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[Wishpig]

zahra wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Oh, one other thing here.... I see many people claiming that there was the same   level of  "hate barrage" on these boards when DA:O came out.   My memory must be quite faulty, because I seriously remember something different.  When I joined in the middle of November, I had not purchased DA:O yet and was still on the fence.  I came here to get a sense of what people thought of the game.  I was blown away.    The masses were not saying stuff like  "eh?  It's Ok."  or "hmm.... good game!"

No.  It was more like:  "OMG... this is the best game I ever bought!".  And "wow!  Bioware has outdone itself!", and  "this is better than BG2!".  And to drive the point home... review sites like IGN and Gamespot were giving DA:O scores in the 90s.

The  reception all over the place  was decidedly  different with Awakening.  And you all know it.

I don't put much stalk in Critic reviews.

You keep saying this.  Yet here you are,   citing  these reviews in your OP and  continuing  to cite them in your subsequent posts.  In fact,  your entire argument sees you  using these reviews to argue  how "different"  things are outside of these forums.

lol 

I know, right.

(to be said in the tone of "Enchantment!")

Contradiction!

Well first off, I meant stock not stalk. Just noticed that foolish typo of mine.

2ndly, I don't put much stock doesn't mean I put no stock in them... I focus much more of my attention and place more importance to the user-reviews found on those sites. You might be mistaking my constant referal to gamestop and ign as a refrence to the critic reviews. No, much more powerfull then critic reviews is the user/gamer reviews.

3rdly, I only re-mentioned them because they counter your last claim, aka, your point which drives home.

PS- Zahra you might wanna look up the definition of contradiction. Heres a link...

dictionary.reference.com/browse/Contradiction

I'm no more contradicting myself then someone who doesn't like movie critics stating that How to Train Your Dragon has recieved good reviews. Both are true and independent. While I don't blindly trust critics, they are giving the game good reviews which ties into my point, or rather, my question. As my question is why outside these forums there seems to be a more positive outlook towards the game. The fact awakening has an 8.3 press score on gamestats.com ties into it all.

Nice try to invalidate my points though...

Modifié par Wishpig, 03 avril 2010 - 02:10 .

[Hugmejohnny]

Zahra and yrkoon u just been PWNED. Props to 'pig. Side note enjoying the game!

[Rixxencaxx]

Wishpig wrote...

EDIT- I'm trying to shy away from debaiting the game's problem, although if they relate to your point thats fine. The OP at least, is more focused on why this community gives such negitive feedback compared to many other forums and sites.

DOUBLE EDIT- Up to this point everyone has been very civil and given great responses. I appreciate it!

I've been part of the bioware forums for a long long time longer then even this username (this is my 2nd username... lost the info to my first it's been so long!.)

I don't know whats happened to these forums. I noticed a strange shift when Dragon Age came out. Many prob have forgotten by now, and only the fans really remain, but what Origins was released there was allot of flaming and allot of hate.Then ME2 came out, and jesus christ, if someone based their opinions soley on the forums, one would think ME2 sucked BIG TIME. Of course, save for those extremely close minded, we know Mass Effect 2 sold great and was very well recieved by fans and critics... depsite what the official forums would have you beleave.

Then comes along Awakening. I take critic reviews with a grain of salt. In truth I put far more importance on what the community thinks. Obviously, the community on these forums is pretty split over awakening. Some love, some hate... with no clear majority opinion.

But i noticed something, user reviews on pretty much everyother site I've visted have been without a doubt very positive towards awakening. "Gamer Scores" on ign.com average out to an 8.4 out a mere 66 reviews. Far more impressive is the 8.3 average on gamespot based on an impressive 600+ reviews. THATS ALLOT of people who liked this game.

What gives? Why have these forums become so damn cynical? Once I put faith in these forums, but now I dunno, but ever since ME2 specifically, people seem so negative. I also can't help but notice they attitudes shifted after bioware started making deals with EA... perhaps the cause??? Many seem to think they sold out.

