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[Collider]

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[huntrrz]

Letting Balak go to save the hostages. There were other decisions that gave me pause, or that I have played again to try other paths, but this one gives me the most heartburn no matter how I play it.

[Commander Gonzalez]

Saving the council. Eventually I thought that the Citadel races would feel disbanded and I needed to make sure we had some kind of unity if we went into war against the Reapers. I didn't want to sacrifice human lives, but I was thinking of the long run.



Virmire because I absolutely hated Ashley, she killed my Wrex and Kaidan was my bro. (Bros before hoes) I let Kaidan go with the salarians and when I saw geth attack the bomb site, I was like oh damn... if they kill her, they could probably deactivate the bomb. I kept thinking whether to take the risk to save Kaidan or not. Sorry Kaidan, but I banged Ashley so your sacrifice was not in vein!



Choosing the tech specialist for the suicide mission. I totally forgot about upgrades which I was about to do, but then my crew got kidnapped and totally distracted me, and I remembered too late, when Jack was lazered. After losing her, Legion, and Thane. I was going into the suicide mission scared that I was going to surely not make it. I was afraid that Tech meant automatic sacrifice but eventually I was like ok Tali I'm going to risk it, I know you can do it! She made it but the rest of the mission wasn't too good.



Collector Base. I feel weird cause Garrus is my best bro in Mass Effect, but in both occasions of the endings of 1 & 2. He told me to either sacrifice the council or save the collector base. I have gone against his judgement so far in both games, hopefully he will have better judgement in the end of ME3. I blew that base to extinction!

[Marilynn-22]

telling the council to kiss my a.s.s, or become a spectre again.
either that or
Choosing an armor color.

Modifié par Marilynn-22, 03 avril 2010 - 05:41 .

[Internet Kraken]

Collider wrote...

Internet Kraken wrote...



In ME1, nothing.



In ME2, what to do about Tali's trial. I'm still not entirely sure which outcome is best for the Quarian people. Hiding the data makes me feel like a selfish ass. Revealing it also makes me feel like an ass because of what Tali says afterward during the mission (though her hissy fit on the ship makes me hate her rather than feel sorry for her).I'm still not quite sure what I'm going to do there when I come to it in a later playthrough.

I'm pretty sure the research did not yield anything. At most it would lead to more testing on geth which is a stupid idea. Everyone on the Alarei paid with their lives, there is no point to giving the data. And if you want to metagame, giving the data splits up the fleet anyway, which is also bad.

Revealing the data in public doesn't lead to research on the Geth. In fact it leads to the opposite depending on what you say. Xen complains about not being able to carry out further Geth research without major public opposition, and Gerrel says I crippeled his war effort. This is why I wonder if this is actually a better outcome. Sure a fringe group is trying to use the data against the Geth, but it's better than them dragging the whole flotilla with them. My thought process is that hiding the data doesn't magically get rid of all the political tension, and that ultimately some Quarians will go to war. It's just that revealing the evidence and opposing the war might make less Quarians do so. Not to mention Xen's method of dealing with the Geth will be opposed.



Of course I won't know how this will turn out until Mass Effect 3. But If showing the evidence causes more problems down the road than hiding it, then there is no reason to show it and the whole choice is pointless since there is only one "right" choice. I'm hoping BioWare will avoid such an outcome.

[Splinter Cell 108]

The one with the Batarian terrorists that want to destroy the colony. I always save the people, the advancement of colonies in the Terminus System is just not worth thousands of lives. Besides by saving it you're improving the Alliance's reputation with the Terminus colonies. Saving them shows that the Alliance is interested in the colonists and not just in the political improvement of the Alliance.

[janeym27]

I can't believe I forgot the Legion recruit one! That took more than a sandwich. I paused and watched Friends while I mulled it over. lol

[Milician]

Mordin's Loyalty Mission. Possibly the hardest choice i made in a long time. When he asks you what he should do with the data and all. Keep and cure. Destroy and condemn. Gah...had to choose the first one. I know in ME 3 thats gonna either make me a hero, or have Krogan shooting me up as they burn the Citadel. Ah well, Viva La Krogan!

[Sesshomaru47]

None. I always do the paragon thing. Even if it meant letting that 4 eyed guy go...now cutting Ethan's finger off, I had to psych myself into that.

