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[Cephei78]

I preordered DA:O but didn't play it yet because I want a bug free game for my first playthrough.
After 3 patches there are still many unfixed bugs (e.g. +healing received) and newly introduced ones (stealing bug).

I´m pretty disappointed with you Bioware, until today I preordered every game from you but I´m more careful in the future. At least you could have fixed DA:O before releasing the first expansion. I know you have numerous teams working on different things, but if an expansion is released if the main game is still very buggy the "patch team" is apparently too small.
Well, you have my money (at least for DA:O) but don't expect more from me until you pay more attention to quality.

[RobUnreal]

I don't have a problem

[Cephei78]

So, you don't have for example the +healing received bug? Or did you mean you don't care if the core mechanic isn't working properly?

[Catcher]

If you're waiting on a game, ANY game to be completely bug free before you try it, you might as well get the chess set out (and I understand after 5000 years the pawn STILL moves one way and attacks another ) Seriously, if you're that obsessive about a magical effect that's 1: Not all that powerful anyway 2: Present on a few select magical items 3: Fixed by a community member if you just look for it, that you don't even play the game, then you only have yourself to blame. It's one thing to hold Bioware's feet to the fire on fixing truely game breaking bugs (like the corruption of all save files on the XBOX 360 when a merchant gets overloaded). It's another to deny yourself the pleasure of what is a fine game over some bugs that have little if any effect on an actual playthrough, particullarly since you're pre-warned so you don't waste gold/time on useless items. Go ahead give it a try.

[Taiko Roshi]

Sorry to disappoint you but EA/BW now have your money. They don't care about you or the game. If you think they will patch DA:O then you really should try and get your money back cause it ain't gonna happen.

Modifié par Taiko Roshi, 02 avril 2010 - 01:24 .

[ZZ Thomp]

I have a serious question, and it's not me whining about +healing effects or anything. I have killed 1337 darkspawn and I never got any achievements for killing 500 or 1000 darkspawn. Also, I recruited Loghain but never got the recruited all party members achievement, and yes, I know for a fact that I've recruited everyone else. Does anybody know how I can get my damn achievements?! It's really irritating me when I've put well over 80 hours into this game and don't get the achievements I deserve. Not to sound too ****y or anything, it's just irking lol I'm sure you all understand

[searanox]

Taiko Roshi wrote...

Sorry to disappoint you but EA/BW now have your money. They don't care about you or the game. If you think they will patch DA:O then you really should try and get your money back cause it ain't gonna happen.

This.

Stop buying their **** and they might listen a little harder the next time.

[ZZ Thomp]

The game itself is ****in wicked though, easily one of my favourites, it's just stupid how I meet the achievement requirements but don't get my achievements. I don't care if the solution is to start a new game, I just want a damn solution, that's all

[Challseus]

If I have encountered these bugs, they haven't been enough to stop me from enjoying the game. The only issue I had was with the crashing while in Ostagar bug, when using a certain Radeon graphics card. Once I switched it out for another one, things have been smooth.

[The Miller]

Not had any problems with DAO, or the Wardens Keep & StonePrisoner DLC. I recently bought the Return to Ostagar DLC, and, although EA/Bioware were happy to accept the 400 point payment from me, I can't get it to load. I've complained a couple of times about this, in the past few days, and, so it seems, have MANY others, and we get little, or no, response.

SUCH a shame, as I've enjoyed so much of their product over the years, right back to Baldur's Gate. This, though, has really put me off, and I won't be buying anything more until they acknowledge, and fix, o/s problems!

[Nukenin]

For the sake of console owners I'd hope they'd release another patch or three to address the more readily apparent issues.  It'd be nice for them to set the bar a little higher here than stick with the industry standard.

I've made my own fixes to satisfy my own game experience, and utilize Mad Method's patch for transferring DLC to Awakening, but absolutely zero of that is required to enjoy the game.  I've played for months without even being aware of the +healing received issue.  My rogues were getting along just fine doing things other than stealing except for occasionally hitting the "known marks". and I really wasn't missing my Mabari digging up the occasional Elfroot or iron ring.  