Personally I'm afraid the devs will start to strait out ignore us. It seems that their games are getting impressive praise everywhere but these forums... where they seem to get bashed left and right.

Mah, I know this post will prob draw some major flamage, but it was on my mind, and I wanna see what others think. Why do these forums constantly seem to rip on bioware games, where else where outside these forums they recieve mostly praise.

well...to be straight...600 users rebiews are nothing when discussing about an expansion of a game that sold more than 3 million of copies.
I doubt that awakening sold well, but for sure we will have more news when ea will release its quarterly earnings.
However i noticed that the "april" pack was released for the original companions and this for sure means that bioware knows that the expansion was not well received (not as well as the original...).
In the end i noticed that Mr Gaider appears after every single post  that appreciate the expansion...for me this means "support needed".
ah...i am not an hater....i have bought awakening and stopped playing it after a couple of hours.
Now i am into my fourth run into the original...

[Wishpig]

Rixxencaxx wrote...

well...to be straight...600 users rebiews are nothing when discussing about an expansion of a game that sold more than 3 million of copies.
I doubt that awakening sold well, but for sure we will have more news when ea will release its quarterly earnings.
However i noticed that the "april" pack was released for the original companions and this for sure means that bioware knows that the expansion was not well received (not as well as the original...).
In the end i noticed that Mr Gaider appears after every single post  that appreciate the expansion...for me this means "support needed".
ah...i am not an hater....i have bought awakening and stopped playing it after a couple of hours.
Now i am into my fourth run into the original...

Well... also to be straight... I guess it's unfair on my side to call them user reviews. The 600+ on gamespot is mainly votes rather then fully written reviews.

That said, LONG before Awakening was released Gaider said they didn't have nearly as much money or staff as they did when making Origins, because they were fully aware X-packs don't sell anywhere near as much as origonal games. Especially non-stand alones. Thats just how it works.

YET, even weeks after it's release Awakening is a VERY impressive #2 on gamestats PC GMP guage... this is based off page views and wish-lists. So it is getting allot of attention.

Furthermore, even weeks after it's release, Awakening still tops ME2 on steams top-selling RPG list, coming in at #3 I beleave. Despite ME2 being out for a long time, it is still fairly impressive considering it's an x-pak for a game less popular then ME2.

So, we don't have any sale numbers yet, but apparently popularity is high.

Modifié par Wishpig, 03 avril 2010 - 03:51 .

[Yrkoon]

Wishpig wrote...
 I don't put much stock doesn't mean I put no stock in them... I focus much more of my attention and place more importance to the user-reviews found on those sites. You might be mistaking my constant referal to gamestop and ign as a refrence to the critic reviews. No, much more powerfull then critic reviews is the user/gamer reviews.

You've placed *prime* stock in these critic reviews.    In fact, you've centered your entire argument around them on this thread..  So claiming that you don't put much stock in them is  flat out not true.


And the reason why I keep  harping about this is  because   the comparison you're trying to make between these reviews and the "hostile" nature of this forum   is kinda silly.        Unlike user reviews on IGN, message boards are interactive.  They're designed for debate.   And when a message board houses thousands of debaters with vastly differing opinions,  the very hostility you're  complaining about is going to happen.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 03 avril 2010 - 04:05 .

[Walina]

Wishpig wrote...

EDIT- I'm trying to shy away from debaiting the game's problem, although if they relate to your point thats fine. The OP at least, is more focused on why this community gives such negitive feedback compared to many other forums and sites.

DOUBLE EDIT- Up to this point everyone has been very civil and given great responses. I appreciate it!

I've been part of the bioware forums for a long long time longer then even this username (this is my 2nd username... lost the info to my first it's been so long!.)

I don't know whats happened to these forums. I noticed a strange shift when Dragon Age came out. Many prob have forgotten by now, and only the fans really remain, but what Origins was released there was allot of flaming and allot of hate.Then ME2 came out, and jesus christ, if someone based their opinions soley on the forums, one would think ME2 sucked BIG TIME. Of course, save for those extremely close minded, we know Mass Effect 2 sold great and was very well recieved by fans and critics... depsite what the official forums would have you beleave.

