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[geckosentme]

There probably will be some falling away of people, getting drawn to other things, etc. Probably non-Romancables like Mordin will move on. Maybe visit him on Tuchanka hanging with Wrex curin' the genophage. And the Justicar/Morinth, Zaeed, etc. They could be easily removed in ME3 without really messing up the continuity of anyone's ME2 game, regardless of whether they lived or died.

[The RPGenius]

I must admit that I would like only a few new characters, as well. I mean, I wouldn't want them ALL to just be the same ones, but Shepard's gotten some of the best of the best in the galaxy in his team now, and there's not much room for improvement over a lot of the ones who would be most likely to stick by him for the long haul. At the very least, I don't want to up and lose 2/3 of the team again--I'm glad we got to keep Tali and Garrus in ME2, but Wrex, who had been to me the deepest and most fascinating character in ME1, was sorely missed. I'll be very sad if we have to replace the fascinating characters of Mordin and Samara (I AM reluctantly prepared to give up on Thane, though, given that the plot itself has given him little time to live).

[Mako Zalos]

well scratch my last thing about the other races because I think that ME3 willhave to do with uniting the races into one big army to combat the reapers like the rachni, geth, quarian, etc. But the onlynew squaddies I would like to be would be two new ones a Batarian, and a Raloi.

[Lucky Thirteen]

I think there should be a mix of ME1, ME2, and then a few (like 3 or 4) new characters or completely optional new characters to add to your crew that you run into along the way.



I love seeing the previous characters develop and I also love meeting new characters. I don't want an entirely new crew though. Just the mixer of having old friends and new friends is overall appealing.



Also for the people that decide to play where they are missing 2 from the first game, and then most of the crew in ME3, they'll be kinda screwed if there's no one new. That of course could be a consequence to letting so many people die, but yeah, it's just lame.

[Aven]

FenixFire wrote...

Mass Effect 2 clearly was a run up to Mass Effect 3, so I doubt you'll see a lot of new faces in the next installement. The second game was about gathering allies, I presume the next will be about using those allies from the previous game(s) to combat/prepare for the Reaper threat. Having lost a bunch in Mass Effect 2 is Shepard's own fault, so I reckon you'll have to deal with the consequences if you were careless.

This is a good point and storywise it might fit really well. 
As a game designer they have to make the game playable by as many as possible though, and making a lot of people miss out on a lot of content because the squad mate it was about is dead, is not a good option for them I think.

The second game was about gathering allies... for the suicide mission. 
Zaeed will no longer get payment as his mission is done.
Thane had a deadly disease, who knows how long he's got left.
Samara's contract is fulfilled and having completed her 400 years long life-quest she might need some time to hersef (or not completed, which will probably make her try to find Morinth again
Tali'Zorah and the rest of the quarians might have a busy schedule with a war coming up.
list goes on...

We just don't know which direction the story goes. We will likely see some of the characters again, but making the series into ME1, ME2 and ME2-2 is not the best option, so they can't just continue ME2 like it was just more missions in it.

[Siansonea]

I think the ME3 team should be a mix of ME1 and ME2 squadmates, with some new ones added to the mix for variety and simply for something new. It would be very cool if every surviving squadmate from ME1 and ME2 was recruitable, especially if there were some new twists to their characters based on the way their loyalty missions played out (for ME2 squadmates) or how things transpired while stopping Saren (for Liara, Kaidan, Ashley and Wrex).



Liara will undoubtedly be much like we see her on Illium, depending on where she is in her quest to kill the Shadow Broker. In any case, she’s a lock to return, being the only squad member who is 100% guaranteed to be alive in ME3.



Tali is so popular there’s no doubt she’ll return as well. Considering the fact that Bioware added a Tali romance in ME2, it’s likely that they will expand this in ME3 to satisfy the legions (no pun intended) of Tali lovers.



Garrus will likely return as well, for reasons similar to Tali’s. Even if you don’t lust after Garrus, he’s a fun character, and it’s hard not to have some affection toward him.



