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[mjkjets]

http://xbox360.ign.c.../1081389p1.html

This guy really hits the nail on the head. He seems to be on the fence regarding ME2 DLC.

[The Tony Show]

Some of his points are very valid, but hasn't it been positively confirmed that the only Kasumi content on the disc is some empty files with her name on them totaling 300kb and a few lines of dialogue? If so, it's hardly fair to insinuate that the Stolen Memories DLC is an unlock like Sinclair Solutions or Beautiful Katamari.

[Koomazaz]

I fully and totally agree with everything he says.

[hex23]

I was mostly agreeing with him up until the Kasumi part. The Kasumi placeholder character and handful of audio files on the "ME2" disc wasn't worth mentioning and undermined the point he was trying to make.

[Shensi]

Good and IGN in the same sentence? What is this madness.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Yeah because let's not bother reading it before attacking it...



Anyway he makes very good points. DLC can be quite the PR disaster is done badly. Fans love new content that has been developed for their favourite games, but we don't like being ripped off with so-called DLC that is actually already on the disc.



Having said that, releasing sub-standard DLC such as what many have referred to the Firewalker pack as isn't a great idea either.

[Doright36]

I guess I just realize that game companies need to expand revenu so I am not that bothered.



I'd rather have them come out with things like costume packs, weapon packs ect for a few bucks here and there than have them raise the cost of the game initally. At least with the packs I can choose which extras I may or may not want to buy but if they jack the games up to 90 bucks I'll have to pay that regardless.



This way is a better option IMHO.

[Hoogies123]

Cool, I totally agree with this guy. Especially since the issue is starting to hit home with me as well.

[sammcl]

Shensi wrote...

Good and IGN in the same sentence? What is this madness.

I really like IGN, they've always seemed objective and honest to me. Anyway I don't get DLC unless it's actually something substantial. Charging consumers for alternate costumes is rediculous, it's completely cosmetic and adds nothing to the game. I guess some people are happy to pay for cosmetic changes like that, but I'll never understand why. Kasumi will depend on the price for me, if, as i think it will be, it's just gonna be identical to Zaeed content-wise (1 mission and a bunch of little lines when you look at her stuff) anything over $AU5 is asking too much. If it's a proper recruitment>normandy chats>loyalty>normandy chats kinda thing I might be more impressed. 

[cruc1al]

Shensi wrote...

Good and IGN in the same sentence? What is this madness.

He's a freelance writer.

[Syrellaris]

yeah I read it.

They make some valid points in there and some extra research nets you that the content for kasumi's stolen memory is actually present on the gamedisc for a much larger file then just 300 kb.



DLC scams for the win right?



I wonder though, its already known that Kasumi's stolen memory features a non interactable character so why buy it.

[StowyMcStowstow]

I swear if Kasumi is discovered to be on the disc and we are paying 7$ for a simple unlock code, then things will go badly for Bioware.

[OrbitalWings]

As I recall, the only Kasumi files on the disc are some of her dialogue in her room on the SR2, and from the Suicide Mission, along with her survival probabilites (eg. being a good tech choice)



This was probably just done to make her easier to integrate into the game - I'm sure that if the whole Stolen Memories DLC was on the disc, we would have found it by now.

[eriaa]

I agree with most of what he is saying. The MW2 DLC is just lame imo...I've never played a CoD game, and it's mostly because of Koticks greed.

While the free DLC is nice, I have not been super impressed with the DLC from either ME2 or DA:O. I still have yet to buy Awakenings, based on my opinions of the DLC that they have released so far, but I'm sure I will get around to it this summer.

As for the whole cutting out stuff from the game thing...it's very iffy to me. If a game is going to support DLC, they probably figure that out very early on in the games development, so it's a little naive to think they don't cut certain things out due to time, and put them out later as DLC.

[raz3r]

Good article, Infinity Ward failed, it's such a shame to see those things happening in 2010 when DLC are so important for players and community. I suppose they did not learn from Bethesda, Fallout 3's DLC were almost amazing. Let's hope Bioware will not do the same mistakes, right now they released some sort of DLCs wich weren't so good but at least they were free. The Kasumi one looks good but we community demand more. They know what we want because there are hundred of threads regarding DLCs. No excuses.

[Raniall]

Good article. I like how he ackowledged that DLC is the future of the industry. People don't like it, but people have got to get over it. It's coming, hell its practically here, and there isn't a damn thing we can really do to stop it.



As for content size, I really think we need to be careful of what we wish for because while people want bigger content updates, it also ends up meaning its gonna cost more money. We can't have our good DLC for free, or even sometimes cheap (depending on your definition), it simply isn't going to work like that.

[mattahraw]

I'm almost certain the only Kasumi data already on the disc is a placeholder and some audiofiles for missions that are already included (ie the suicide mission).



Much like Zaeed, the game is prepared to intergrate her content, but her actual loyalty mission was not complete when the game went gold and is not included on disc.



As far as I know.

[mattahraw]

I would really love to see a ME2 full expansion, much like Rockstar's GTA IV expansions. A good few hours of story and gameplay.

[raz3r]

Less DLC but bigger and "stronger", that's the way I have in mind, such like Rockstar and Bethesda

[Jackal904]

hex23 wrote...

I was mostly agreeing with him up until the Kasumi part. The Kasumi placeholder character and handful of audio files on the "ME2" disc wasn't worth mentioning and undermined the point he was trying to make.

Yup. Those bits of Kasumi on are on the disc for technical reasons, not because BioWare is trying to scam everyone.

[glacier1701]

A good article I thought and something that BioWare needs to look at. I dont mind DLC and paying for it provided it has content to it. For example the Alternate Look packs are not worth the cost. They should have been in the game from the start and indeed make BioWare look bad considering how easy it has been for PC modders to provide at least some variety to what we can wear. The Kasumi DLC is perhaps a touch steep at $7.00 for whats in it but provided it has depth then it at least has merit. Anyways lets hope the people at BioWare who need to read the article and benefit from it do actually read it.

[muhammed406]

Why does he say locked on the disc, none of the dlc out so far has the 114kb unlockcode

[Shallina]

They did it right with bring down the sky. So they know how to do it. After Bring down the sky I looked diffetrently at EA.



But For ME2, so far when you see the custom costum DLC, the few image improvement they managed to get was ruined in an instant.

[Paulsim]

Raniall wrote...

I like how he ackowledged that DLC is the future of the industry. People don't like it, but people have got to get over it. It's coming, hell its practically here, and there isn't a damn thing we can really do to stop it. 

Sure there is... don't buy it.

And someone please tell me what difference it makes if you are paying for content you download or paying for a code to unlock content. Who cares where it comes from. Ethier way you are paying for material you do do not have access to.

The final decision on where your money goes always lies with you. If you don't like it, don't buy it.