Then comes along Awakening. I take critic reviews with a grain of salt. In truth I put far more importance on what the community thinks. Obviously, the community on these forums is pretty split over awakening. Some love, some hate... with no clear majority opinion.

But i noticed something, user reviews on pretty much everyother site I've visted have been without a doubt very positive towards awakening. "Gamer Scores" on ign.com average out to an 8.4 out a mere 66 reviews. Far more impressive is the 8.3 average on gamespot based on an impressive 600+ reviews. THATS ALLOT of people who liked this game.

What gives? Why have these forums become so damn cynical? Once I put faith in these forums, but now I dunno, but ever since ME2 specifically, people seem so negative. I also can't help but notice they attitudes shifted after bioware started making deals with EA... perhaps the cause??? Many seem to think they sold out.

Personally I'm afraid the devs will start to strait out ignore us. It seems that their games are getting impressive praise everywhere but these forums... where they seem to get bashed left and right.

Mah, I know this post will prob draw some major flamage, but it was on my mind, and I wanna see what others think. Why do these forums constantly seem to rip on bioware games, where else where outside these forums they recieve mostly praise.

Those outside the forum don't provide Bioware any feback or tell tell technicals issues, are they ?

[Yrkoon]

Wishpig wrote...


YET, even weeks after it's release Awakening is a VERY impressive #2 on gamestats PC GMP guage... this is based off page views and wish-lists. So it is getting allot of attention.

Furthermore, even weeks after it's release, Awakening still tops ME2 on steams top-selling RPG list, coming in at #3 I beleave. Despite ME2 being out for a long time, it is still fairly impressive considering it's an x-pak for a game less popular then ME2.

Link?

[Wishpig]

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
 I don't put much stock doesn't mean I put no stock in them... I focus much more of my attention and place more importance to the user-reviews found on those sites. You might be mistaking my constant referal to gamestop and ign as a refrence to the critic reviews. No, much more powerfull then critic reviews is the user/gamer reviews.

You've placed *prime* stock in these critic reviews.    In fact, you've centered your entire argument around them on this thread..  So claiming that you don't put much stock in them is  flat out not true.


And the reason why I keep  harping about this is  because   the comparison you're trying to make between these reviews and the "hostile" nature of this forum   is kinda silly.        Unlike user reviews on IGN, message boards are interactive.  They're designed for debate.   And when a message board houses thousands of debaters with vastly differing opinions,  the very hostility you're  complaining about is going to happen.

In reguards to your first paragraph... I highly suggest you re-read my posts if you beleave this. I use them as examples of outside positive remarks, as I do feel they have some signifigence to my points/questions. Doesn't change the fact I personally take them with a grain of salt. Meaning I would never read an "official" review and base my descion to purchase on it. I would however be persuaded by user opinion. Hard to take a site that makes money off a game seriously in it's review. Perhaps you mistake what I mean. It is a fact it's getting good reviews and it is a fact I do not take critic reviews that seriously. The two can very much exist together.

In reguards to your 2nd paragraph, in the OP I also mentioned penny-arcade forums and the home of the most heated and angry debaits ever... youtube (youtube isn't really a message board, but similar.) From what I've seen on both sites, feedback is FAR more positive then the official forums. I'm curious as to why? I've gotten some good answers so far.

On another note, does this forum really have thousands of debaters? I suppose ALL the forums combined do.

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...


YET,
even weeks after it's release Awakening is a VERY impressive #2 on
gamestats PC GMP guage... this is based off page views and wish-lists.
So it is getting allot of attention.

Furthermore, even weeks
after it's release, Awakening still tops ME2 on steams top-selling RPG
list, coming in at #3 I beleave. Despite ME2 being out for a long time,
it is still fairly impressive considering it's an x-pak for a game less
popular then ME2.

Link?

