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#126
Seifz

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I tried to purchase this DLC item today, but I didn't have any BioWare Points on my account. So, I went to purchase some BioWare Points. Unfortunately, there isn't an option to purchase the number of points that I need for this content. Indeed, the smallest package is 400 points, 160 points more than I need.



I've said all along that I would stop purchasing DLC from BioWare as soon as they started making me buy extra, wasted points. Now that it's happened, I'm done. :(

#127
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I dislike how no matter what I'm doing, Leliana and Morrigan will randomly blurt out something like "A fine gift!" or "Wow! Thank you so much!".. It's happened in combat.

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Yep, that's a bug. I would suggest not bringing them with you.

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Wow...I haven't read everything here (seeing there is 6 page worth), but I have to say that some people can be really mean to each other. Is calling each other "idiot" and implying stupidity really necessary? Stating an opinion is one thing, imposing it on others is quite another. On a side note: I have to admit I'm not sure about purchasing this DLC. I actually liked Warden's Keep and Return to Ostagar, and have played through both multiple times. For those who feel cheated out of their seven dollars, consider that the DLC's, like the rest of the game, have at least some re-playability. I brought Oghren with me the last time I played Warden's Keep and was almost floored when he farted in front of the mage (forget his name). I think sometimes people don't really explore the DLC's enough. One play through is not enough. Go through Return to Ostagar with Alistair and Wynne, and then again with (secret character...don't want to spoil it...bah) and Wynne and you'll get a relatively new experience. Frankly, if you don't like the Voice acting and story of the game or only like it a little bit, than yeah, these DLC's are not for you. Just keep in mind everyone gets something a little different out of these purchases. It's not "Horse Armor"...unless you make it "Horse Armor." Haha



STOP BEING MEAN OR I'LL RIP OUT YOUR EYES AND ****** IN YOUR SKULLS!!! ARGH!

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Arkagiel wrote...

Wow...I haven't read everything here (seeing there is 6 page worth), but I have to say that some people can be really mean to each other. Is calling each other "idiot" and implying stupidity really necessary? Stating an opinion is one thing, imposing it on others is quite another. On a side note: I have to admit I'm not sure about purchasing this DLC. I actually liked Warden's Keep and Return to Ostagar, and have played through both multiple times. For those who feel cheated out of their seven dollars, consider that the DLC's, like the rest of the game, have at least some re-playability. I brought Oghren with me the last time I played Warden's Keep and was almost floored when he farted in front of the mage (forget his name). I think sometimes people don't really explore the DLC's enough. One play through is not enough. Go through Return to Ostagar with Alistair and Wynne, and then again with (secret character...don't want to spoil it...bah) and Wynne and you'll get a relatively new experience. Frankly, if you don't like the Voice acting and story of the game or only like it a little bit, than yeah, these DLC's are not for you. Just keep in mind everyone gets something a little different out of these purchases. It's not "Horse Armor"...unless you make it "Horse Armor." Haha

STOP BEING MEAN OR I'LL RIP OUT YOUR EYES AND ****** IN YOUR SKULLS!!! ARGH!


How idiotic. If this isn't horse armor 2.0 then I don't know what is. Even calling it horse armor 2.0 is a huge stretch considering that the DLC is just as bugged as all the other DLC. At least the horse armor worked.

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Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 06 avril 2010 - 03:58 .


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Arkagiel

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See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You have your opinion, and while I don't agree with it, I'm not going to call it idiotic. I've downloaded all of the DLC except the newest one, and the only bugs I come across are minor ones that in no way ruin the game for me. Maybe your computer/system is screwed up, I don't know, but don't assume everyone is having the same problems as you.



I don't play PC games. I'm playing this game on the Xbox 360. I've logged a couple of hundred hours into this game and I'm still interested in replaying it. I've played through Awakening twice, and while yes there are a couple of glitches that are a little annoying, it does not take away from the story and overall feel of the game. Frankly the only main problems I'm annoyed with is the Sentinel Armor and Vigilance sword. Other than that, I have yet to come across any other major glitches. I'm not going to start screaming at Bioware and tell them they screwed up because I still enjoy the game. Especially because I love the world and the various connections with the books. New's Flash: Nothing is ever EVER perfect. Don't expect it to be because you are going to be sorely disappointed.

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Don't change the subject by calling that protester on his civility. The point he makes is valid. By buying garbage DLC, you are hurting yourself, him, and every single DAO fan.

Why? Because if Bioware can make garbage DLC and get $5, then why the heck would they bother making WK or RtO to get the same $5? I know if I'm Bioware and EA is breathing down my neck, and I see ppl buy my Feastday garbage, hell I'll keep making garbage just so EA would get off my back.

You say "But I like the gifts DLC". Yeah? Which do you like better, RtO or Feastday DLC, for the same money? You want to get no more RtO, keep buying Feastdays.

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Yes, it is a valid point. However, just as I would not take the opinion of someone seriously in real life if they started insulting me, I take his with a grain of salt too.

As far as the point itself is concerned you *may* be right. That could turn out to be the case. Or it could be that no one buys their next few small DLCs for various reasons. If enough consumers felt that way, BioWare would be forced to change their business model again. They have to adapt to current trends. It is not as if they must stick to a certain design and pricing scheme forever.

Also, we do not even know how well Feastday is selling. For all we know it could be doing poorly and convince BioWare *not* to go in your hypothesized direction. The counterargument makes sense from one perspective, but is mostly speculative in the absence of real facts we are not privy to.

Modifié par Seagloom, 06 avril 2010 - 12:25 .