Kaidan and Ashley will continue to fill a single role in the franchise, since they are a toggle character at this point, and one of them is guaranteed to be alive in ME3. There’s no doubt that the Virmire survivor will return to the fold, and hopefully they will surprise us somewhat, since a lot of time will have passed in the game, and they will be in different places in their lives. I would like to see Kaidan and Ashley return as LIs for Shepard, and expand them to allow same-sex romance with Shepard. Each of them could believably be bisexual, in my opinion.



Personally, I can't see Wrex returning to Shepard's ship, I see him leading a team of krogan to stop the Reapers. He’s got too much clout among the krogan on Tuchanka. That is, unless Shepard or Ashley put him down on Virmire.



Mordin is a fun character and the only salarian. I’m pretty sure he’ll be back.



Miranda is a great character, and pretty integral to the plot of ME2. She’s one of the most well-developed characters created for ME2, and I think she has a lot of fans. I can see her coming back.



Jacob is almost universally disliked from what I can tell. I personally find his character to lack any real spark, and his dialogue makes me cringe sometimes. He’s a character that can be retired, as far as I’m concerned. I certainly wouldn’t miss him.



Grunt has potential to be a more interesting character, I certainly like him better than I liked Wrex. If we have to pick one krogan to return to the Normandy, I would vote for Grunt.



Jack is very unstable, it's easy to imagine two very different Jacks in ME3, depending on Shepard's actions toward her in ME2. Jack who was loved by Shepard might have let her hair grow a bit, softened her look some, and wears clothing that isn’t quite as confrontational as her non-loyal, non romanced counterpart, who is probably even more crazy that ME2 Jack.



I think Thane will either be dead or close to death by the time the events of ME3 begin. He probably won’t return, and in any case I think he has far fewer fans than some of the others. He’s another character I wouldn’t miss.



Samara is probably my favorite ME2 squad mate, but I can see that her return is less of a certainty than some of the others. She even mentions leaving the Normandy after the mission is over, and searching remote asari worlds for ardat-yakshi. Even so, if the galaxy’s peril was sufficiently great, there’s no doubt she would join the fight. And as much as I like Samara, I get the feeling she’s one of the less popular characters.



Legion is a fascinating character, not at all what I was expecting, and I would like to see the character given a chance to shine from the beginning of the story, rather than joining the party so late in the game. I think he’s got a lot of fans, and I think through Legion, Shepard has acquired a solid ally in the fight against the Reapers. Shepard may have even recruited the entire Geth race, just by recruiting Legion. Of course, if Legion is just handed over to Cerberus in ME2, things could play out very differently in ME3.



Kasumi and Zaeed are not that well-developed, I doubt they’ll return.



If new squad mates are added to the roster, they should be interesting and compelling. Considering the great job Bioware did with everyone in the ME2 squad (except for Jacob), I’m sure they’ll make sound decisions regarding the ME3 crew’s makeup.

[Canned Bullets]

Well, ME2 is just about building up a team.

[Aven]

Canned Bullets wrote...

Well, ME2 is just about building up a team.

It's about building up a team for the suicide mission.

I see a lot of people using this as an argument for using the ME2 chars in ME3, but I don't think it's a valig argument.
You recruited them for a specific mission; that mission is complete.

[hawat333]

Considering what ME2 achieved with presenting the new characters, this topic is meaningless.

Half the forums were like Oh, I don't want new squadmates.

After the release they went Oh, I love the new squadmates.

Why do you think it would be that much different with ME3?

[Chief Martini]

hawat333 wrote...

Considering what ME2 achieved with presenting the new characters, this topic is meaningless.
Half the forums were like Oh, I don't want new squadmates.
After the release they went Oh, I love the new squadmates.
Why do you think it would be that much different with ME3?

Because ME3 is the last of the series, or at least the "Shepard story".

Wouldn't it warm your heart with love to see all (or at least most) of the good old ME1 and 2 characters return in ME3? So you can fight side by side again against the Reaper threat, to continue the romances from ME1 and 2?

Of course, having some new squadmates wouldn't hurt, but I wouldn't mind having no new squadmates, I love the old ones much more.

And why do you say that the whole forums went "Oh I love the new squadmates" while there are thousands of topics saying how mad they are that people like Liara, Ashley/Kaidan, and Wrex didn't return?

I certainly did not love the new squadmates, I spent most of my time with Garrus and Tali.