Sure I should have provided it in the first place, sry.

Heres the most updated list

www.gamestats.com/index/gpm/pc.html

If your curious as to what the GPM is heres the official description...

GPM = "Game Popularity Metric"
This number measures the overall popularity or "buzz" of a game today.
This calculation is based on page views, and on how many times this
game appears on readers' Collections, Wishlists, and Email Alert lists.
Come back and check out the gauges for your most anticipated or
favorite games to see how they measure up!
The arrows to the right of the GPM number tell you whether a game is
gaining or losing popularity. An up arrow means the game's popularity
is on the rise, and the down arrow means its GPM is slipping.

As far as steam goes, your just gonna have to look that up on your own. I'm looking at it right now... Awakaning is top seller #3 in the RPG section. Beneath the new Mount and Blade release and Borderland (just released a new DLC), and right above ME2 and Fall Out 3 game of the year ed.

I honestly don't know how gamesats represent sales, but obviously popularity/intrest is high. And apparently it's selling pretty well on Steam.

Modifié par Wishpig, 03 avril 2010 - 04:28 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

I'm glad it is getting reviews. There were several things in Awakening that annoyed the crap out of me and really could have been improved with little effort. On the whole, however, I don't find it to be the epic fail/end of Bioware as we know it that everyone screams about. If nothing else, I'm looking at Awakenings as playing with/experimenting with some new concepts, maybe new characters for future use. If Awakening sells well and gets enough good reviews, it might bode well for another expansion. Which would be a spiffy idea.



I only hope that Bioware will take into consideration major Awakenings issues (continuity, detachment, convo system and the endless assault of bugs and glitches) and use those to improve upon further expansions and DLC.



But overall, I liked it well enough.

[Lantern]

Here's the thing:

People who activly participate on this forum are probably going to be more discerning than your average joe-blow off the street who picks up a game based on a cool title and blood splattered all over the cover box.

Like many others on this forum, I have been playing RPGs for a *long* time - especially Bioware RPGs. I'll admit I am a die-hard Baldur's Gate 2 fan (still the best RPG ever imo) and I have very high standards about quality.

That being said I feel I am also going to give a fair and balanced review of a game.

DA:O was a good game. Sure there were a few minor problems, but overrall it was very well done.

Awakening was "good" for about 70% of the game and then it just felt rushed. Additionally, there wasn't nearly the same level of party interraction, there were some serious issues I had with the options available to you at the end of the game, and there were some problems associated with difficulty (even on Nightmare, my Arcane Warrior and company walked through the entire game dying maybe once or twice when I wasn't paying attention).

I can't speak for ME2 as I have yet to play it, but I would say that a vast majority of the non-troll experienced gaming community would agree with my reviews.

[Yrkoon]

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...
You've placed *prime* stock in these critic reviews.    In fact, you've centered your entire argument around them on this thread..  So claiming that you don't put much stock in them is  flat out not true.


And the reason why I keep  harping about this is  because   the comparison you're trying to make between these reviews and the "hostile" nature of this forum   is kinda silly.        Unlike user reviews on IGN, message boards are interactive.  They're designed for debate.   And when a message board houses thousands of debaters with vastly differing opinions,  the very hostility you're  complaining about is going to happen.

In reguards to your first paragraph... I highly suggest you re-read my posts if you beleave this. I use them as examples of outside positive remarks,

In other words,  you're using them as  the friggin PREMISE of your   argument...

[Wishpig]

Lantern wrote...

Here's the thing:

People who activly participate on this forum are probably going to be more discerning than your average joe-blow off the street who picks up a game based on a cool title and blood splattered all over the cover box.

Like many others on this forum, I have been playing RPGs for a *long* time - especially Bioware RPGs. I'll admit I am a die-hard Baldur's Gate 2 fan (still the best RPG ever imo) and I have very high standards about quality.

That being said I feel I am also going to give a fair and balanced review of a game.

DA:O was a good game. Sure there were a few minor problems, but overrall it was very well done.