EDIT/INSERT: Before being made aware of Mad Method's low impact method for DLC transfer, I was simply planning my current Origins playthrough around not touching the content/abilities I knew would not transfer over.  Even had I not done so, I'd be able to put up with hiding the abilities that were incompletely transitioned, doing without the gear that failed to transition, and with regard to the WK/Awakening texture conflict, I could've simply disabled WK every time I dipped into Awakening.  Inelegant, yes, but not craze-inducing.

To wait until the game (or any game, for that matter) is "fixed" to a "perfect" state is an exercise in futility and frustration.

Modifié par Nukenin, 02 avril 2010 - 03:23 .

[Cephei78]

The +healing bug was just an example, of course there are more serious bugs. And I´m fully aware that no software is bugfree. My point is that it looks like EA/Bioware is busy making money with DLCs/expansions completely forgetting that there are still (serious) bugs to fix.

[Catcher]

Cephei78 wrote...

The +healing bug was just an example, of course there are more serious bugs. And I´m fully aware that no software is bugfree. My point is that it looks like EA/Bioware is busy making money with DLCs/expansions completely forgetting that there are still (serious) bugs to fix.

    That's fair, though I would disagree that there's truly many serious bugs. What I would point out is that you've already paid for the game; why not play it with the marvelous foreknowledge of its bugs that you have (and we DIDN'T have back in 2000, say) and get your entertainment value from it. Not playing the game doesn't teach EA/Bioware anything and leaves you out the value that's in the box besides. Don't get any paid DLC though and avoid the 1.03 patch like the Blight it is.

[carlosjuero]

So... you haven't played the game yet, but are basing not wanting to play it on bug reports from other people? Even though some people have not had as many issues as some? Really?



Play the game, if you encounter bugs that stop you from enjoying it then come on to the forums and start your gripe fest. Criticizing BioWare for bugs in a game that you haven't even played yet is... just `off`.

[Nukenin]

It could also be that they are making a concerted effort to identify and squash the sorts of bugs that players have found that were somehow overlooked in their QA efforts for initial release and the subsequent patches.  We'll see what patch 1.04 addresses if and when it actually happens.  It's entirely possible that all the popular bugs will be addressed, and a whole crop of new ones will pop up to take their place in a slew of new disappointment/fanrage forum threads. 

[Cephei78]

Catcher wrote...

Cephei78 wrote...

The +healing bug was just an example, of course there are more serious bugs. And I´m fully aware that no software is bugfree. My point is that it looks like EA/Bioware is busy making money with DLCs/expansions completely forgetting that there are still (serious) bugs to fix.

    That's fair, though I would disagree that there's truly many serious bugs. What I would point out is that you've already paid for the game; why not play it with the marvelous foreknowledge of its bugs that you have (and we DIDN'T have back in 2000, say) and get your entertainment value from it. Not playing the game doesn't teach EA/Bioware anything and leaves you out the value that's in the box besides. Don't get any paid DLC though and avoid the 1.03 patch like the Blight it is.

Well, I´m stubborn, I have waited 4 months for a relatively bugfree version - I wait another 4 months if it must be
Of course, they lost a loyal customer, that will teach them - or not

Modifié par Cephei78, 02 avril 2010 - 04:10 .

[Nukenin]

Cephei78 wrote...

Well, I´m stubborn, I have waited 4 months for a relatively bugfree version - I wait another 4 months if it must be
Of course, they lost a loyal customer, that will teach them - or not

Teach them what? 

Most people who wait for a "relatively bugfree version" do this by waiting to buy the game.  They may actually save money by doing this.  For these people, the lack of a "collector's edition" or preorder bonus items is of little concern.

Most people that preorder want to play the game now, not later.  Bugs, warts, and all.  If they encounter issues, they know where to unleash their fanrage.  That's a good chunk of the game experience for them right there, unleashing holy hell on the forums.  But at least they tend to have personal experience with the game before venting/raging.

So all this may teach them is that there are some odd people out there.  Except they already know this, with the breed of humanity known as "marketer" polluting their ranks.  So it teaches them nothing.  IMHO.  They've probably gained three new customers in the time it took for you to express your disappointment (conservative, very conservative guesstimate). 

[Cephei78]

carlosjuero wrote...