I hated it how so many squadmates of Mass Effect 1 didn't return, and I don't want the same to happen with Mass Effect 3.

You met a lot of new squadmates in ME1 and 2, I hope BioWare will combine these in ME3 and then fight the Reaper threat together, with all your loved squadmates.

Also, Squadmates aren't the only allies you've got in Mass Effect, maybe you'll have the squadmates from ME1 and ME2, and have some new allies who do (not) travel with you on the Normandy.

And no, Mass Effect is not about meeting new characters, it's about developing relations between characters, and seeing them develop.

Thanks for the support and opinions guys, keep posting!

[spacehamsterZH]

Aven wrote...
I see a lot of people using this as an argument for using the ME2 chars in ME3, but I don't think it's a valig argument.
You recruited them for a specific mission; that mission is complete.

The game does make a point of allowing you to continue with your team after the suicide mission, though. And honestly, basically flushing out all the new characters again, making half of them recruitable again... whatever logical reasons there may or may not be to do this, it would seem dumb and repetitive. I really hope ME3 doesn't basically start off the same way as ME2 did.

[RenownedRyan]

Chief Martini wrote...

Don't you think it would be pretty lame if we would have to start over with new squadmates AGAIN?

I'd rather have the squadmates from Mass Effect 1 back, like Liara, Wrex, etc., and some of the surviving squadmates from Mass Effect 2, like Garrus, Tali, all the ones that are really loved by the community. 

I hated the fact that I had to start with new squadmates in Mass Effect 2, I recruited Tali and Garrys as quickly as possible and always took them with me on missions.


What do you guys think about this?


-Chief

Definitely need some new squadmates.  We already know everything about these Squadmates.  They already trust us.  As much as I like the majority of them, that's the problem.  We need some new squadmates so that we can meet new people.  I'd like to see the return of all living squad members, but I don't see why we couldn't add some new ones?

[RenownedRyan]

spacehamsterZH wrote...

Aven wrote...
I see a lot of people using this as an argument for using the ME2 chars in ME3, but I don't think it's a valig argument.
You recruited them for a specific mission; that mission is complete.

The game does make a point of allowing you to continue with your team after the suicide mission, though. And honestly, basically flushing out all the new characters again, making half of them recruitable again... whatever logical reasons there may or may not be to do this, it would seem dumb and repetitive. I really hope ME3 doesn't basically start off the same way as ME2 did.

I'm afraid of this too, but I take solace in thinking how different the beginnings of ME and ME2 were.  So I assume a new, fresh storyline for ME3.  BioWare is not one for repetitive motion.

[GreedIsNoException]

What if I survive with only two squadmates? I think I deserve more for later. I'd be pretty boring to play with only two squadmates.



And even if they all survive, Samara makes a good point to you that she's leaving, Zaeed was just payed for the job, Thane's dying, Tali might become an admiral (most likely she'll stay the whole way), Miranda ... I see her staying either way (staying with cerberus or abandoning), Liara said she'd return, I doubt Wrex will be a squadmate (as much as I wish for him to become one), Grunt might go to Tuchanka but he likes Shepard a lot, Jacob ... the same applies to him like Miranda, Mordin might stay or continue investigating the genophage.



But anyways I think we need new squadmates for more fun.

[Persinian]

lol as i read this thread i kept thinking wow bioware really dug themselves in deep. mass effect is truly an awesome and versatile story. i mean they have 2 games worth of choices to account for i dunno about you guys but trying to work that through would be intimidating as heck. personally i think the survivors of me2 will stick around and kaiden/ashley will return to the group once the reapers are proven real. also i think liara is coming back mostly from what i read in the thread as well as that me2 comic redemption... unfortunately i dont think wrex is gonna come back though... too bad i liked wrex it would be awesome to have him and grunt in the same party



what i think bioware will probably do if a player makes a default shep if they cant import from me2 is assign characters based on paragon/renegade questions, its probably not the best way to do it but it kind of makes sense

[NaclynE]

Chief Martini wrote...

Don't you think it would be pretty lame if we would have to start over with new squadmates AGAIN?

I'd rather have the squadmates from Mass Effect 1 back, like Liara, Wrex, etc., and some of the surviving squadmates from Mass Effect 2, like Garrus, Tali, all the ones that are really loved by the community. 