Awakening was "good" for about 70% of the game and then it just felt rushed. Additionally, there wasn't nearly the same level of party interraction, there were some serious issues I had with the options available to you at the end of the game, and there were some problems associated with difficulty (even on Nightmare, my Arcane Warrior and company walked through the entire game dying maybe once or twice when I wasn't paying attention).

I can't speak for ME2 as I have yet to play it, but I would say that a vast majority of the non-troll experienced gaming community would agree with my reviews.

This is pretty much what I figured...

And your review seems pretty fair and the kind of opinion I would trust. Neither driven by fanboyness nor nerdrage.

And yes, BG2 ftw! Although Origins and the Witcher come in close 2nds to me.

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...
You've
placed *prime* stock in these critic reviews.    In fact, you've
centered your entire argument around them on this thread..  So claiming
that you don't put much stock in them is  flat out not true.


And
the reason why I keep  harping about this is  because   the comparison
you're trying to make between these reviews and the "hostile" nature of
this forum   is kinda silly.        Unlike user reviews on IGN, message boards are interactive. 
They're designed for debate.   And when a message board houses
thousands of debaters with vastly differing opinions,  the very
hostility you're  complaining about is going to happen.

In
reguards to your first paragraph... I highly suggest you re-read my
posts if you beleave this. I use them as examples of outside positive
remarks,

In other words,  you're using them as  the friggin PREMISE of your   argument...

Jesus dude... enough.

Reread my posts as they (the "official" reviews) are by NO MEANS the premise of my argument. My premise is opinion outside this forum compared to inside this forum. ALL opinion outside this forum that includes official reviews. I've tried to focus on user reviews more then critic reviews. But critic reviews are being more and more brought to the forefront soley because of this little back and forth between me and you. If you don't see that then I dunno what to tell you.

Modifié par Wishpig, 03 avril 2010 - 04:43 .

[I saved Star Wars :D]

OP: In my view, there are several factors at work here.

Firstly, some legitimate concerns around bugs and the time taken to fix them.

Secondly, some people are very heavily emotionally invested in Dragon Age and its expansions (and in some cases I would suggest that gaming as an activity is far too important a part of their lives.)

Thirdly, partly due to previous quality products and partly due to marketing hype, some people still hoild these games to account against some kind of imaginary, incredibly high, standard of quality, rather than against its competitors (which is a much fairer standard.)

For some people, all three factors are at work. Gaming is the most (or one of the most) important things in their lives (or at least their absolutely favoured recreation activity.) They expect it to deliver a never ending, awe inspiring and life changing experience and are therefore inevitably dissapointed.

The stream of negativity on these forums (where the most heavily invested players choose to reside) is matched only by the clamour for more content/sequels/DLC. I would suggest that this is evidence enough of the conclusion that I am drawing. On other forums, you are probably seeing the reactions of more moderate players who, like me, bought a game and thought it was a good game. Nothing more, nothing less.

I then bought an expansion pack and thought it was good. Nothing more, nothing less.

For others, this isn't just a game. The frustration and anger that they feel when it doesn't work exactly as intended, or it does but that intention is not what they wanted or expected, is very very real.

(Clearly, I don't know any of the people in question personally. This is just my gut feel for what is happening for some people.)

Finally, the Christina Norman effect. She quoted two thread titles on the presentation she made about ME2, which was then published all over the internet. I am sure that there are people posting rage threads in the hope that it might be quoted by some Bioware Dev in a future presentation.

Modifié par Daveyboy154, 03 avril 2010 - 04:39 .

[Yrkoon]

Wishpig wrote...
 Neither driven by fanboyness nor nerdrage.

Wishpig wrote...
Jesus dude... enough.

^Behold folks.    I think this says it all.  Guy does a thread complaining about the Hostile, immature  nature of the forums, yet after 4 pages, HE'S the one   spouting stuff like this.

I do love me some good Irony.

My 'Nerd Rage' thanks you!

