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[Kurupt87]

Blizz is awesome at april fools, two more from this year:

http://www.wow-europ...mentpotency.xml
http://eu.blizzard.c...ml?id=221003857

Modifié par Kurupt87, 02 avril 2010 - 01:15 .

[Andorfiend]

Cowboy_christo wrote...

Quality, bioware wins hand down. But blizzard's game manage to hook you up so much that it's scary.

Okay, I started this as a joke thread, but really? You go to Bioware for quality? Blizzard simply will not release a game until it is as polished as they can possibly make it. Sure they sometimes miss a few things, but it is utterly impossible for a PC developer to anticipate every possible hardward/software combination out their in kitbash land. And they patch those flaws as fast as they possibly can.

Bioware makes great games, but not nearly as polished and bug free as Blizzard stuff. Your experience may vary, but that seem to be the concensus.

But yeah Blizzard games are addictive. I will never be more than mediocre at best at RTS games so a lot of their core games are kind of lost of me but I love co-op play and Diablo and even (don't hurt me) WoW.

The most addictive Bioware game to date (for me) is ME 1. I do love that game, but I'm not sure it would be my 'desert island' game. Not sure a Blizzard game would be either... Hmmm...

Modifié par Andorfiend, 02 avril 2010 - 01:21 .

[Agamemnon2589]

I love how you guys are getting all worked up over this. It was a joke. XD

[StowyMcStowstow]

I voted for Blizzard already. At least they take their time and put out quality products 100% of the time.



As of late, Bioware has done the opposite.

[sammcl]

So many people replied without even looking at the link. Blizzard is great on april fools day, they usually have at least one joke that is completely believable except for some veiled puns or something. The EPEEN one this year was fantastic, apart from the very first line about gear being the most important thing, I mighta been fooled by that on a first read through. Dunno if i would have picked up on the EPEEN enhancement line had i not known it was a joke from the get go.

[Chaoswind]

Blizzard is the king Midas of computer gaming, everything they do GLOWS...



This is a Bioware forum, and I am going to be attacked, but Blizzard wins hands down.



Bioware is excellent doing single player games, and the plot and history are quite good... but that is all.



Game mechanics: Blizzard wins

Game Balancing: Blizzard wins

Addiction level: Millions of people acknowledge the fact that Blizzard OWNS their souls, so there is NO way another company can reach that level.



Blizzard is the only company that can say **** YOU to fans and fans would just beg for a little more... why? because Blizzard doesn't make ****, they work SUPER hard to never release a bugged game, they work extra hard, to keep the play field fun and balanced, and they work extra hard to provide a challenge, and they never insult fans with a failed product, If Blizzard thinks the game is going to suck, then don't ever expect the game to hit the stores... even if said game was at 80% of development.



Finally, I confess that Blizzard took my soul with Starcraft and it took years (a decade actually) for me to finally get it back... the only reason I refuse to play another game made by Blizzard is because I am well aware, that may soul would be lost again.



You can say all you want about Blizzard, but facts are facts, and millions of addicts agree with me... just look at south Korea... a country is owned by Blizzard... no other video game company can openly say that.

[Kalfear]

Andorfiend wrote...

Ok, I have to hand it to Blizzard with this one, they are really ahead of the curve.

When is Bioware going to offer us a service as useful as this? 

Didnt follow link as saw Battlenet in link title.
Battlenet means multiplayer which means Im not even remotely interested in it for Bioware games.

As for Bioware vrs twitchard, Bioware wins, any game, any comparrision, period.

Bioware makes RPG
Blizzard makes twitch games with a super weak and uninteresting story!

Two cant and shouldnt be compared.

If I want to play some MINDLESS hack and slash game, Ill play a Diablo game (which should NEVER be listed as a RPG btw).
If I want to Zerg rush someone, ill play Starcraft or Warcraft
If I want to play with 8-12 year olds, ill play World of Warcraft

I been hard on Bioware for Mas Effect 2 because I expect better from Bioware but ME2 is still heads and tails above ANYTHING Blizzard has ever released.