[sammcl]

I didn't really find any decisions that difficult:
Genophage - keep the data just in case (i trust Mordin's judgement)
Sidonis - He sent Garrus' squad to their deaths, kill him. I heard out his story once and let him go, while it was an unfortunate situation i wasn't happy with the result, I don't think I'd be asking him why he got the squad killed, I'd just take him out.
BDTS - Save the hostages! I've never chosen to kill Balak so maybe that explains why...but...if the bombs are on timers why can't i just shoot Balak then go disarm them, win/win
Missile launch - save the residential area
Geth - Rewrite, Legion has given no reason not to trust him.
Quarians - hide the data, discourage war.
ME1 council - save them as paragon, there's thousands on that ship. Focus on Sovereign as renegade, taking down the reaper is most important.
Collector base - destroy it, TiM has not earned my trust.
Rachni - Paragon lets her live, renegade kills her.
Jack/Miranda fight - While Miranda's support of cerberus given the evidence is stupid, Jack's violence because Miranda won't admit it is stupider still. If not enough paragon or renegade to stop the fight properly, side with Miranda. "Too bad Jack" is my feeling exactly.

Honestly the hardest choice for me has been whether to kill the merc on samara's recruitment mission or not, on my first game it wasn't a difficult decision, second time, knowing she's the murderer, i really had to think about it.

I'm anxious to find out how all my trusting decisions could come back to bite me. I mean the most obvious outcome is that these decisions end up recruiting allies for you to fight against the reapers.
-But what if the reapers upload a virus to the geth and I've just bolstered their numbers?
-What if saving the genophage cure data instead of working on a cure right away means that i get help from a krogan army but it could have been much stronger? What if Wrex finds out I'm witholding a cure and the Krogan don't join me at all?
-The rachni queen has already said she'll help when the reapers come, what if her songs are soiled like her mother's were?
-What if cutting ties with TiM and losing Cerberus resources by destroying the base is more harmful than giving him the base? Maybe he's a necessary risk. 

So many possibilities, it'll be nice if all these decisions are interrelated so...say you re-write the heretics, and the quarians ignored your warnings not to go to war, the geth wipe out the quarians and you lose a huge fleet. But if you show them the data to upset Tali, the quarian fleet splits into 2 factions, half of them go to war and are obliterated while half survive to aid you. I'll be pretty disappointed if paragon choices end up being optimal in every way, sometimes your naivety should come back and bite you

[JediHealerCosmin]

In ME1, i have to admit that the first time i was caught completely off-guard with the Virmire decision. It took me over a minute or two until i actually pressed the button. I started to rethink the story from alot of other perspectives, but for some reason, Kaidan was the one to leave behind.

In ME2, deciding what to do with the genophage data. Keeping it and not using it seems like the best conclusion, but i get the feeling that it will be important in ME3  
Then what to do about the geth; during the gameplay i kept remembering what it was like with Saren and his soldiers, then i met Legion and things really changed. I practically pressed the save geth button before i started having doubts. 

Finally, during the Suicide mission, before the phases started (first time ofc).
Which character should i send, what will happen if i leave them alone etc. That was the best

[ebidebby]

The geth rewrite was the most difficult for me. I did rewrite them, but I wonder what will come of that decision in ME3...

[leeboi2]

What class to be...

[SpectreT]

Looks like a big, fat "Me, Too" post here. On any playthrough, I'm always trying to play it out as a "What would I do, if I had Shepard's skills?", so letting that piece of Batarian slime go in BDtS absolutely sucked, but I showed up to save as many lives as I could. That waste of skin will eventually get his; I just have to hope it's before he has a chance to do more harm.



Virmire sucked, too. I wound up saving Ash and Capt. Kirrahe's team - again, saving the most lives.



Sadly, saving the council during Soverign's attack was a no-brainer for me - the political goodwill bought with the lives of Alliance Fleet personnel and ships was too important to the long term. The first Human Spectre simply cannot let the council be destroyed.



Udina or Anderson was another no-brainer. A career politician and proven back-biting jerkwad with one of the most abrasive personalities ever to make it to the highest levels of Galactic politics, or a career soldier with the guts to tell truth to power, a history of making the tough calls and being able to live with the consequenses. (And yes, I always send Anderson to deck Udina. Puts a smile on my face every time.)



ME2 the toughest decision is to save the spaceport or the colonists, and like with the council, I think long-term and sacrifice the colonists for the colony. It's a decision that turned my stomach, but it was the choice that felt least wrong.



Rewriting the Geth wasn't as hard for me as it probably should have been. Talking to Legion helped me develop a profile of the Geth that let me rationalize the decision as returning the dissenters to the body politic so that they could try once more to achieve consensus. It was a Harmony versus Chaos moment for me rather than a Freedom moment.



As to the comments regarding choosing someone to die, well. you really have to try hard to get any of your team killed in the so-called suicide mission. my runthrough was more of a Shepard's crew kicking names and taking butt mission. And if you say EDI should take time with the Reaper IFF, you essentially buy yourself time to activate Legion and do his Loyalty mission so you've got a full crew of unswerving loalty at the end.



