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[WARDEN9652]

^^ im sorry but you broke my brain

edit: im adding that line to my sig lol

Modifié par WARDEN9652, 05 avril 2010 - 06:38 .

[MOTpoetryION]

^^ agree now mines broke too

[OneBadAssMother]

Have full intention to purchase Awakening, but later. Releasing it so soon after ME2 in my opinion was a bit un-wise. I'm still shocked at the negative reviews, but I have been blessed by balanced reviews in a previous thread I made - which now makes me plan to buy it.



Getting drunk and shooting up folks in ME2 however - that will take time to die down.

[Gaius Octavian]

WARDEN9652 wrote...

^^ im sorry but you broke my brain

edit: im adding that line to my sig lol

ahem, atleast quoute me on it in your sig :[

[MOTpoetryION]

Gaius Octavian wrote...

I pose to you all a question to ponder.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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please, for my own well being  as well as others can you please translate this into something that has any meaning  or shows a rational thought process just a little

[WARDEN9652]

^^ lol im sorry for this being off topic to the rest of the thread but yes ive read it like 20 times now and cant help but laugh

Modifié par WARDEN9652, 05 avril 2010 - 06:55 .

[Gaius Octavian]

MOTpoetryION wrote...

Gaius Octavian wrote...

I pose to you all a question to ponder.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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please, for my own well being  as well as others can you please translate this into something that has any meaning  or shows a rational thought process just a little

I shall consider it. For now I think I'll allow you all to ponder its true meaning and in doing so find nirvana. Or something to that effect.

[Gaius Octavian]

I'm tired. Goodnight.



Shameless double post.

[flem1]

Wishpig wrote...

I think the problem was they didn't give themselves enough time for bug testing.

The problem is that they had no intention of producing a product of the quality of the original.  Compare this to the last Bio expansion (HotU), which was the *best product of the series* by far (and at rather less than 4/5 of the cost).

Accept this as EA inevitability or not, but Awakening is the product of a shift almost designed to offend the offensible parts of the community.

Wishpig wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

People
continue to advocate  the diplomat approach, as if we're sitting in an
office talking to a human being across the room from us.  We are NOT. 
We're trying to get through to a massive corporation.  You don't
"construtively criticise' a sightless,  faceless entity.  You light a
fire under its ass  until it takes notice.

I certainly
see what you mean, but I wouldn't call them a faceless enity... I mean a
dev, one of the top devs, just responded to you. We can put a voice, if
not a face to bioware.

Unfortunately, David -- while excellent at what he does -- is basically powerless to fix what are top-level business decisions.  The products of the post-release team aren't meant to excel, and aren't going to be allowed the resources and commitment to allow them to excel.

And I hate to say it, but screaming works, and has worked.  Look at DA/ME2 DRM...

Lets take ME2 for example,

Let's not.  ME2 was pure awesome on a disc, the product of a thorough commitment to a particular vision of excellent gameplay.  Now a lot of crusty folks disagreed with this vision, but they were fairly quickly marginalized in the forum consensus because, well, it's obvious how much care and polish were lavished on its realization.

ME2 won't leave anyone feeling like an emptied ATM.

Modifié par flem1, 05 avril 2010 - 07:33 .

[OneBadAssMother]

HotU had a TON of bugs. But it was forgivable due to the incredible story/gameplay/new features. Reminds me of ToB.



Bah, you folks are making me wanna pick up Awakening right now just to see what all this fuss is about.

[Boredmad]

OneBadAssMother wrote...

HotU had a TON of bugs. But it was forgivable due to the incredible story/gameplay/new features. Reminds me of ToB.

Bah, you folks are making me wanna pick up Awakening right now just to see what all this fuss is about.

The cause of much of the fuss in my opinion or at least the legitimate fuss is the bugs, a change in game machanics, and the like that's merely been enhanced because of the bugs still unfixed in Dragon Age Origins. I have seen some fuss over DLC equipement that doesn't transfer over, but that was already stated as happening. Dragon Age Origins: Awakening seems rushed no doubt causing more ruckus. Then ultimately like what I've seen in other examples though to a lesser extent since those franchises were taken over by other developers where in this case EA's involvement with Bioware has made a dark shadow over the developer to many individuals.

Dragon Age Origins: Awakening is a rather entertaining addition, but many don't think it was quite worth the money they paid for it, for which I'd agree I enjoyed the game, but some what wished I'd waited tell it went down a little before buying it. I believe that a lot of fuss is also from individuals having too high of an expectations for the title.