Blizzard for under 15 crowd (in age if not mentality), Bioware for a much older audience

[Cascadus]

Kalfear wrote...

Andorfiend wrote...

Ok, I have to hand it to Blizzard with this one, they are really ahead of the curve.

When is Bioware going to offer us a service as useful as this? 

Didnt follow link as saw Battlenet in link title.
Battlenet means multiplayer which means Im not even remotely interested in it for Bioware games.

As for Bioware vrs twitchard, Bioware wins, any game, any comparrision, period.

Bioware makes RPG
Blizzard makes twitch games with a super weak and uninteresting story!

Two cant and shouldnt be compared.

If I want to play some MINDLESS hack and slash game, Ill play a Diablo game (which should NEVER be listed as a RPG btw).
If I want to Zerg rush someone, ill play Starcraft or Warcraft
If I want to play with 8-12 year olds, ill play World of Warcraft

I been hard on Bioware for Mas Effect 2 because I expect better from Bioware but ME2 is still heads and tails above ANYTHING Blizzard has ever released.

Blizzard for under 15 crowd (in age if not mentality), Bioware for a much older audience

Yessir, I can see that you have never played a Blizzard game ever. I love how you can declare anything BioWare has made is superior using flimsy reasoning and the fact that if it has multiplayer, it's somehow uninteresting and the single-player somehow suffers.
As I recall, StarCraft has been repeatedly lauded for it's astonishingly well-written and well-done story.
Wait. This is a BioWare forum. I forgot, mindless brand loyalty and retarded line drawing when they're both quality companies that can't even be compared seeing as they don't even make games in the same genre. It's like trying to say Tetris is better than Street Fighter.

[yslee]

Both SC and WC had great stories, but Blizzard don't quite have the world-building and plot design chops as Bioware. The number of retcons done to the WC universe due to WoW...



Plus, I'm pretty sure both SC and WC are based on GW properties.

[Cascadus]

There's no denying that SC is heavily influenced by WH40K, but the similarities are mostly aesthetic. Philosophy-wise, the Terrans are more Confederate States of America than they are 'burn the heretic, kill the mutant, purge the unclean' and that's reflected in the Terran's characters and obvious parallels (such as the Terran Confederacy's flag having startling similarities with the CSAs). The Zerg are more biologically sane than the Tyranids and less over the top, shall we say, and for the life of me, I can't comprehend the Eldar comparisons. Eldar are essentially space elves in that they look almost entirely like humans. Protoss... less so.
And the less said about how WoW raped WC lore, the better.

Modifié par Cascadus, 02 avril 2010 - 05:05 .

[Chaoswind]

If you are going to say everything like that, Bioware might as well just close the game development office and just release books...

[NebulaY]

well..i have told a friend yesterday that blizzard e.g. would never have apologized for an error like the epic countdown. bioware apologizes even it wasnt totally their fault..there you can see where true interest in the fanbase lies.

regarding games you could compare it like a fast-food chain (blizzard) to a good restaurant (bioware). you get your belly full at both but the restaurant is just another experience ^^



so i guess bioware wins

[Cascadus]

NebulaY wrote...

well..i have told a friend yesterday that blizzard e.g. would never have apologized for an error like the epic countdown. bioware apologizes even it wasnt totally their fault..there you can see where true interest in the fanbase lies.
regarding games you could compare it like a fast-food chain (blizzard) to a good restaurant (bioware). you get your belly full at both but the restaurant is just another experience ^^

Well your friend needs to learn about the word 'conjecture'. Either that, or ask him about his magical abilities to predict alternate universes where things like this would of happen. And people actually need to play Blizzard games before they go 'IT'S ALL FLASH' without realizing how incredibly deep the entire pro-gaming scene for SC1
has gotten, all the tricks people have learned and how the game itself changed the very landscape of RTS games.

