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[Andorfiend]

Ok, I have to hand it to Blizzard with this one, they are really ahead of the curve.

When is Bioware going to offer us a service as useful as this? 

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Bioware wins.

[wolfsite]

Ya the vast majority of people in online games are complete idiots. I can barely tolerate them in game why would I want to meet them in person.



Though it would be funny if you are a guy and you find this one really nice female, only to later find out he is a guy.... unless you are gay of course, then have fun.

[Mitchmcn]

Seriously? How can you even make this kind of comparison??



As above: Bioware > Blizzard

[Mitchmcn]

lawl just clicked the link, thats kind of pathetic.

[andnico]

Bioware is so, so far ahead of Blizzard in terms of making games that emotionally involve the player. Blizzard to me is a sort of an all-flash no substance type developer. They can polish and refine and perfectly present their products, but after you play them for a bit you realize there's little more at stake than how fast you can right-click (Diablo) or how obsessively-compulsively you can micromanage and tweak minutia (WoW) with no real plot to back any of that up. Their RTS's are stronger titles to be sure, but in the realm of RPG's, honestly, at least on the basis of narrative it degrades the term RPG to refer to any of Blizzard's offerings in that field as such. That is, in comparison to Bioware, who offers so much more in their games.

[thewrm]

Bioware wins everytime hands down.

[Mitchmcn]

Come to think of it, this is a poor question to ask on a Bioware site lol

[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

Mitchmcn wrote...

Come to think of it, this is a poor question to ask on a Bioware site lol

Ask anywhere neutral like IGN or GameFAQs, and I guarantee that the answer will be Bioware.
As another poster said, Blizzard is all flash, no substance. 

[Maria Caliban]

VOTE FOR BIOWARE!

[WilliamShatner]

BioWare would win simply because they have several games that are among my favourite of all time.  Blizzard doesn't have any.

But...

You have to admire the way Blizzard work.  They've taken 12 years to put out a sequel to their most popular game.  You can't accuse them of rushing out products to cash in.  You'd never see them putting out an unfinished game (ME2) or a lacklustre expansion (Awakenings). 

[rabbitchannel]

I tried the service. It's fake. lol. Blizzard must be poking fun at their fans.



Maybe you guys should actually click on the link and check it out before getting all serious and posting presumptuous comments.

[Meglivorn]

Some people doesn't realize it (was) April 1. And Blizzard usually goes wacky that day Full of sillyness

[andnico]

WilliamShatner wrote...

BioWare would win simply because they have several games that are among my favourite of all time.  Blizzard doesn't have any.

But...

You have to admire the way Blizzard work.  They've taken 12 years to put out a sequel to their most popular game.  You can't accuse them of rushing out products to cash in.  You'd never see them putting out an unfinished game (ME2) or a lacklustre expansion (Awakenings). 

Certainly the polish everything they ever make to the ultimate sort of luster. That IS without a doubt blizzard's stock and trade. But it's still ultimately soulless, without character, and their RPG's (using that term LOOSELY) offer absolutely nothing in terms of narrative to ever keep you on board. While I for one think the assertions that ME2 is "unfinished" or that Awakenings is "lacklustre" are somewhat unfounded I would still prefer a slightly pock-mocked Bioware experience with all of its narrative depth, well-rounded characters, and well-written storylines than the most polished yet ultimately shallow experience a blizzard "rpg" offers.

That's just me though.

Modifié par andnico, 01 avril 2010 - 10:41 .

[TheSeventhJedi]

  I know a guy who met his wife on WoW, and although she is 23 years his senior (she REALLY doesn't look her age,) she's decently cool.  Of course, who would you rather meet, someone who plays WoW, or someone who plays ME?  I have high hopes for BW being able to make the MMO playable and fun instead of the second job some of the elitist idiots make WoW, but we can't decide until we play it.

Also:  social.bioware.com/brc/683119

[Andorfiend]

Meglivorn wrote...

Some people doesn't realize it (was) April 1. And Blizzard usually goes wacky that day Full of sillyness

THANK you. Sheesh.

[thegreateski]

I see what you did there Mr. OP

Personally for April fools I called up my mother and told her I had finally found a job. She was so happy . . . and then of course the inevitable followed.