[Boredmad]

Sorry double post.

Modifié par Boredmad, 05 avril 2010 - 08:26 .

[OneBadAssMother]

Yes, this is what I've heard too from other fans, hence me and my wife's decision to wait it out for a bit. At least we're still too awestruck with ME2 to even notice that DA:O has an expansion heh.



Interesting feedback however, seems like a love/hate thing, some fans go "I HATE IT", other fans make threads praising the game. Thanks for your honest opinion, it's hard sometimes to find especially on these forums heh.

[terrordactyl1]

Dragon Age Origins, the DLC and Awakening makes for a fantastic product overall. I've had 150-200 hours of pleasure from the overall package - it's cost me around £60 all in. That works out to 30p for every hour of fun I have had.



Yes, it has a few bugs....some of them are a little annoying and immersion breaking.



Hopefully, Bioware will fix them soon. I very much hope that happens before further DLC is released, as that would be the ethical way to run a company.



Nevertheless, some of the hateful and flaming posts on this forum are ridiculous. It's almost like a witchhunt at times. So, we have a game with a few bugs, yet some folks post on here with insults that would be suitably aimed at a serial killer or pedofile.



Keep it in perspective, it's a video game with a few bugs. No one shot your dog.

[toronto13]

It,s not good as DAO but then again this is expansion,not a standalone game,it felt like Orzammar quest in reality,there was more fighting and less dialogue(something that is not my taste) and I didn't like how companions were handled,you never get chance to know them beter or to develop relationships  simular to those in DAO,I mean,you get to care about your old companinons,you like them,you get to know them and the way they were presented to you in game was memorable,they are not just killing machines like the ones in DAO A.But in the end it was a game that I would place behind DAO and Mass Effect 2.

Modifié par toronto13, 05 avril 2010 - 10:49 .

[Srau]

Well this expac is buged and the 1.03 patch somewhat broke some of the original game but i have no doubt the team will release patchs to correct that.

Of course it also has things i do not like (Oghren, Mahiri's death, lack of chances to pursue romances, more dwarven ruins, etc ...) but those are my feelings, and that's just it : personnal feeling, and to be honest they did not prevent me to have fun continuing the adventures of my warden(s).

And i guess (and hope !) that was one of the goals : make a game where players are having fun.

For both good times in front of my screen and reading the books, Mr Gaider and DA team, i thank you ! <3

Modifié par Srau, 05 avril 2010 - 11:49 .

[Bryy_Miller]

Finiffa wrote...

Game forums will always sway towards the negative. It is simple really. If you like the game then you play it and maybe visit the forums for advice, discussions or give praise. If you don't like the game you probably go the forum and complain. It is the same on every game forum I ever visited.
This doesnt mean that the complainers are always wrong. If you cannot finish the game because of bugs then you have every right to explain.

Here is usually how is goes:
1 game announced, everyone rejoices
2 people start giving their views of how the game MUST be and SHOULD be
3 devs release some information
4 some people start complaining because its different from their view of the game
5 repeat step 3 and 4 several times
6 game is released
7 repeat step 4 BIG time

Dont forget that the MAJORITY of the people buying and playing the game either never visit forums or never bother to post there. They just look for information and news and thats it. So the vocal minority staying are the usually most negative ones.

I just watched Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution for the first time, and was reminded of the Bio Boards. 

[Gaius Octavian]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?



Have you pondered it and found the answer yet?

[StuartMarshall]

I paid £16.99 for my copy of Awakenings, which is US$26 and I felt it was worth every penny for that price. Those who call it a glorified DLC are a bit over the top, the game can easily last 13 to 15 hours played at a leisurely pace and that is longer than many full release games nowadays, such as the world famous Modern Warfare 2.

The expansion to me expanded the world in a satisfying way and in some ways improved over the main game, with some interesting protagonists AND antagonists and a sense of "What is happening here?" in terms of the storyline. Honestly, I found the "bad guys" more interesting than in Origins, especially The Architect, a fascinating character.

The expansion does fall short in some departments, such as the bizarre non-compatibility with most DA:O DLC (I entered my first battle all but naked, as the Blood Dragon Armour didn't carry over) and the feeling that it was maybe slightly rushed, with some really bad bugs and glitches, but I was immersed and satisfied by both the length and content for what I paid. I'm also glad they are thoroughly exploring Ferelden before moving on to other regions.