Likewise for Diablo, which revolutionized the 'loot-fest' with it's entirely new at the time dungeon randomizer, where you could end up fighting enemies you'd never even seen before. WC, of course, introduced Battle.net, which again, was revolutionary for being among the first easy to use online multiplayer components in the world (back when it was all a rather convoluted business). And do I need to mention WoW? Like or it or not, it's one of the most significant and THE most successful game on the planet.

Blizzard is a five-star restaurant infamous for it's long wait times but incredibly popular because when they serve their food, it turns out brilliant. BioWare is a five-star restaurant that aims to out-class any other food out there but ambition fails them to parade out a fantastic, but albeit not perfect meal.
People who try accusing Blizzard's games of having no depth have never seen a StarCraft, or WarCraft III match for that matter.

Modifié par Cascadus, 02 avril 2010 - 05:23 .

[Chaoswind]

NebulaY wrote...

well..i have told a friend yesterday that blizzard e.g. would never have apologized for an error like the epic countdown. bioware apologizes even it wasnt totally their fault..there you can see where true interest in the fanbase lies.
regarding games you could compare it like a fast-food chain (blizzard) to a good restaurant (bioware). you get your belly full at both but the restaurant is just another experience ^^

so i guess bioware wins

Blizzard wouldn't have made the countdown to start with... and if they did, they wouldn't apologize... they would BURN the person responsible.

You are comparing 2 different things:

Bioware makes single player games, plot driven, complex and fun games.

Blizzard makes awesomeness, Plot always shines (Not like Bioware, but of a game that is anything BUT focused in single player, most plots are extremely good), Multiplayer SHINES, Replay Value SHINES... **** I spent a DECADE playing Starcraft with my friends and in tournaments, I can't see myself playing Mass Effect for anything longer than 3 months... Just don't compare people... Bioware makes a VERY good experience to be enjoyed for a limited amount of time (VERY MUCH LIKE A BOOK OR NOVEL), Blizzard makes life styles.

[yslee]

Sorry, SC1 as pro-gaming is not a valid reason... it's there because it's there for a long time. As in, it's a consistent game to use. To cite it as the pinnacle of RTSes because of that is not a good reason.

For RTSes, Relic has done a lot more to the genre than Blizzard. Homeworld, Dawn of War and Company of Heroes. In fact CoH is so good I can't touch any other RTS now... including Dawn of War II.

Blizzard is hardly that great. Good, very good, but they tend to stick to the safe side of things (hence their reputation for polished games). Groundbreaking stuff? Not so much. Really great ground-breaking stuff? Not so much too.

PS. I have played Blizzard games. I still have my WoW subscription.

Modifié par yslee, 02 avril 2010 - 06:13 .

[NebulaY]

Cascadus wrote...

NebulaY wrote...

well..i have told a friend yesterday that blizzard e.g. would never have apologized for an error like the epic countdown. bioware apologizes even it wasnt totally their fault..there you can see where true interest in the fanbase lies.
regarding games you could compare it like a fast-food chain (blizzard) to a good restaurant (bioware). you get your belly full at both but the restaurant is just another experience ^^

Well your friend needs to learn about the word 'conjecture'. Either that, or ask him about his magical abilities to predict alternate universes where things like this would of happen.

And people actually need to play Blizzard games before they go 'IT'S ALL FLASH' without realizing how incredibly deep the entire pro-gaming scene for SC1 has gotten, all the tricks people have learned and how the game itself changed the very landscape of RTS games. Likewise for Diablo, which revolutionized the 'loot-fest' with it's entirely new at the time dungeon randomizer, where you could end up fighting enemies you'd never even seen before. WC, of course, introduced Battle.net, which again, was revolutionary for being among the first easy to use online multiplayer components in the world (back when it was all a rather convoluted business).

