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[Cypher0020]

That was going to be my all time fav class to pick..... dwarf rogue commoner.... but every single time I try to start a romance with a dwarf, I keel under the pressure and scrap the character

They're just soo.... short..... and I dunno... I love the culture, the concept of dust town, the nobles fueding..... but for some reason..... I cannot play as a dwarf..... but really really wanna see how a Zev romance turns out


Sooo..... who here has completed a dwarf run? which orgin? class? romance?


Post dwarf pics and.or background infomation 


Dwarf Fans Unite

Modifié par Cypher0020, 30 avril 2010 - 01:58 .

[Efesell]

I enjoy playing as a Dwarf but they always remain single.

[Leo]

beat it with a dwarf noble recently, and he is a ladies man.

[ejoslin]

Awwww, I love romancing Zevran with a dwarf. They're really not that short!

[Cuddlezarro]

finished 2 dwarfs (1 noble and 1 casteless) and started another casteless

all 3 of them romance zevran... though my original casteless romanced leliena until i got sick of her and lopped her head off at the ashes

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 03 avril 2010 - 01:12 .

[Brutus2]

My character I went through Origins and Awakening with is a Dwarf commoner rogue and he is awesome.  I found both dwarf commoner and dwarf noble origin stories to be really entertaining.   I romanced Morrigan in Origins and didn't find anything wierd about it.  I did not take her offer at the end though (poor Alistar).  In fact the main reason why I have only done one full playthrough is that I don't want to play a warrior and Dwarves cant be mages.  I don't see any point playing again with the same character but I don't want to play anything else

[Cypher0020]

@Cuddlezarro



How could you kill off Leliana??! O___o



@Brutus



Really you didn't do the ritual? How could you kill of Alistair! Waaah!



What was your rogue's skills? Mine maxed out coecerin and I think it was combat expertise......

[Nerdage]

Nope. I'm not sure why because dwarf noble is my favourite origin but I always run out of enthusiasm for my dwarf characters by Lothering, I guess it's because I have a hard time justifying a do-gooder dwarf, which is how I always seem to play, I can't seem to help it.

[Cuddlezarro]

@Cuddlezarro







How could you kill off Leliana??! O___o

quite easily

[Sarah1281]

When I played a DC I romanced Alistair but when it came time for the Post-Landsmeet break-up I couldn't have her be his mistress. Yes, being a concubine for Bhelen was Rica's happy ending and more than she'd ever thought she could achieve while living under Beraht's thumb but the DC had just settled not one, but TWO succession disputes, saved the mages from themselves, found a legendary human artifact (Leske calling Andraste their version of a Paragon really made my character GET the Andraste obsession for the first time), saved the elves and the werewolves and is basically a walking, talking miracle worker. Why should she have to settle for the best a casteless could aspire to in Orzammar when she had come so far past that? So she ended the game alone.

My DN was focused on finding Gorim as she didn't feel it was appropriate to begn another relationship without at least getting some resolution on her previous one (and really would have appreciated that same courtesy) and once she found out Gorim had not only gotten horribly injured - or so he says but I didn't hear him mentioning anything about that at the end when he offers to be her second once again - but he'd gotten married and was going to become a father in less than a year (and when the path goes from Lothering to Denerim it is much, much less than a year) she's heartbroken and isn't looking for another relationship right off the bat. By the time she starts to move on, she's in Orzammar and resolving her lingering legal issues. Since she plans to return home now that she can, she elects not to pursue a romance as they couldn't really follow her to Orzammar and she wanted to go back more than she wanted Alistair/Leliana/Zevran.

So yeah, my dwarf characters don't really have much luck in the romance department.

Nope. I'm not sure why because dwarf noble is my favourite origin but I always run out of enthusiasm for my dwarf characters by Lothering, I guess it's because I have a hard time justifying a do-gooder dwarf, which is how I always seem to play, I can't seem to help it.

You could always decide to make some 'good' decisions as part of your PR campaign. Loghain keeps trying to smear you so the more good you do the less effective it will be. Sparing the mages doesn't have to be because you care about them but because you think that they'd be more effective than the Templars in battle (except maybe against the emissaries, and helping out among the Dalish gets them to trust you more and be more willing to honor the treaties. I don't think either dwarf origin has to be evil, just the DC is too desensitized to poverty to obsessively fix everything and the DN will try and do what is ultimately best for them without letting sentiment interfere much.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 03 avril 2010 - 01:34 .

[Gilsa]

I was a little skeptical of romancing any of my dwarves, but Alistair really won my dwarf noble over when I had to option to ask him about his falling for a dwarf and his response was that her height wasn't an issue and he was actually worried he was too tall for her. I just appreciated how the dwarf wasn't considered the freak. I think he uses a different response towards the commoner.

