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[cxensign]

ilPianiste wrote...

Good point about the smaller (potential) audience. Still, I share the "gut feeling" that 7,-$ is a "premium" price point multiplied by 2 (= a rip-off).

Well to a large extent I consider it a psychology game.  In my mind, $5 is an impulse buy threshold for a minor DLC like this.  More than that and I start to examine my purchases.

There isn't a lot of direct evidence for this, since digitally distributed DLC is a new thing; I have a suspicion however that their total revenue capture would be fairly close at either a $5 and $7 price point.  There's a tendency to overprice games in this industry and a lot of money is left on the table as a result.

Has Bioware run any experiments with holding sales on Dragon Age DLC?  I suspect they could get some good data on how much volume they're leaving on the table at their price point fom that.


On a similar note I'm a bit surprised they haven't offered DLCs like the Blackstorm or Incisor for sale yet.  The Blackstorm in particular is a lot of fun, and definitely worth a couple bucks on its own.

[The Questioning Motive]

TheLostGenius wrote...

What really bothers me is that they didn't give her a recruitment mission. You "bump into her" on the Citadel. Would have been over two hours if she had a recruitment mission AND a loyalty mission. Seems half baked IMO.

>Kasumi's Stolen Memory, featuring a new squad member and associated set of missions,
as well as a new Achievement and the 'Locust' submachine gun. (April 6,
2010)

>associated set of missions.

Any more complaints?

@cxensign

They're releasing the incisor rifle over the Cerberus network. According to the ME wiki.

Modifié par The Questioning Motive, 03 avril 2010 - 08:24 .

[Ahalazar]

gmartin40 wrote...

I hate pirates. That's how ME2 was ruined before it came out. Remember when people were posting massive spoilers? I seriously hope that doesn't happen for ME3.

They are a part of the reality all devs must grasp.
ME2 was ruined before it came out? Where'd you get that?
Nope I really don't. The only ones that "spoiled" something were IGN and Gamespot.

And the pirate's motto is basically: Don't buy if you can't try.
You can't try DLC's can you?

Not an attempt to tell people not to buy DLCs, by all means do so, helps devs -> good for games.
 

[Iz Stoik zI]

gmartin40 wrote...

Of course you wouldn't. You're one of those people who would watch a burining building burn and say there is no fire.

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[TheLostGenius]

Iz Stoik zI wrote...

gmartin40 wrote...

Of course you wouldn't. You're one of those people who would watch a burining building burn and say there is no fire.

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

It's a plea to ignorance in the vain hope of "proving a point".

[Ahalazar]

TheLostGenius wrote...

It's a plea to ignorance in the vain hope of "proving a point".

I may be bad with english as it's not my native language but...
A plea to ignorance?

(If the " " were denoting sarcasm ignore what follows)
He doesn't have a point.

[DragonShepard138]

I think DLC is a cheap excuse to suck money outta people.

[Nightfish103]

Personally I see little point in the DLC. I already have way more party members than I can ever use and I like most of them so it's not like Kasumi was my one shot at having someone with me who isn't annoying. I expect something similar to Zaeed and while he's okay I wouldn't really miss him that much if he was gone. Definetly not enough to part with 7 of my hard earned bucks.

[Failmaster9000]

I honestly do not care that this DLC isnt free. I'll still pay for it to support BioWare.

[TheLostGenius]

It's a very good sign for a company when people want to buy their products out of a desire to "support them". I view Dragon Age as a $100 game, with Awakening paced out to charge an extra 40.

[Lulzatron]

As long as the content wasn't all on the disc, I'm fine with paying $7 for it. All I can say is that there better be a recruitment mission included and more dialogue (elements that would have made Zaeed's DLC better. But it was free, so I can't complain about that.)

[Bio construct]

a good a new dlc insanity here i come!!!

[Bogsnot1]

MaaZeus wrote...

Yes and no. If the mission is really good, then it might very well be worth. If not, and combine it with lack of proper dialog Zaeed style, then I lean towards ripoff. The quality of the mission remains to be seen, we have to wait until it is released. I plan on getting it on day-1 it is released anyway, and form my own opinion.

