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[Meshick]

...it is ripoff - they should release DLCs in bigger packs !

[cxensign]

SVRG wrote...

I think considering the time window it's releasing after the game itself that it probably isn't on the disc. Still, it seems that all companies assume they can charge $60 for a game, include "bonus" content packaged with the sole intent of preventing used game sales, and release DLC originally intended to be in the game itself (like Shale).

It's interesting that pretty much everyone thinks they can change $50-60 for a game, when so few games that come out are really worth that.  In principle there's no harm in selling at a higher price up front to grab the early fans who can't wait, but it's hard to drop prices heavily on boxed copies, and so many games really should have a $20, $30 price point.  You really need a Mass Effect quality title to justify the $50-$60 price tag.

I have trouble imagining that the Shale DLC for Dragon Age was intended to be in the game itself, or even that it was made by the same team; the quality of that package was much, much lower than the quality of the main game.  I was getting Baldur's Gate expansion flashbacks when playing it.

[TheLostGenius]

trigger2kill1 wrote...

The Questioning Motive wrote...

TheLostGenius wrote...

What really bothers me is that they didn't give her a recruitment mission. You "bump into her" on the Citadel. Would have been over two hours if she had a recruitment mission AND a loyalty mission. Seems half baked IMO.

>Kasumi's Stolen Memory, featuring a new squad member and associated set of missions,
as well as a new Achievement and the 'Locust' submachine gun. (April 6,
2010)

>associated set of missions.

Any more complaints?

@cxensign

They're releasing the incisor rifle over the Cerberus network. According to the ME wiki.

Where are you getting your information? Or am I just not reading what they have on the site correctly?
http://masseffect.bi...e.com/info/dlc/

Cerberus has procured the service of Kasumi Goto, the galaxy's most enigmatic master thief. In return for her help, Kasumi has asked Shepard's help on a dangerous heist to infiltrate the vault of a deadly master criminal named Donovan Hock. Gain Kasumi's loyalty on the planet Bekenstein, where Hock is throwing a party for some of the galaxy's richest and most deranged criminal minds to recover data of great importance to Kasumi... and to the galaxy at large. Includes a new squad member, mission, weapon, research upgrade, casual outfit, and achievement.
That is copy / paste from the dlc site. Mission, set of missions, uhh...ruts rup raggy? I see nowhere that says "set of missions". Are you getting this from another site? If so what is the link? Please provide proof of your claims. Or are you misreading it yourself?

Set of missions is a semantics. She has one loyalty mission that might have several different parts, but it will be the same length as any other characters loyalty mission. Sans the dialogue, we are probably getting maybe 30 minutes of ACTUAL gameplay, TOPS.

[dchalf10]

I think it's worth it, and i'm not talking in $'s per hour, that's a pretty stupid way to break it down.

Dragon Age: Awakening was overpriced and it offered more hours/$.

It adds an interesting new character with awesome skills and you can use them for the entire playthrough, so it really enhances the entire playthrough, I have found a new permanent party member, seeing as my beloved tali was raped with the gimping of tech skills...

I am morally opposed to DLC and this is the second DLC item i've ever bought, I usually torrent DLC, but I felt that it was worth it and don't regret my purchase. I'm just glad all the other DLC was free for me so far, If all the DLC was charged for then there is no way I would have bought any of it because as a whole it becomes too expensive, if they plan to release it like that then they should release an expansion pack. But as a once off kasumi was great.

[enhaR907]

imnotjakeybot wrote...

So will Kasumi be one of those "it's already on the disc, but we're making you pay money to unlock it" types of DLC?

Assuming it is, do you think 7 bucks is a ripoff? I do, considering I already bought the disc and I legally own it.

So whaddya think?

Also, if Kasumi isn't already on the disc then this post has no point and that's a different discussion all together so let's assume she is. Or, if you like we can assume that some of her is and some is a required download. In that case I say 7 bucks is too much considering they've only added a bit of content to what's already on the disc for only an hours worth of gameplay. I say more like $2 or $3. Am I being mean to BW? No. We're talking principles here!

I lol'd.

I am going to disagree. Why? Because I bought the disc and legally own it. I also assume that I am right, because assuming things makes it all valid..................assume.

Excuse me as I pass over your bridge.

Modifié par enhaR907, 08 avril 2010 - 03:05 .

[Azn_Vanguard]

@MasciseTobacco

actually you can use a debit card. It's the same process as using a credit card too. lol hope that helps.

[RoninOmega]

Ok, a character with a good story but still you know less of her background and she has many comments to say more than jacob background and even with no wheel?  I'd say she was worth the full 7 dollars. 

If it was 10, I can see why people are not agreeable, but cmon, there are small files there initially before when she was only a rumor.  It was obvious bioware couldn't finish in time and wants to add back in their cut content as dlc.  You do know there are many other devs who has even an easier advantage to remake their cut content into the game, but does not wish to?


Be glad they decided to get her in the game.  I hope she makes it to mass effect 3  
unacceptable if she doesn't.

[SpockLives]

I liked it. 1.5 hours for me, and definitely worth the $7.

[d3c0yBoY]

New toon, new smg, new bonus power, new loyalty mission, oh my!



Yes, its worth it.