As for the dwarf commoner, I had one game where she went for an Alistair romance. I thought they didn't groove as well considering how different their backgrounds were, but she had the best rags-to-riches ending. The game starts out with two sisters wondering if they'll ever get out of Dust Town and ended with Rica being the mistress of a dwarven king and the commoner being the mistress of the human king. Two street rats done good! =p

In my most recent commoner game, I played her without any romances, which is how I preferred it. Actually roleplayed her as pining away for Oghren, but with that whole Felsi mess in Awakening, yick, bloom is off the rose now.

And finally, I've played a dwarf (and gnome) for many, many years and have built a career on mocking elves and even hunting them down in pvp battlegrounds. (It's all in good fun.) I'm not about to romance the elf on any of my dwarves because I would nevah evah hear the end of it from the people I've tormented over the years.

And don't sweat the romance thing for the dwarf. I love pulling out this ancient quote from David Gaider:

And I'm not sure why everyone is so concerned about dwarf romances. If you're playing a dwarf and you think it's weird, then my suggestion would be not to romance anyone. One day, however, we WILL do a dwarf-specific romance. I swear it.

http://forums.biowar...orum=135&sp=105

Modifié par Gilsa, 03 avril 2010 - 01:34 .

[RavenousBear]

My first character was a DC male rogue. Without reading the forums and such for builds, he had a build on that was mostly strength, dex, and some cun but I managed to get by with no major hassles.

He did many good decisions like siding with the mages and ending the werewolf curse, he also made some questionable decisions like working for the Crows (from Carta thug to assassin is not such a major leap), siding with the despot Bhelen though he did it for Rica and her child.

For romances, he originally romanced with Leliana, then broke it up after hearing too much about her beloved Maker. Somehow, Zevran was in a romance with my character so he was told to crawl back to his tent. That opened up a romance with Morrigan who seemed to have a bit a common with my dwarf though they had many differences; survivor of a bad environment, independent, and  not a believer of the "Maker".

In the end, he gladly did the "ritual" with her though vowed to find her again someday.

[Gilsa]

@Sarah1281 -- I totally agree with you on Gorim. He leaves me scratching my head at the coronation ceremony because he's ready to just up and return to Ozrammar. Doesn't even address his wife/child or his father-in-law living in Denerim (well, considering the city is all askew now, it probably makes sense), but I thought he was so much happier being a surfacer, why would he want to go back to Ozrammar after all this?

Hey, I found an interesting thread with David Gader talking about human and dwarf mating and how it probably would be a stigma in Ozrammar if there was a half-dwarf child as a result. I will find the thread and edit my post with the link. I don't know if you've seen it, but it's an interesting read!

Edit: Found the link. The thread is only five pages long so it should be relatively easy to find all of DG's comments. Trying to return to Ozrammar as a DN that sided with Harrowmont would probably have a hard time vying to be queen especially with a human romance in tow, no?

http://social.biowar.../index/575146/1

Modifié par Gilsa, 03 avril 2010 - 01:51 .

[Sarah1281]

I totally agree with you on Gorim. He leaves me scratching my head at the coronation ceremony because he's ready to just up and return to Ozrammar. Doesn't even address his wife/child or his father-in-law living in Denerim (well, considering the city is all askew now, it probably makes sense), but I thought he was so much happier being a surfacer, why would he want to go back to Ozrammar after all this?

I think he's just in denial because due to his wife and (possibly) wounded leg he can't join her so he's pretending he's happy up there. Even if you decide to stay on the Surface he can't wait for a chance to be a noble. It never occured to me that his family might not have made it...then again I probably hate his wife more than is strictly necessary for someoe I've never met. At least he only calls her a 'good woman' instead of 'lovely' if you romanced him.



And is it just me or does the Oghren-Gorim meeting where Oghren calls Gorim the DN's personal bootlicker and then mocks him for being a merchant make him infinitely less likeable no matter what the origin? I don't care if I'm not DN at the time: Gorim deserves better.

Hey, I found an interesting thread with David Gader talking about human and dwarf mating and how it probably would be a stigma in Ozrammar if there was a half-dwarf child as a result. I will find the thread and edit my post with the link. I don't know if you've seen it, but it's an interesting read!

That would be amazing. Because there's no half-dwarves in the game, people always assume that a dwarf-human baby would be human and I would love proof that it wouldn't.

[Gilsa]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I totally agree with you on Gorim. He leaves me scratching my head at the coronation ceremony because he's ready to just up and return to Ozrammar. Doesn't even address his wife/child or his father-in-law living in Denerim (well, considering the city is all askew now, it probably makes sense), but I thought he was so much happier being a surfacer, why would he want to go back to Ozrammar after all this?