I think Ferelden is pretty well explored now but DLCs could maybe "complete" it for now: a Highever DLC which would be especially cool for human nobles. Something set in Gwaren which I believe may be the only unlocked city of note in Ferelden? And possibly general expansions of areas such as the Kocari Wilds, Deep Roads, Brecilian Passage, and Hinterlands.

I think a "Once upon a time..." DLC based around Duncan and a party of Grey Wardens could be amazing too! Sort of like "The Hobbit" to DA:O and A's "Lord of the Rings".

Modifié par StuartMarshall, 06 avril 2010 - 01:26 .

[Sabriana]

Awakening is a cute little game. Watched a few play-throughs, played one on my friend's computer, and I will buy it.

Later. When the price is down, and when the bugs are fixed. Also, I will in no way, shape, or form tempt the fates by inflicting the 1.03 bug-festival onto my computer and risk breaking my favorite game in the process. That game being DA:O.

Rating: 6.5/10. Subject to change a tad, if/when bug-fixes come out and are proven to work.

[Yrkoon]

Sabriana wrote...

Awakening is a cute little game. Watched a few play-throughs, played one on my friend's computer, and I will buy it.
Later. When the price is down, and when the bugs are fixed. Also, I will in no way, shape, or form tempt the fates by inflicting the 1.03 bug-festival onto my computer and risk breaking my favorite game in the process. That game being DA:O. 
  

But since  you can't  run Awakening without patch 1.03,  I'd say yes,  you will indeed have to wait until they  do some bug  squashing.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 avril 2010 - 03:09 .

[StuartMarshall]

... and hopefully that is soon. I've had to abandon my third playthrough, 1.03 has -destroyed- the playability of it for me. I don't understand why though, as it was fine the past few days, just today the crashes have been severe (coinciding with my entrance into Denerim, trying to work out if that has anything to do with it - can anyone with the problem tell me if Denerim is worse than elsewhere for it?).

[Sabriana]

Indeed, Yrkoon, indeed. And quite a happy coincidence it is. The price for the cute little game will have come down by then. I view it as a win/win situation for me.



Denerim is always a quite laggy for me Stuart, and it's the only area in-game that behaves this way. I play on a PC, so it's hard to pin that down, as we all know on a PC it's more or less that YMMV. I wish you luck, hopefully someone will have an idea how to help you with that. Bummer.

[yasuraka.hakkyou]

I haven't personally had too many problems with Awak. (PC) so far, but I can understand why people are wanting to burn it at the stake. this may turn into a review or something of Awak...

Many people don't like how the conversation system changed, me included. the companions feel shallow, and some conversations make more sense at camp / Vigil's Keep then out in the wilderness / town / what have you. I kinda like the new system, just not that it replaced the old system.

In general, the bugs and glitches in both Origins and Awak are getting on people's nerves. the base game has been out close to half a year and there are still bugs from Origins launch that haven't been fixed, to my knowledge. I don't know how that compares to other games and going from buggy launches to patch days, though. Instead of working on that, Bioware has just been crankin' out DLC and the like. I half see it as a rushed money grab so that Bioware can stay in the game producing market. "Who cares if its buggy as f--- we need to make money so EA doesn't fire all our rears", perhaps. Bioware staff keep saying that EA being their parent company nowadays hasn't affected them, but I don't believe it.
- For examples, the Vigilance / Starfang bug. I've seen a few screenshots, and it does look BA. but because we, ya know, supported Bioware by purchasing Warden's Keep, we get to look at Starfang again when most players weren't able to transfer it. The Blood Power abilities were supposed to transfer, but they didn't for non-modders, so that's either a lie or bad testing on Bioware's part.
- Quest bugs. I've heard about not being able to do Sigrun's personal quest because you did another quest beforehand, and I've heard about the Silverite Mine screwing people over with items and such.
- Items. Kinda related to Vigl. / Sfang, but in general, items that are supposed to be in game (DAO and DAA) aren't there or are bugged. Ancient Elven Boots, the uber set of rogue armor in Awak...once again, bad testing or something on Bioware's part.

Overall, it might be because we on the forums actually have some form of direct line to Bioware, even if they don't respond quickly / all the time, and so, since only the fans are left as the OP said, we criticize the game heavily because we want to see our metaphorical baby become big and strong. that, and a lot of gamers out there are probably from the shooters crowd, so as long as the story isn't retarded and there is plenty of blood on the screen, they're happy.

[Wishpig]

WARDEN9652 wrote...

^^ im sorry but you broke my brain

edit: im adding that line to my sig lol

This thread is so epic that three people have new sigs because of it.