So... you haven't played the game yet, but are basing not wanting to play it on bug reports from other people? Even though some people have not had as many issues as some? Really?

Play the game, if you encounter bugs that stop you from enjoying it then come on to the forums and start your gripe fest. Criticizing BioWare for bugs in a game that you haven't even played yet is... just `off`.

Because I didn't play the game yet doesn't mean the bugs aren't  there. Every Bioware game I played until now was a masterpiece, I´d like to enjoy it without disruption.

[Extacykillz]

Catcher wrote...

If you're waiting on a game, ANY game to be completely bug free before you try it, you might as well get the chess set out (and I understand after 5000 years the pawn STILL moves one way and attacks another ) Seriously, if you're that obsessive about a magical effect that's 1: Not all that powerful anyway 2: Present on a few select magical items 3: Fixed by a community member if you just look for it, that you don't even play the game, then you only have yourself to blame. It's one thing to hold Bioware's feet to the fire on fixing truely game breaking bugs (like the corruption of all save files on the XBOX 360 when a merchant gets overloaded). It's another to deny yourself the pleasure of what is a fine game over some bugs that have little if any effect on an actual playthrough, particullarly since you're pre-warned so you don't waste gold/time on useless items. Go ahead give it a try.

Good point!

[Cephei78]

Nukenin wrote...

Cephei78 wrote...

Well, I´m stubborn, I have waited 4 months for a relatively bugfree version - I wait another 4 months if it must be
Of course, they lost a loyal customer, that will teach them - or not

Teach them what? 

Most people who wait for a "relatively bugfree version" do this by waiting to buy the game.  They may actually save money by doing this.  For these people, the lack of a "collector's edition" or preorder bonus items is of little concern.
.

I learned that lesson, as I said, they lost a loyal customer.

Modifié par Cephei78, 02 avril 2010 - 04:34 .

[Cephei78]

Hanz54321 wrote...

I did enjoy DAO until patch 1.03. So I'm trying to make it work.

My solution to all this was to uninstall, reinstall, and patch 1.02a from a satellite site. For now. Until EA (hopefully) fixes this.

I have to agree with the OP. I made a thread about this last night myself.

Pickpocket is an essential part of the game. It makes good gold so the characters can buy great gear. This makes the game fun. It should be fixed.

Influence is an essential part of the game and triggers plot points. It makes the game fun. It should be fixed.

Having gear disappear forever in dungeon encounters (DAA) is a major pain - gear is what makes the character. It should be fixed.

Not being able to transfer SOME DLC gear during character transfer also is a major bummer. I liked my Warden Commander's set. It was not fun to have it disappear when I started Awakenings. Games should be fun. This should be fixed.

For those saying, "Just put up with it," I ask you this: how bad do consumer products need to be before you stop consuming?

Thank you for listing some of the bugs, it's something I should have done in my first post

[jrowe2k]

"Also, I recruited Loghain but never got the recruited all party members achievement, and yes, I know for a fact that I've recruited everyone else" 

Thanks for the spoiler

Modifié par jrowe2k, 02 avril 2010 - 04:45 .

[Challseus]

Cephei78 wrote...

...My point is that it looks like EA/Bioware is busy making money with DLCs/expansions completely forgetting that there are still (serious) bugs to fix.

How exactly does it look this way? Perhaps there are *gasp* 2 dedicated teams. One doing DLC, one doing patch work. And just because there aren't fixes out doesn't mean they're not working on them...

[Cephei78]

Challseus wrote...

Cephei78 wrote...

...My point is that it looks like EA/Bioware is busy making money with DLCs/expansions completely forgetting that there are still (serious) bugs to fix.

How exactly does it look this way? Perhaps there are *gasp* 2 dedicated teams. One doing DLC, one doing patch work. And just because there aren't fixes out doesn't mean they're not working on them...

Well, I´m not going to repeat what I said earlier maybe you should read the thread again. I didn't say they are not working on a bugfix and I did point out that there is (obviously) more than one team, it's all about priorities and what makes money (DLCs/expansions) and what not (patches). Maybe I wasn't clear though, english is not my first language 

Modifié par Cephei78, 02 avril 2010 - 04:57 .