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I'm pretty sure that they do see a steady decline in the DLC business, or at least I hope so. This is getting rather silly, in my personal opinion. Charging for content - as in "stuff"? Really? No thank you.

The only DLC I own is WK. It was an impulse buy, and yes, I felt deceived. It was hyped as though the PC could use the keep as a base, even by that sales-person in-game. True enough, it might have said somewhere in the finest of fine prints that the keep would only be accessible once, but I trusted Bioware. Never again. It was a good call, imo, seeing the recent PR disaster, also involving "fine print" and deception.

Well, lesson learned. I've not bought any other DLC, and I don't even feel any urge to do that. From what I've seen and heard, they are quite sub-par and don't measure up to my expectations. Yes, my personal expectations, hence, they won't see my personal money.

The DLC is sub-par (imo) because they mess with character and NPCs and their development in game. It also messes with the way they were written in the original game. A great game. I would buy that one again, no remorse here, not even a single drop.

I am tired of reading "but it's only the price of a cup of coffee/beer/whathaveyou, but so far it all adds up to $ 17 (or $ 15 if the customer was lucky enough to have left-over points). It'll keep adding up, and that is what being "nickeled and dimed to death" means. You could easily end up paying the same for terribly made DLC as you paid for the original game. Yet, the customer will still think "it's only a cup of....."

This is, of course, my personal opinion on this newest milking scheme. I refuse to be seen as a cash cow. I neither look, nor smell, nor sound like a cow, therefore I will refuse to be treated as such. Others feel differently. I don't begrudge anyone their opinions and feelings. Those are mine, YMMV

#135
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Mlai00 wrote...
Don't change the subject by calling that protester on his civility.

Arkagiel isn't changing the subject, but posted on courtesy from the get-go.  And rightly so, in my opinion, since politeness is a prerequisite for useful discussion.  If we don't get that out of the way, then we can't really address the DLC topic at all.

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You say "But I like the gifts DLC". Yeah? Which do you like better, RtO or Feastday DLC, for the same money? You want to get no more RtO, keep buying Feastdays.

Firstly, they didn't cost the same money. 

Secondly, I liked different things about the two DLCs.  One thing about Feastdays that was certainly preferable was the way it came as a surprise, vs. the numerous delays in releasing RtO.  If we like that, shouldn't we tell Bioware?

Thirdly, the time and money cost of developing Feastday would have been much lower than RtO.  By releasing Feastday, Bioware did not deprive us of another RtO.  Had Feastday been cancelled early in development, it would not have regained the resources to develop another RtO DLC instead.  We just wouldn't have gotten Feastday.

Ultimately, you are not comparing like with like, and that is why I believe your argument is flawed.  (It's as if you're claiming I can't like little cheese-and-tomato pastry squares I can whip up in ten minutes because it's already established that I like fruit cakes it takes me a day to make.)  Not everyone believes it has to come down to a choice - only RtO or Feastday type DLC - particularly when Bioware has *said* there will be small and large DLC.  Why can't we have both?

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Sabriana wrote...

I am tired of reading "but it's only the price of a cup of coffee/beer/whathaveyou, but so far it all adds up to $ 17 (or $ 15 if the customer was lucky enough to have left-over points). It'll keep adding up, and that is what being "nickeled and dimed to death" means. You could easily end up paying the same for terribly made DLC as you paid for the original game. Yet, the customer will still think "it's only a cup of....."


Exactly why i refuse to buy anything but expansion sized addons (and i hope my Awakening registration gives more validity to that statement). With Fallout 3's DLCs i ended up paying twice the price of the game, however with the amount of new content in them i don't feel ripped off. What i've seen from BioWare's DLCs, it is not worth the risk to try them. Bring Down the Sky for Mass Effect was good, but unfortunately it seems to also have been the highest point so far.

BioWare's games are still on my "things to buy ASAP" list, BioWare's DLCs however are on my "things that exist but i pretend they don't" list ;)

The fate of BioWare's expasions hinges on my opinion of Awakening, as soon as i have time to finish it. What i've seen from it, it's looking good though.

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Gunny5821 wrote...

marbatico wrote...

i dont see al the negative talk about patch 1.03, i have it and the game works fine on my pc


Same here.  PC and NO problems with 1.03.  Matter a fact, if you don't have 1.03 installed, you won't be able to play Awakening.  So I guess all of you that don't have 1.03 installed are also NOT playing the Awakening Expansion.  Shame really as Awakening is actually good fun and enjoyed 40+ hours of game play.  Yeah I'm the type that checks out every square inch and takes my time to fully enjoy the game as it should be!

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That's right Gunny, I have NOT bought Awakening, nor do I plan on buying it, UNTIL Bioware addresses the issues introduced with the 1.03 patch. Yes, I want to experience all that Awakening has to offer, but NOT if it requires me to shoot my Origins game in the foot (as well as the behind Image IPB).

This Festday DLC is all about having a few laughs with your companions and I think that's great. It's another way to immerse yourself in the awesome game experience, with a few laughs with your faithful companions. Kudos to Bioware for that. No, you are not required to buy it, you can still enjoy Origins without it. The only thing that makes me grumpy about this DLC is that it REQUIRES patch 1.03 to run... it REQUIRES a busted patch to run.  So no, I will not be running this DLC until a patch addressing and hopefully fixing the issues introduced in 1.03 is released (and hopefully no new issues are introduced). And I am hoping that any future DLC will either require patch 1.02a at the latest or by the time a new DLC is released, patch 1.04 (or whatever it takes finally address all the major issues) is a requirement... and NOT the busted 1.03.

Here's hoping to a working patch that addresses the existing issues and not introduces other issues coming out soon.