I think he's just in denial because due to his wife and (possibly) wounded leg he can't join her so he's pretending he's happy up there. Even if you decide to stay on the Surface he can't wait for a chance to be a noble. It never occured to me that his family might not have made it...then again I probably hate his wife more than is strictly necessary for someoe I've never met. At least he only calls her a 'good woman' instead of 'lovely' if you romanced him.

He really seemed to be full of regret when you run into him again. I couldn't hold it against him for moving on with his life when destiny had placed my noble on a different path as well.

And is it just me or does the Oghren-Gorim meeting where Oghren calls Gorim the DN's personal bootlicker and then mocks him for being a merchant make him infinitely less likeable no matter what the origin? I don't care if I'm not DN at the time: Gorim deserves better.

I had wondered why that scene didn't trigger for the DN with Oghren in the group, but I figured Oghren knew his place with the DN around.  I didn't dwell on it too much as the commoner because Gorim wasn't really treating her any better and didn't care what Oghren was saying to him. My memory is hazy, but didn't the DN have the option of saying, "The Gorim I knew once hated surfacers!" (something like that).

That would be amazing. Because there's no half-dwarves in the game, people always assume that a dwarf-human baby would be human and I would love proof that it wouldn't.

Heh, the thread says dwarf + elf = dwarf child. Dwarf + human = tall dwarf or short human and that they didn't have the money to create that kind of model for the game.

[Mlai00]

Cypher0020 wrote...
@Cuddlezarro
How could you kill off Leliana??! O___o

Go read that "Getting Laid In the Fade" forum thread in General Disc.
You'll get the urge to lop some Chantry heads off, too.
[rolling head emoticon]

[Sarah1281]

He really seemed to be full of regret when you run into him again. I couldn't hold it against him for moving on with his life when destiny had placed my noble on a different path as well.

I just wish he hadn't felt the need to move on quite so quickly. Then again, I suppose that to be fair he was a warrior who knew nothing about being a merchant and even less about being a smith so if he wanted to survive marrying into a powerful surface-merchant family (and Felsi said the Denerim merchant dwarves were just as bad as Orzammar as far as the alliances and such went) was a good way to go.

I had wondered why that scene didn't trigger for the DN with Oghren in the group, but I figured Oghren knew his place with the DN around.  I didn't dwell on it too much as the commoner because Gorim wasn't really treating her any better and didn't care what Oghren was saying to him. My memory is hazy, but didn't the DN have the option of saying, "The Gorim I knew once hated surfacers!" (something like that). 

Yeah, I probably would have kicked Oghren out of the party for that. I liked him, but I liked Gorim better. And I got him exiled but he didn't hate me, which was good of him. And yes, if you say "The Gorim I knew once hatd surfacers" then he responds with "The Gorim you knew was a fool. I've learned far more from them than they have from me." And yet he still runs straight back to Orzammar the second he was allowed.

I always fel worse for him in the Origin than for me because I either killed Trian or couldn't see that Bhelen was obviously evil (a nice, dim-witted high-up noble that hasn't gotten into trouble and is still alive? Please) and my playing politcs was what prompted everything. Besides, I got to be a GW. Gorim...he was kind of left in the lurch and it wasn't his fault what happened.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 04 juin 2010 - 10:30 .

[CalJones]

It took me quite a few playthroughs before I could bring myself to play a dwarf. My female DC didn't make it past Lothering - I liked the origin but I just couldn't feel connected to the character. But eventually I made a male DN and I ended up enjoying him. He had a strong appreciation for the political game and thus decided to forgive Bhelen and side with him in Orzammar, and then sided with Anora for the same reason. It was a fun playthrough. Didn't really go with the romance though.

[Kryyptehk]

Sarah1281 wrote...

He really seemed to be full of regret when you run into him again. I couldn't hold it against him for moving on with his life when destiny had placed my noble on a different path as well.

I just wish he hadn't felt the need to move on quite so quickly. Then again, I suppose that to be fair he was a warrior who knew nothing about being a merchant and even less about being a smith so if he wanted to survive marrying into a powerful surface-merchant family (and Felsi said the Denerim merchant dwarves were just as bad as Orzammar as far as the alliances and such went) was a good way to go.

I had wondered why that scene didn't trigger for the DN with Oghren in the group, but I figured Oghren knew his place with the DN around.  I didn't dwell on it too much as the commoner because Gorim wasn't really treating her any better and didn't care what Oghren was saying to him. My memory is hazy, but didn't the DN have the option of saying, "The Gorim I knew once hated surfacers!" (something like that). 

Yeah, I probably would have kicked Oghren out of the party for that. I liked him, but I liked Gorim better. And I got him exiled but he didn't hate me, which was good of him. And yes, if you say "The Gorim I knew once hatd surfacers" then he responds with "The Gorim you knew was a fool. I've learned far more from them than they have from me." And yet he still runs straight back to Orzammar the second he was allowed.