And I'm sorry, but handing TIM the Reaper base is without a doubt either the stupidest or single most purely evil thing anyone can do. TIM would have no qualms about annihilating some other race out there to start making his own reapers out of Asari, Turians, Salarians, whatever. TIM may have spent a ton on bringing me back, but if he thinks that'll bring blind obedience, he simply Did Not Do the Research. He needed a true hero, he shouldn't be too surprised when he gets one.

[Jobrill]

Rewriting the Geth was the hardest decision for me. If I rewrite them, I'm engaging in mind control and brain washing, which in itself could give the Geth the wrong idea of how to deal with their problems. If they decide rewriting consent is a proper path to take, they could become the type of horrible, implacable hive mind that always does no-one any good in Sci-fi.



If I kill them, I'm engaging in Genocide.



Neither position is really too morally comfortable.

[Pacifien]

Reading through some of these answers is making me think about what others found to be tough decisions which were incredibly easy for me to make.

Rewrite versus destruction of the Heretics was a no brainer. Rewrite came across as playing God, an indoctrination, a removal of free will. The Heretics made their choice to side with Sovereign, and if that led to their ultimate downfall, so be it. Think of the Collectors: once Prothean, but rewritten by the Reapers. I'd rather die than face such a fate. And rewrite also meant there was the chance the rewritten would come to the same conclusion before and become Heretics all over again. My Shepards are all for second chances, but it has to be an active choice on the other party's part and not something forced upon them.

The genophage data wasn't so much of a no brainer. If my Shepard was willing to destroy the Collector base because it was an abomination, it doesn't seem consistent to keep the genophage data when it was also based on abominable research. But my Shepard always did keep the data. I don't know why.

The first time I did Virmire was a quick decision because I was going to back to protect the nuke no matter who was left there. Since then, I've done a little bit of precognitive maneuvering depending on who I felt like saving during that playthrough.

Saving the Rachni was also an easy decision because my Shepards are not murderers. Sure, it could have led to a disastrous future, but that was some future hero's problem. I'm self-centered like that.

[mosor]

For me it was picking Udina as councilor for my renegade playthough. Sucked hard and you have no option to become a spectre again, but I figure he knows how to smooze with the other council leaders better than anderson to repair the damage I did for decapitating their leadership

[DrunkenGoon]

I'm still not sure what the best choice is to do with the Collector base.. I can see an arguement for both sides.. I just wish I didn't have to hand it over to Cerberus it would make that choice so much easier..

[thegreateski]

"Do I want to wear the blue armor or the red armor?"

[sammcl]

It's interesting seeing people talk about the geth as if they're organic. Themes of genocide and mind control keep popping up. I just don't get that, the geth might be self aware but they are still machines in the end. Geth are mostly hated throughout the galaxy, nobody's gonna look down on you for wiping them out, rewriting them will turn some heads, bolstering the enemy. But in terms of the ethics of mind control i don't think it really matters, geth don't have emotions and the heretics' view is WRONG, not just "different," wrong. That's not to say the geth's view won't be a danger to the galaxy but it might be worth the risk

[The Elite Elite]

sammcl wrote...

It's interesting seeing people talk about the geth as if they're organic. Themes of genocide and mind control keep popping up. I just don't get that, the geth might be self aware but they are still machines in the end. Geth are mostly hated throughout the galaxy, nobody's gonna look down on you for wiping them out, rewriting them will turn some heads, bolstering the enemy. But in terms of the ethics of mind control i don't think it really matters, geth don't have emotions and the heretics' view is WRONG, not just "different," wrong. That's not to say the geth's view won't be a danger to the galaxy but it might be worth the risk

Agreed 100%. They are machines. It's no more mind control to reprogram them than it is to reprogram your computer.

[Pacifien]

The Elite Elite wrote...

sammcl wrote...
It's interesting seeing people talk about the geth as if they're organic. Themes of genocide and mind control keep popping up. I just don't get that, the geth might be self aware but they are still machines in the end. Geth are mostly hated throughout the galaxy, nobody's gonna look down on you for wiping them out, rewriting them will turn some heads, bolstering the enemy. But in terms of the ethics of mind control i don't think it really matters, geth don't have emotions and the heretics' view is WRONG, not just "different," wrong. That's not to say the geth's view won't be a danger to the galaxy but it might be worth the risk

Agreed 100%. They are machines. It's no more mind control to reprogram them than it is to reprogram your computer.

This pretty much lays out the major hurdle in accepting artificial intelligence on equal grounds to an organic. Some, like Admiral Xen, will always view them as inherently a machine and should be treated as such. Some would view sentience as transcending the inorganic state, and so you should treat an artificial intelligence as you would an organic. That's not to say you should automatically assume benevolence with an AI, just as you don't automatically assume such from organics.

Anyway, it's preference. Either they are just a machine or they are sentient.