would be Garrus since he is in Shepard's shadow and has no way of developing his true leadership potential. The Shadow Broker's dossier on Garrus also claims the same thing so, it would make sense that Garrus would want to leave Shepard to try and make his own team again.



I would also think Miranda depending on your status with her would betray you. I stayed with Liara, picked Jack over her, and disobeyed the Illusive man's wishes in the end run. Needless to say she has a reason to be quite spiteful towards me. So she could be a good choice for a betrayal.



Least likely I would say Legion and Grunt. Legion is toooo obvious for a betrayal being a geth and since he wants to better his people I find it unlikely he would betray Shepard. Grunt is obvious that he wouldn't betray Shepard because Grunt gets enjoyment out of fighting Shepard's enemies both weak and strong

[HazelrahFiver]

AdamNW wrote...

Your picks are awful.

Most likely: Jack, Samara (in Renegade)
Least likely: Garrus, Tali (in Paragon)

Why in the world would Jack betray you if you are a Renegade character?  I suppose I can understand if you go to all the trouble to 'help' her and end up with her as your LI... but even then...  She is the most renegade person in the universe aside from Shepard if you make all Renegade decisions lol.  Hell, she wants to steal the Normandy in order to live like a pirate queen.

Your other choices I agree with.

What's most intriguing is that nearly every character could 'betray' you on some level based on your decisions.  This almost negates the concept entirely, but we'll see.

[Cra5y Pineapple]

I don't think TIM will betray you. It's just too obvious. It's also following the bidding of over 9000 fan fictions which I never plan on playing.

Am I the only one who kinda sympathises him? Yes, his motives are crazy and I don't trust him but come on. He's just trying to make up for all the bad things he did by helping to stop the Reapers. He probably has lung cancer too. Give him a break.

Modifié par Cra5y Pineapple, 29 septembre 2010 - 10:12 .

[frozngecko]

Everyone keeps overlooking EDI!!!! she can be a traitor because we don't know if her programming to spy on Shepard is still active!!!!!

[Aztag09]

Major Truth wrote...

As Mass effect is a trilogy and an epic one at that, I would be surprised if their isn't a betrayel or two along the way. Just wondering who everyone thinks are the characters that are most likey to betray shephard and the characters they most definitely do not want to see betray Shephard

For me:

Most Likely:

* Liara - For me something just isn't right with her. From historian to information dealer their seems to be a huge change in her character from ME1 to ME2. Also the fact that she is a "pure blood" leaves the door open for an Ardat - Yakshi storyline

* Ashley - She's so pro Alliance I could see her feeling duty bound to follow orders regardless of the impact to Shephard. Not exactly a betrayal but a clash non the less

* Jack/Miranda - Dependent on the decisions you made in ME2 I could see one of these two becoming bitter and seeking revenge on Shephard


Least Likely:

* Wrex/Grunt - Logically because they are Krogan these two would be the first you would expect to turn their back on Shephard if it suited them, but thats exactly why I don't think it would happen, its just too obvious

* Tali: "Why Tali, Why" - I have to admit I would be gutted if Tali turned on Shephard. A LI for some and a geeky little sister to others Tali has been a constant in the Mass Effect series, and by far the most loyal squadmate to Shephard. 

My own pick:

* Garrus - I've said it on here before, Shephard and Garrus are very similar, only Shephard is a more successful Garrus. I just think that Garrus could grow to become resentful and jealous of Shephard for enough for him to turn on him  

To be honest, most likely for me would be Zaeed, seeing that he's a mercenary, and dealing with the Collectors was just another job. Wouldn't be surprised if TIM put a bounty on Shepard's head and had Zaeed hunting him or try to turn him in.