Modifié par Yrkoon, 03 avril 2010 - 04:50 .

[Wishpig]

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
 Neither driven by fanboyness nor nerdrage.

Wishpig wrote...
Jesus dude... enough.

^Behold folks.    I think this says it all.  Guy does a thread complaining about the Hostile, immature  nature of the forums, yet after 4 pages, HE'S the one   spouting stuff like this.

Oh the Irony!

Ya, I think you've helped me understand why people are negitive on these forums more then anything... thank you <_<

Hard not to get frustrated when people keep trying to force words down your throat.

Modifié par Wishpig, 03 avril 2010 - 04:49 .

[Yrkoon]

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
 Neither driven by fanboyness nor nerdrage.

Wishpig wrote...
Jesus dude... enough.

^Behold folks.    I think this says it all.  Guy does a thread complaining about the Hostile, immature  nature of the forums, yet after 4 pages, HE'S the one   spouting stuff like this.

Oh the Irony!

Ya, I think you've helped me understand why people are negitive on these forums more then anything... thank you <_<

Self discovery is always a good thing.  You're welcome.

[Wishpig]

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
 Neither driven by fanboyness nor nerdrage.

Wishpig wrote...
Jesus dude... enough.

^Behold folks.    I think this says it all.  Guy does a thread complaining about the Hostile, immature  nature of the forums, yet after 4 pages, HE'S the one   spouting stuff like this.

Oh the Irony!

Ya, I think you've helped me understand why people are negitive on these forums more then anything... thank you <_<

Self discovery is always a good thing.  You're welcome.

I'm glad you seem to get pleasure out of rilling people up. When you countinue to undermine people and comment w/o even reading their posts or trying to understand what they mean. Well then it's not gonna end pretty. Well thats that, I'm ending this back and forth. Tried to explain myself to you, but I can only imagine this is the kinda response you wanted. Well, I won't play into your little trap anymore. 

EDIT- Took out the troll comment, name calling ain't nice, and would further your *cough* "victory."

Modifié par Wishpig, 03 avril 2010 - 05:02 .

[Yrkoon]

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
 Neither driven by fanboyness nor nerdrage.

Wishpig wrote...
Jesus dude... enough.

^Behold folks.    I think this says it all.  Guy does a thread complaining about the Hostile, immature  nature of the forums, yet after 4 pages, HE'S the one   spouting stuff like this.

Oh the Irony!

Ya, I think you've helped me understand why people are negitive on these forums more then anything... thank you <_<

Self discovery is always a good thing.  You're welcome.

I'm glad you seem to get pleasure out of rilling people up. When you countinue to undermine people and comment w/o even reading their posts or trying to understand what they mean. Well then it's not gonna end pretty.

EDIT- Took out the troll comment, name calling ain't nice.

People?  So now you consider yourself a legion?  I've  disagreed with a grand total of ONE person on this thread:  You.  And my reason for doing so is plain for all to see:  This entire thread of yours is  nothing but your own personal  **** fest about  about how "bad" this forum has become.

And you didn't need me to "rile" you up.   You were riled up   in your very first post on this thread.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 03 avril 2010 - 05:04 .

[Hugmejohnny]

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
 Neither driven by fanboyness nor nerdrage.

Wishpig wrote...
Jesus dude... enough.

^Behold folks.    I think this says it all.  Guy does a thread complaining about the Hostile, immature  nature of the forums, yet after 4 pages, HE'S the one   spouting stuff like this.

Oh the Irony!

Ya, I think you've helped me understand why people are negitive on these forums more then anything... thank you <_<

Self discovery is always a good thing.  You're welcome.

I'm glad you seem to get pleasure out of rilling people up. When you countinue to undermine people and comment w/o even reading their posts or trying to understand what they mean. Well then it's not gonna end pretty.

EDIT- Took out the troll comment, name calling ain't nice.

People?  So now you consider yourself a legion?  I've  disagreed with a grand total of ONE person on this thread:  You.  And my reason for doing so is plain for all to see:  This entire thread of yours is  nothing but your own personal whine about this forum.