And do I need to mention WoW? Like or it or not, it's one of the most significant and THE most successful game on the planet.
Blizzard is a five-star restaurant infamous for it's long wait times but incredibly popular because when they serve their food, it turns out brilliant. BioWare is a five-star restaurant that aims to out-class any other food out there but ambition fails them to parade out a fantastic, but albeit not perfect meal.
People who try accusing Blizzard's games of having no depth have never seen a StarCraft, or WarCraft III match for that matter.

well i have seen some star craft matches and allready sc2 too knowing someone allready top 300 in the europe ladder there somehow (dont ask me about the exact ladder mechanics there, not interested) but even he sais that the first minutes he could play eyes closed because it ever the same clicks he makes and i for my part think repeating the stuff over and over again, be it sc or wow which i played myself for 3 years before realizing there is nothing new in there, is for me some fast-food-franchise experience, quick served, acceptable quality but at some point you get sick of it. i dont say that blizzard is bad..i like their games, some more some less.

bioware in comparison is just... its an experience tickling your skills, tactics, emotions, wits...it takes you into a totally other world like an interactive fantasy or sci fi novel. its not simple a restaurant, its a las vegas show with meal or so granted..it doesnt have as long a long-time-addiction-capability like most blizzard games but thats just because bioware games are carried by a story which you cant play over and over again without a pause.

i cant imagine playing DA:O or ME, kotor or BG2 alongside the tv or turning the sound off and listening to an audio-book...with wow i did that all the time

so i like both they are just pretty different developers..but having to choose i guess 20 years from now bioware games would just have more chance of beeing still left in my memories with distinct moments.

[falco117]

why did they have to make us decide! WHY! WAAAAAAA!



on a more serious note I'd pick bioware because they actually released games in the past few years

[Arelyte]

Bioware wins and always will.

[Massadonious1]

I don't see any BioWare games that have entire television channels devoted to them.



Just saying.

[RobUnreal]

In other news, Zynga is going to kick BioWare's ****... unless we unite!

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/13/index/2029949/1#2029999

We will beat Zynga.  Oh, yes we will

[differlot]

The thing is that Blizzard is making quality games, it's just that it takes forever for them to come out

Bioware is faster and personally i like the story more.

Blizzard is a bigger company and it seems like because it's associated with Wow it is not top notch. some people say its the graphics since it is certainly no aion, but thats just what i hear, but thats yo let more people play without difficulty.

Also Bioware is making Star wars the old republic so maybe that will take the world by storm since so many people love it

[xDarkicex]

Battlenets not that great, its been out for years though. Bioware doesn't need a battlenet because their games are single player.



Sorry Bioware fanboys but Diablo II CRUSHES ME2 as for Blizzards resent engagement with WOW NO comment Bioware wins by a land slide so in short,



Old Blizzard>Bioware

New Bioware>Blizzard

[Meglivorn]

*sigh* fanboys...

This Bliz joke WAS hilarious. As well as the EPEEN



Bioware makes great games. Blizzard makes great games. And I still can't understand why people can only like something against something else. I happen to be like bioware games (they make me play games again after almost a decade), and can hardly wait for the ME3 or the Old Republic. And happen to play WoW in a daily basis for 5 years and can hardly wait for Cataclysm.



This whole bioware vs. blizzard thing is just the same stupid **** as the infamous win vs linux or apple ws pc flames.

[OneBadAssMother]

Bioware is not only my favourite, but it got wifey into gaming. So Bioware wins for me. Really brought us closer together.



Both companies pay a lot of attention to detail, and focus on quality rather then quantity. Blizzard's story in old school Starcraft was great, I didn't really like the Warcraft series however. But none of their games have left me awestruck after finishing a game.



Still remember the Baldurs Gate series so many years ago, when I finished ToB for the first time, my character giving up the taint, to be with his dark queen Viconia... it was really moving. All games after that (cept for NWN), left me awestruck, watching the credits till end feeling complete nostalgia.



So Bioware wins hands down.