You sir, may have just hit upon the reason as to the cost.
Zaeed's dialogue was nothing more than voice snippets, easily recorded and included into the game. A full conversation, including interactions with NPC's and squaddies, would require more studio time, plus bringing back the voice cast if they hadn't recorded them initially, or if the script changed due to unforseen circumstances. Given the Jack/Miranda, Tali/Legion tensions, stands to reason there would be a Kasumi/Samara stand off as well.
If this is the case, I lend it my support, even without having seen it.
If its going to be just another Zaeed special, then I wont hold my breath.

[SVRG]

I think considering the time window it's releasing after the game itself that it probably isn't on the disc. Still, it seems that all companies assume they can charge $60 for a game, include "bonus" content packaged with the sole intent of preventing used game sales, and release DLC originally intended to be in the game itself (like Shale).

[TheLostGenius]

Lulzatron wrote...

As long as the content wasn't all on the disc, I'm fine with paying $7 for it. All I can say is that there better be a recruitment mission included and more dialogue (elements that would have made Zaeed's DLC better. But it was free, so I can't complain about that.)

There's not recruitment mission, she auto-joins. All you really get is a new submachine gun and a Loyalty Mission (and a special ability). I actually think its pretty light, and I doubt it will be as good as the Zaheed DLC character.

[trigger2kill1]

The Questioning Motive wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

What really bothers me is that they didn't give her a recruitment mission. You "bump into her" on the Citadel. Would have been over two hours if she had a recruitment mission AND a loyalty mission. Seems half baked IMO.

>Kasumi's Stolen Memory, featuring a new squad member and associated set of missions,
as well as a new Achievement and the 'Locust' submachine gun. (April 6,
2010)

>associated set of missions.

Any more complaints?

@cxensign

They're releasing the incisor rifle over the Cerberus network. According to the ME wiki.

Where are you getting your information? Or am I just not reading what they have on the site correctly?
http://masseffect.bi...e.com/info/dlc/

Cerberus has procured the service of Kasumi Goto, the galaxy's most enigmatic master thief. In return for her help, Kasumi has asked Shepard's help on a dangerous heist to infiltrate the vault of a deadly master criminal named Donovan Hock. Gain Kasumi's loyalty on the planet Bekenstein, where Hock is throwing a party for some of the galaxy's richest and most deranged criminal minds to recover data of great importance to Kasumi... and to the galaxy at large. Includes a new squad member, mission, weapon, research upgrade, casual outfit, and achievement.
That is copy / paste from the dlc site. Mission, set of missions, uhh...ruts rup raggy? I see nowhere that says "set of missions". Are you getting this from another site? If so what is the link? Please provide proof of your claims. Or are you misreading it yourself?

[GringoN7]

I do find on disc DLC to be unworthy of my time and money. One of the reasons why I sold my Boshock 2 copy, after seeing how 2K handled their first piece of DLC for that game.



If by any chance Stolen Memories is on the disc full or half I’ll be very disappointed, but then again lets look at how many hours is ME2 40+? I’ll buy whatever DLC they put out since they delivered extremely well on a 60 (70? for limited edition) purchase unlike Bio2 which took me 10 or maybe less hours to complete and the multiplayer felt extremely tacked on. I know they are different game, but the fact that included multiplayer means you can add an infinity amount of hours into the game.



I’ll buy whatever Bioware puts out for ME2. I have already bought the costume pack and I’m praying to all the gods that came before that they release more of them.

[NaclynE]

I don't care about paying for it I am interested in getting it. I think it would be as cool as "BRINING DOWN THE SKY" in 1 (even thought there were tons of numerous complaints about it and PC owners got it for free). thanks to that first PDLC for ME1 Batarians are commonly seen in 2 as opposed to seen only once. To me BDTS was still worth it and I am sure the Kasumi is going to be worth it even for the new character.