[SuperMedbh]

Wow, I've never seen such love for a DLC/expansion on these forums! Bioware must have done something right. I loved it, too, for the record. BWAAPPP! goes my Locust.

[Meglivorn]

Just like to mention that the Kasumi DLC was 991 MB data to download (Zaeed was only 498). So no, it wasn't already on the disk



And even with my rants about it (too easy/strightforward, could've use this opportunity to correct the female walk animation, etc...) I do think it's worth the cost.

[FFTARoxorz05]

Apparently people want games to be in development forever as every little idea is made. Companies like Bioware already said releasing dlc is good since developers finish the game months before it's released, and I really don't mind paying for more of ME2 instead of the extra bits just being scrapped.

This new SMG might make the rest of the game easy, but I can't act like snipers haven't done that already.

Modifié par FFTARoxorz05, 08 avril 2010 - 08:46 .

[xxXBeatXxx0]

i'd say it was worth it.....or am i just convincing my self it was worth it?, do to the fact i stayed up for ten hours waiting only to find out you had to go directly to the mass effect 2 page to download it.

but hey brand new squad member,smg,and acheivment? id say its worth it

[GHOST OF FRUITY]

I think it was well worth the price. I enjoyed it a great deal and felt I got my money's worth. If it had been 800 points however, that would have been unnacceptable. DLC in terms of pricing has to represent the content. I felt Kasumi was about right - and where that recent Modern Warfare 2 map pack was by all accounts so very wrong. Terrible to think that a million gullible MW2 players pretty much gave the green light for games companies to charge more for sub standard content.

[demongirl420]

i just dont understand why i have to pay for members of the team. what happens in the 3rd ME when i dont have kasumishttp://social.bioware.com/brc/967354

[brain_damage]

I really couldn't care less whether she's ripoff or not. Cause she's awesome.

[nikki191]

well the dlc is extenting the ammount of time im playing the game, i woul of had it unistalled if it wasnt for the dlc.



In regards to the new kasumi DLC, im quite pleased with it, i liked it and its length, i enjoyed to story i like the character and the powers, havent used the smg yet as im playing a soldier but all extra small arms are much appreciated.



if they keep producing DLC of this quality ill be more than willing to purchase it.

[1490]

Downloaded and finished Kasumi's mission today, and I liked it quite a bit. While 7 bucks for DLC is pushing it for me, I thought it was way better than Bring Down the Sky for ME 1, which was 5 bucks and didn't give you a new character, new outfit, new weapon, and new area of the ship. Also, while Kasumi only has one specific mission, like the other characters she is present for the entire rest of the game and makes comments on all the other missions. Still wish you could have a conversation with her (and Zaeed) on the ship, but I still liked her comments.

[DrMatta]

Yes it is. It should've just been free through Cerberus Network.

It's ridiculous companies try to charge 5-10$ for 60-90 min DLC.

I blame Microsoft's introduction to these "micro-transactions"



Now it's "maxi-transactions" for "micro-content"

[dskylark]

XtremegamerHK47 wrote...

Felt like a James Bond movie, IMO.

Which made it worth it.  A little on the short side, I would've liked more Bond-esque gameplay, but I had a good time and am really enjoying my new Space Ninja. 

She is a vanguards dream.  Good to know I'll have someone right there with me when I charge half way across the room and get separated from the team.  She always shows up right behind and covers my ass.


Kasumi was definately worth the $7.  Shale costs a whole $15 in DA:O and all she does is hang out in my camp.  

I think BioWare cut some parts out of the mission though.  One of the trailers, I remember seeing Shep do more fighting in his formal wear? 

[Bucky_McLachlan]

thisisme8 wrote...

Considering Capcom made around 15 versions of Street Fighter II and Charged full price for every single one of them, I think seven bucks is a deal.

This is just a bad argument in general, this began in an era where it was impossible to simply patch a game, and Street Fighter was ALWAYS and still is first and foremost an arcade game and as far as this series is concerned Capcom caters mainly to that crowd. Camcom has never relied on selling copies of the console versions to meet their profit goals anyways. It's not exactly a heavy hitter at home.

Also, those sprites were damn difficult and time consuming to animate. To some extent, each version they released (usually new characters and graphics have come with each version) required as much or more effort in that regard as most modern games do. 3D makes everything easier.

This is why the upcoming Super Street Fighter 4 is not going to cost the price of a full game. And ya I'll cough up $30 to play a much more balanced game, with more gamemodes (including a replay theater) that will feature much better online play. The fact that they're bringing back ultra combo selection, bonus stages and an additional 10 characters (including Dudley ) is a definite bonus.

Modifié par Bucky_McLachlan, 08 avril 2010 - 04:12 .

[danitiwa]

Seven bucks is not that much. It's what you pay for a one-colored retail t-shirt. I mean come on.

[StuartMarshall]

Kasumi was definately worth the $7.  Shale costs a whole $15 in DA:O and all she does is hang out in my camp.

Well, Shale was actually free for most who bought the game and does a lot more than hang around the camp. She has full branching dialogue menu and two unique missions (the town where you get her and the Deep Roads where you discover her past).

[Shady Cadence]

To all those complaining about paying a measley $7 for DLC:

Show us how it should be done. Write your own whole mission, character, environment, yada yada, and sell it for less than $7. Then tell me if you think your money was worth the effort.