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I think it's very interesting how in the gaming world, such as in ME2, mining precious metals is necessary for technological progress. This seems to be based more on reality than the litany found in "real life" where paper money rules. Ironic?

However, I do wonder why Bioware left out gold and silver. Silver has the highest electrical and thermal conductivity of ANY metal, while gold has the highest maleability and ductility of ANY metal, which is why premium tech uses these elements, such as in satellites and space suits.

Without precious metals, we wouldn't have technology beyond simple crafting. Gamers seem to get this. The "real world" seems clueless.

No advanced aliens would ever want to trade their precious metals for our paper money.

All that said... but what in the galaxy are credits?





 

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I thought the precious metals were for the construction of weapons, not the technology of them.  I suppose the research needed to understand the metals would fit into the technology though.

I suppose gold and silver are just too real.:o

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The gold and silver are for jewelry. Such as Thane's new earring collection.



Check your codex about credits or visit the wiki- here



Paper money is dead.

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On leaving out silver and gold:  If they included them then this guy would have to show up somewhere

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The Sapien wrote...

I think it's very interesting how in the gaming world, such as in ME2, mining precious metals is necessary for technological progress. This seems to be based more on reality than the litany found in "real life" where paper money rules. Ironic?

However, I do wonder why Bioware left out gold and silver. Silver has the highest electrical and thermal conductivity of ANY metal, while gold has the highest maleability and ductility of ANY metal, which is why premium tech uses these elements, such as in satellites and space suits.

Without precious metals, we wouldn't have technology beyond simple crafting. Gamers seem to get this. The "real world" seems clueless.

No advanced aliens would ever want to trade their precious metals for our paper money.

All that said... but what in the galaxy are credits?






 


You are assuming you know how their economy works.

in "the real world" paper currency i s"supposedly" backed by gold in the federal reserve (for the US).  So 1 dollar is essentially a promisary note for an amount of gold you possess that is housed in the federal reserve.  This is why economic problems are not solved by printing money, which causes inflation.  If you print double the paper money in circulation now, a dollar would be worth half its current value i.e. if a candy bar cost a dollar, after you printed twice the money it would be worth 2 dollars.  The value of a paper currency is constantly in flux, a countries debt, stock market goings on, etc etc can all affect its value.

We dont just print paper stamp a value on it and say here lets use this as currency, nobody would do that because its worthless.  paper money has to be backed by something.

After WW1 for example, germany printed tons of money to try and solve their economic problems, but that just resulted in a loaf of bread costing a wheel barrel full of cash.

So in closing, Given credits working like our real world economy.   credits are backed by something of value, i.e. probably a precious metal.

So if any alien race wished to engage in commerce with us, they could trade products in exchange for its value in gold, if people had bars of gold to trade.   Or they could sell items for paper money,  then trade in their paper money to the fed for gold, because that paper money is a certificate of ownership of gold within the federal reserve.

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The gold and silver are for jewelry. Such as Thane's new earring collection.

Check your codex about credits or visit the wiki- here

Paper money is dead.


Thanks!

So credits aren't real. They're just another fiat currency. Great.

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DPSSOC wrote...

On leaving out silver and gold:  If they included them then this guy would have to show up somewhere


I remember that! Wow, timewarp.

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JohnnyDollar wrote...

I thought the precious metals were for the construction of weapons, not the technology of them.  I suppose the research needed to understand the metals would fit into the technology though.

I suppose gold and silver are just too real.:o


Too true!

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tsd16 wrote...



You are assuming you know how their economy works.

in "the real world" paper currency i s"supposedly" backed by gold in the federal reserve (for the US).  So 1 dollar is essentially a promisary note for an amount of gold you possess that is housed in the federal reserve.  This is why economic problems are not solved by printing money, which causes inflation.  If you print double the paper money in circulation now, a dollar would be worth half its current value i.e. if a candy bar cost a dollar, after you printed twice the money it would be worth 2 dollars.  The value of a paper currency is constantly in flux, a countries debt, stock market goings on, etc etc can all affect its value.

We dont just print paper stamp a value on it and say here lets use this as currency, nobody would do that because its worthless.  paper money has to be backed by something.

After WW1 for example, germany printed tons of money to try and solve their economic problems, but that just resulted in a loaf of bread costing a wheel barrel full of cash.

So in closing, Given credits working like our real world economy.   credits are backed by something of value, i.e. probably a precious metal.

So if any alien race wished to engage in commerce with us, they could trade products in exchange for its value in gold, if people had bars of gold to trade.   Or they could sell items for paper money,  then trade in their paper money to the fed for gold, because that paper money is a certificate of ownership of gold within the federal reserve.


Sorry to break this to you, but the US dollar, as of 1971, is no longer officially backed by gold. The link broke down when paper/digital multiplied in size whilst gold reserves were restrained by actual mining. The crisis was put off by abandoning the gold standard altogether (so that money could be produced for free!).

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Though they'd still be useful, I imagine Bioware avoided mentioning gold and silver because they just don't seem... "SciFi-ish" enough, despite their obvious technological uses. 

Plus, I think a lot of people tend to associate gold/silver currency as "primitive"; something only done in the "old days"

Modifié par sergio71785, 02 avril 2010 - 08:08 .


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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

The gold and silver are for jewelry. Such as Thane's new earring collection.

Check your codex about credits or visit the wiki- here

Paper money is dead.


My Shep reaches for her shotgun every time she hears someone talking about gold and silver as jewelry. This is ME, not DA. My Shep would only wear gold as shielding, like NASA astronauts whose suits have a super thin layer of gold to shield against radiation, yo.