And you didn't need me to "rile" you up.   You were riled up   in your very first post on this thread.

Get out while you can 'pig. Ignore the troll. You want to know why these forums are negitive? It's cause of fellas like Yrkoon. I bet he gets off to pissing people off. He's just upset ya beat him at every turn . He's just trying to work you up so he looks like less of a fool for responding to posts w/o reading them.

 

Modifié par Hugmejohnny, 03 avril 2010 - 05:20 .

[mousestalker]

I've stayed away from most of these threads for a variety of reasons. I do not dislike Awakening. I like most of the new companions quite a lot. I enjoyed the puzzles. The skills are interesting.



My problems with Awakening have to do with more and less. Specifically I think I paid too much for what I received. If I had it for free, then my review would be glowing. But for $40 (US) i thought the quality of the expansion and the game time were lacking. It should have either had more content or cost less.



From what I have read, that seems to be the consensus amongst those who were disappointed by the expansion. This being the Internet, that dissatisfaction is not expressed by a calm and rational statement but rather by 'Teh expansion is teh suxxor and so iz Bioware". Also being an expansion it is inevitably compared to Origins which delivered terrific value for the money.



So there.

[Vuokseniska]

well to be honest some gamers here are welll 12-15(or extreme right wing conservative screaming we don't want change!)? those are the gamers that cry wolf very fast,



The game was just a mini origines... i really have no complaints about the content and what it have to offer. Yes it has some bugs... but meh... most games when being sold have bugs...

[Xtrabg33]

Get out while you can 'pig. Ignore the troll. You want to know why these forums are negitive? It's cause of fellas like Yrkoon. I bet he gets off to pissing people off. He's just upset ya beat him at every turn . He's just trying to work you up so he looks like less of a fool for responding to posts w/o reading them.

 

LOL! EPIC PICTURE. I gotta use that!

Modifié par Xtrabg33, 03 avril 2010 - 05:26 .

[Yrkoon]

Hugmejohnny wrote...
 You want to know why these forums are negitive? It's cause of fellas like Yrkoon.

No.  I take *sole* responsibility for the  Hostile, trollish, nature  of this forum and the cesspool it has apparently become.  There's no "fellas" like me.

If you don't mind, now, I'm going to 'sig"   this.  It deserves permanency.  And the throngs of innocent posters like yourself need to be made aware of the  E-malificar-troll that dwells amongst them.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 03 avril 2010 - 05:35 .

[Hugmejohnny]

Yrkoon wrote...

Self discovery is always a good thing.

Yrkoon wrote...
No.  I take *sole* responsibility for the  Hostile, trollish, nature  of this forum and the cesspool it has apparently become.  There's no "fellas" like me.

Indeed! But I am honored I took part in your sig! You've made enough of a fool of yourself and proved why these forums are immature. You can go and spread annoyance elsewhere. Let me return the favor though with my sig!

Modifié par Hugmejohnny, 03 avril 2010 - 05:49 .

[Wishpig]

Ok you two... I appreciate the defense Hugme, and I'm glad it ended on a somewhat humorous note, we've strayed FAR from topic. Lets stumble back on course before this thread gets closed.

Vuokseniska wrote...

well to be honest some gamers here are welll 12-15(or extreme right wing conservative screaming we don't want change!)? those are the gamers that cry wolf very fast,

The game was just a mini origines... i really have no complaints about the content and what it have to offer. Yes it has some bugs... but meh... most games when being sold have bugs...

I haven't thought about the age factor. Although I can't imagine it being that different then IGN's or Gamespots. In fact, I would guess the age group tends to be higher on these forums.

Although, the more I think about it, the more I think the bugs may be a major cause of the unrest on these forums. I think someone brought it up before... when people have a game breaking bug they often go to the official forums which brings more unsatysfied people here. I wouldn't be surprised if that plays a big factor!

Modifié par Wishpig, 03 avril 2010 - 06:08 .