[clanhenderson8]

imnotjakeybot wrote...

So will Kasumi be one of those "it's already on the disc, but we're making you pay money to unlock it" types of DLC?

Assuming it is, do you think 7 bucks is a ripoff? I do, considering I already bought the disc and I legally own it.

So whaddya think?

Also, if Kasumi isn't already on the disc then this post has no point and that's a different discussion all together so let's assume she is. Or, if you like we can assume that some of her is and some is a required download. In that case I say 7 bucks is too much considering they've only added a bit of content to what's already on the disc for only an hours worth of gameplay. I say more like $2 or $3. Am I being mean to BW? No. We're talking principles here!

"Whaaah. I have to pay money for something that I want. Whaaah."

Regardless of whether it was "on the CD" or not, it wasn't "in the game."
If you want it, you pay for it. It's not like BioWare is out to make money or anything.

I can't stand these fools that think they deserve everything dressed in a neat little bow, because they paid some arbitrary amount in the past. People like you are the ones that think you shouldn't have to pay a subscription fee for and MMO because you already "bought the CD."

When it comes down to it. If Kasumi was never talked about, regardless of whether the "data was already on the CD," you would have been pleased as punch with the original cast.

Don't post moronic threads like this.

[SmokeyNinjas]

clanhenderson8 wrote...

imnotjakeybot wrote...

So will Kasumi be one of those "it's already on the disc, but we're making you pay money to unlock it" types of DLC?

Assuming it is, do you think 7 bucks is a ripoff? I do, considering I already bought the disc and I legally own it.

So whaddya think?

Also, if Kasumi isn't already on the disc then this post has no point and that's a different discussion all together so let's assume she is. Or, if you like we can assume that some of her is and some is a required download. In that case I say 7 bucks is too much considering they've only added a bit of content to what's already on the disc for only an hours worth of gameplay. I say more like $2 or $3. Am I being mean to BW? No. We're talking principles here!

"Whaaah. I have to pay money for something that I want. Whaaah."

Regardless of whether it was "on the CD" or not, it wasn't "in the game."
If you want it, you pay for it. It's not like BioWare is out to make money or anything.

I can't stand these fools that think they deserve everything dressed in a neat little bow, because they paid some arbitrary amount in the past. People like you are the ones that think you shouldn't have to pay a subscription fee for and MMO because you already "bought the CD."

When it comes down to it. If Kasumi was never talked about, regardless of whether the "data was already on the CD," you would have been pleased as punch with the original cast.

Don't post moronic threads like this.

These are public forums mate so he's got the right to express his opinion.
If you dont like it you don't have to read it.

[Masticetobbacco]

people are simply pissed that they paid $15 for Cerb Network, to get weapons, a shi.tty vehicle pack, and zaeed. Zaeed was the only real good item that came with cerb network, but he is definitely not worth $15.



Now they're additionally charging us half of that for a new character. Fair enough, Bioware needs to make money right?



Well I can't buy it, I dont have a credit card, can I use a debit card?

[DaVanguard]

Masticetobbacco wrote...

people are simply pissed that they paid $15 for Cerb Network, to get weapons, a shi.tty vehicle pack, and zaeed. Zaeed was the only real good item that came with cerb network, but he is definitely not worth $15.

Now they're additionally charging us half of that for a new character. Fair enough, Bioware needs to make money right?

Well I can't buy it, I dont have a credit card, can I use a debit card?

dont know if you can but its worth a try

[MaaZeus]

Masticetobbacco wrote...

people are simply pissed that they paid $15 for Cerb Network, to get weapons, a shi.tty vehicle pack, and zaeed. Zaeed was the only real good item that came with cerb network, but he is definitely not worth $15.

Now they're additionally charging us half of that for a new character. Fair enough, Bioware needs to make money right?

Well I can't buy it, I dont have a credit card, can I use a debit card?

You can use Paypal to buy Bioware Points. I dont know if it supports direct bank transfer or your debit card in your region though.

[Masticetobbacco]

toronto canada...



will that work?