We're not on speaking terms now.

Modifié par thegreateski, 01 avril 2010 - 11:08 .

[WilliamShatner]

andnico wrote...

WilliamShatner wrote...

BioWare would win simply because they have several games that are among my favourite of all time.  Blizzard doesn't have any.

But...

You have to admire the way Blizzard work.  They've taken 12 years to put out a sequel to their most popular game.  You can't accuse them of rushing out products to cash in.  You'd never see them putting out an unfinished game (ME2) or a lacklustre expansion (Awakenings). 

Certainly the polish everything they ever make to the ultimate sort of luster. That IS without a doubt blizzard's stock and trade. But it's still ultimately soulless, without character, and their RPG's (using that term LOOSELY) offer absolutely nothing in terms of narrative to ever keep you on board. While I for one think the assertions that ME2 is "unfinished" or that Awakenings is "lacklustre" are somewhat unfounded I would still prefer a slightly pock-mocked Bioware experience with all of its narrative depth, well-rounded characters, and well-written storylines than the most polished yet ultimately shallow experience a blizzard "rpg" offers.

That's just me though.

Apples and oranges.

I prefer Blizzards RTSs but the narrow minded elitism regarding what makes an "RPG" tires me.  Some RPGs concentrate on story and characters, some focused on action and loot, some mix up them.  Live and let live.  Neither is less valid than the other nor are the fans of the games, and Blizzard give their fans what they want they . 

As someone who is a fan of BioWare's (general) emphasis on story and character I have been disappointed by their past two efforts.  The sheity in games from a company that espouses the virtue of storytelling is
unbelievable.  ME2 was clearly unfinished as evidenced by the DLC they have attached to the game post release.  It was given a release date and the making of the
game was moulded to make that date.  Blizzard wouldn't put up with any
of that nonsense. 

Awakenings in terms of an expansion doesn't come close to the WoW expansions (and I'm not even a fan of WoW).  The WoW expansions are of the same quality as the original game, just smaller.  Awakenings is not just a smaller version of DA:O, but the quality severely declined and several of the best elements of DA:O have been gutted or completely removed.  Apparently to cut costs and deliver the game on time.  Again something Blizzard would not do.

[sonofalich]

ahahaha typical blizzard humor.

[Urazz]

Blizzard makes good games that are quite fun to play repeatedly and they do have good stories and they have great multiplayer. Blizzard is also better at patching their games to work better



Bioware also makes good games that are quite fun to play repeatedly but they have better stories than Blizzard's games but they lack in the multiplayer department (they really don't have any).



Essentially, I tie both companies in making fun games that are fun to play repeatedly but Blizzard wins at the better multiplayer aspects to their game and patching service to fix problems/balance more often. Bioware makes greater stories and would probably do decently at multiplayer if they actually really did it.

[Envor44]

Both are good, but Bioware always win in my books.

[Phaelducan]

I think it's fair to say that both companies are in the elite class of game devs. There is a reason why both companies have a slew of awards and a gigantic, loyal fan base.

In a point for point comparison, keep in mind that Blizzard focuses on, balances for, and optimizes the multiplayer experience over the single player.

However, I also think it's fair to say that saying they don't write compelling stories at Blizzard is inaccurate. Warcraft, Starcraft, and Diablo all have a very rich mythos attached to them and are well-written.

Bioware, on the other hand, writes some of the best storylines in the business, but hasn't pushed for very strong multiplayer gameplay.

All of the people I know who play PC or console games have logged hundreds of hours on products from both companies.

What we have yet to see is how well Bioware will do jumping into a new genre of product, but their track record is stellar, as is Blizzard's. I have no doubt that both companies will continue to dominate sales and generate critical acclaim.

[Cowboy_christo]

Quality, bioware wins hand down. But blizzard's game manage to hook you up so much that it's scary.

[wolfsite]

Meglivorn wrote...

Some people doesn't realize it (was) April 1. And Blizzard usually goes wacky that day Full of sillyness

Ya I forgot about that when I looked at it, though I admoit I only glanced at it for a moment.  Need to stay away from the Internet on april 1st.