I always fel worse for him in the Origin than for me because I either killed Trian or couldn't see that Bhelen was obviously evil (a nice, dim-witted high-up noble that hasn't gotten into trouble and is still alive? Please) and my playing politcs was what prompted everything. Besides, I got to be a GW. Gorim...he was kind of left in the lurch and it wasn't his fault what happened.

I know what you mean, and I think I have my DN's future all planned out. I just wish you could go back to Orzammar with Gorim and get married and such. Can you? Or is Gorim not a romance option:P

[sonofalich]

i'm trying to. i made my dwarf all pretty and just now got past the origins story.

[Kryyptehk]

sonofalich wrote...

i'm trying to. i made my dwarf all pretty and just now got past the origins story.

That's how I am, I just got to Ostagar. It'll be a while because I have, like, three characters going at the same time. Two in Ostagar, one in Lothering.

[GodWood]

I have many completed dwarf runs.

My female dwarfs usually romance but my males don't.

(For some reason all the male dwarfs I roleplay just don't like other races)

[Ferelden Templar]

I have a dwarf noble rogue ready and waiting before the Landsmeet. I opted to redo my Human Noble from scratch and enter Awakenings with him first. I was more interested to see how Anora would react to me as her hubby over being a Paragon.



I also have a Dwarf Commoner Warrior (female) in the early stages.



Right now, I might not even continue with both and go with an Elven Warrior Archer first. lol. Maybe because they're both Dual-wielders? I'm not so sure... lol.



I like the Dwarven setting for DAO though. Maybe because they didn't emphasize Dwarves in this expansion as compared to the huge emphasis in the first? I really don't know why... but I'm bored with the dwarves.

[asaiasai]

I am currently for the first time in 12 plays actually doing a dwarf, and i am almost done, working the Landsmeet in Denerim now. My female noble rogue is not even close to the cheerleaders most of my humans and a few of my elves are. I will say it is harder to stay in character for my dwarf, i constantly want to play the nice guy but i do not feel that is approiate for a Noble Dwarf. Especially considering that sometime during the origin story there is a dialog option where you are walking around with Gorim on Oz and i think it is a castless who approaches your character and i responded with the dialog option "Gorim! Why is this talking to me?". So no the little boy in Redcliffe did not get found, Dagna was told to mind her father and get home in so many words, the whole Chantry stuff was treated as more an group delusion, i could not bring myself to defile the ashes though, Carridan was made into gravel and Branka got her anvil, and suprisingly enough role playing this character i somehow wound up enjoying Morrigan's bull****, where as my cheerleaders usually tire of her nonsense in about 2 seconds. My traitorious back stabbing scumbag of a brother DID NOT get to be king, he got to be dead as he deserved, but i was a bit disappointed that i did not get my brother grrrr, sister grrrrr moment but that could be because i made a beline straight for Harromont. I have to say that the Dwarven Noble is good not as good IMHO as the human noble origin but definatly bumps the mage into third place.



As for the rogue class i am dual wield dagger, all the dual wield traits are done and for pure sticky sticky stabby stabby your dead she kicks ass. i have a routine laid out on my spell bar that if i get dirty fighting off the victim does not last long. I am at 40 dex and 40 cunning and i can literally bust that ass, the first poor slob i target gets dirty fighting and a flurry and they are usually dead before the 3rd strike of the flurry. I need 2 more stealth talents and feigh death and the rogue section is filled out. All in all i have a NEW apreciation for the rogue class, i would almost say they are OP but on normal skill at least, i need to make quick dead people or my tank will die and that is bad.



My dwarf is romancing no one, i will allow Morrigan to do her ritual, i still will marry Allister of to Anora (i am an **** that way), i am building this character for Awakenings and since there is no real reason since the romances are completely glossed over in Awakenings, the beter sex scene mod does not do Dwarves, i can not really see the point.



The dwarf noble has been worth the play as i get some diferent perspectives and new dialog options that were not avaliable for the other races. I felt the same OP i started and stopped Sereda several times until i finally said this is it, you can not do another character until you finish Sereda, i just stuck with it and i am glad i did. The very first time you run into a specific dialog option for the dwarf only that was when i got it and had no trouble playing her from that point.



Asai

[Andraste_Reborn]

My dwarf noble (pictured in my current icon) was great fun to play. She slept with Alistair after the Landsmeet because she felt bad about marrying a blushing virgin to Anora, but she was really in unrequited love with Sten. Sure, she'd need a step ladder to kiss him, but as far as she was concerned he was the prefect duty-driven warrior guy :-). And unlike Morrigan, she owns many sets of plate mail ...