I hated the fact that I had to start with new squadmates in Mass Effect 2, I recruited Tali and Garrys as quickly as possible and always took them with me on missions.


What do you guys think about this?


-Chief

I think that would be an awsome idea. I know it seems to be an idea of BIOWARE which they kind of sort of mentione in a interview in GAME INFORMER.
What my sister suggests is you have a lovers quarrel between your love interest from 1 veruses your love interest in 2 would depend on a possible "who's gonna say with shepard. whos gonna make the ultimite sacrafice for shepard" type thing. What I think they should do is bring back at least your survived character/love interest from Virmire and maybe Liara (I doubt it though since know she's a info broker veruseing SHADOW BROKER). I also would like Samara/Morinth transfer over because of the ability to either kill morinth or trade for her instead of Samara. I think also your love interest in 2 should carry over as well. Tali and Garrus to me are dead give ins to continue on because they've been through ALOT and them not being in 3 would be a big BIG BIG shame. 

Also Conrad Verner as a squad mate in 3?

Modifié par NaclynE, 04 avril 2010 - 08:59 .

[Oh You Know]

SmokeyNinjas wrote...

nope i want a hanar squadmate in me3 i like the way they talk:P

yes

[Oh You Know]

hawat333 wrote...

Considering what ME2 achieved with presenting the new characters, this topic is meaningless.
Half the forums were like Oh, I don't want new squadmates.
After the release they went Oh, I love the new squadmates.
Why do you think it would be that much different with ME3?

true!
i'm still waiting for a Hanar squadmate!

[Chief Martini]

There's not gonna be a Hanar squadmate, since they can't fight....at all.

And Hawat is not right, believe me.

Modifié par Chief Martini, 04 avril 2010 - 12:32 .

[Gerrium]

I see your point of view, but you dont think of those who started playing the ME series with the sequel and not the first game. What about them? they have already got used to them in the first place and I favor the new squadmates more than ME1 characters for ovbious reasons.



I am one of them, I started playing the series for the first time in ME2 and I have enjoyed these characters so much that I would hate to see them gone.



I guess people like me are a sort of a second generation ME player, with a good headstart and a good team. If ME3 comes out I want to see them there . If you laughed ,cried and bled beside your ME1 Squadmates, then I and others shall do the same with ME2 squadmates as well...





I shall return to my meditations

[Chief Martini]

I understand, but if you read some of my messages, I simply say that I want the ME1 and ME2 characters back, since I'd hate to see them all disappear again and then start with new characters AGAIN.

[KujiMuji]

I'd probably prefer a mix of old and new squadmates spanning from ME1 to ME3..

I really disliked Jacob, okay'd Jack and cheated on Liara (Oh where thou my sweet archaeological nerd gone to?).

Garrus and Tali should be a must, along with any of the romance options. But no Jacob, please

[MaaZeus]

I think ME3 might work this way: You can recruit only limited number of characters. Everyone is available, but you can only pick some of them before your roster is full, and all depending if they even wish to join you or if they are alive in the first place. No big recruit missions, more like just quick contacts and some dialog, possibly with persuasion options on harder cases.  And once you are full mainstory kicks in.

I really believe that if you ditched the old LI in favor of a new one, the old one doesnt want to join you for obvious reasons (either she is pissed or its too painful to be with you). Makes most sense this way, no? And if someone died in ME2, there might be couple of possible replacements. Like if Tali died, you might get Kal'Reegar and so on... Or probaply Shiala if Samara bit the dust.

Also out of the old cast, its highly possible that Thane and Mordin wont be there. Mordin is in his twilight years. Depending on timegab between 2 and 3. he might be in wheelchair by then (would be sight ), wont probaply be an active squadmate anymore. Thane's condition is obvious. Unless Hanar pull a miracle out of their arses and finish the treatment in time, Thane is a goner or atleast no longer fit to frontline combat.


This is just my hypothesis, but this might work. Thoughts?

Modifié par MaaZeus, 05 avril 2010 - 07:04 .

[Chief Martini]

That could very well be possible MaaZeus, this way there will be a higher replay value as well, every replay session a different Team.



Good thoughts, let's see what the others think about it.